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"Scientists Confirm Short Man Syndrome Is Real."

185 replies

SleepDreamThinkHuge · 10/12/2022 14:34

To think this is a strange finding:

www.menshealth.com/uk/health/a42175436/short-man-syndrome/

From my experience, this is not true. I have met many aggressive men short, medium height and very tall. I do not understand why men who are short are more likely to be aggressive it seems like quite a generalisation. By that logic, are short women also more aggressive.

I think "short" is also subjective. A 6 foot man can be seen as short for a 5 foot 10/11 women. A man who is 5 foot 6 is not necessarily short for a 5 foot 1 women. It is relative.

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XanaduKira · 11/12/2022 11:04

Who knows @LuciferRising - maybe scientists will research that next & then there will be evidence to prove / disprove your assertion.

It's not something I've ever experienced thankfully.

WalkingOnTheCracks · 11/12/2022 11:04

Thighlengthboots · 11/12/2022 10:24

So, are you saying that because short men have a hard time in dating, it’s acceptable for them to ask a tall woman out and then spend the entire relationship criticising them and putting them down for being tall?

No. I do not accept that at all. Having a hard time doesn’t give you carte Blanche to treat others like shit. That’s ridiculous. Plenty of people have difficult childhoods/ experiences- doesn’t then make it ok to take that out on others. It might be the reason but it’s not an excuse.

….are you sure you’re replying to the post you quoted? Because there appears to be no connection at all.

MeetPi · 11/12/2022 11:11

MrsSkylerWhite · 11/12/2022 10:58

Seems fairly widespread through the animal kingdom. Obviously there are exceptions but small animals can be very aggressive whilst larger ones are often very gentle.

What an odd comparison to make!

My DH is short - 5 5", and I'm just slightly taller than him. He isn't aggressive in any way and manages to be an executive leading over 1000 others in a male-dominated industry. I think he is concerned more about the perception others might have of him before they are better acquainted with him - like the stereotypes written here.

jicora · 11/12/2022 11:50

Wonder if small man syndrome is like fat woman syndrome. Overweight women full of self loathing constantly asuming anyone who is a healthy weight must have an eating disorder. Walking around with a chip on their shoulders, blaming everyone and everything other than their selves.

Unpleasant. And no I don't think it is a thing.

JaninaDuszejko · 11/12/2022 11:52

It's shite science performed to make money by selling the story to the gutter press who love this kind of thing. There are also studies that show that short men are less aggressive (news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6501633.stm) which frankly make more sense, it's dangerous to be aggressive when you are smaller than your opponent because they are stronger and can do you more harm.

You can also say short men have more stable marriages, live longer and have less chance of cancer and blood clots than tall men but nobody is going on about how tall men are shit husbands.

Itisbetter · 11/12/2022 11:56

What a lot of bollocks

A man who is 5 foot 6 is not necessarily short for a 5 foot 1 women. It is relative.
and what nonsense is this?!!! You are either shorter or taller than the average man, it’s nothing to do with your partner. Dh is average height for his ethnicity which is shorter than the average uk man. I’m tall for a white British female…..aggression isn’t an issue

KimberleyClark · 11/12/2022 11:58

There’s even a study that indicates tall men are more likely to cheat

illicitencounterspress.wordpress.com/2020/10/22/tall-men-are-more-likely-to-cheat/

mitsy5 · 11/12/2022 12:05

Of course not all “short” men are like this. But my DH is 6 ft 5, mild-mannered sort who keeps himself to himself and generally gets on with everyone. But once in a while at work, someone of considerably smaller stature will have an issue with him for no good reason. Or if out in the pub, minding his own business, someone will take offence to his height. We find it comical now really because it’s not like he can disguise it. Again, not saying this is every short man, but this is his experience.

Why is it acceptable to comment on someone’s height when they’re tall but seen as derogatory to call someone short. Had it with my DS when he was at primary - “oh my goodness, he’s so TALL, look at him!” Actually he wasn’t the tallest in has class by a long shot but because his dad is tall, people felt the need to comment. Never heard anyone say to the mum with the smaller son “oh my goodness he’s so SHORT, look at him, just like his dad” 🙄Kids will be what they’ll be, why do people feel the need to comment on their appearance. They can’t change their height either way.

WalkingThroughTreacle · 11/12/2022 12:11

The OP cited a scientific study. If you want to challenge it then feel free but look at things like their method, sample size etc. Challenging a scientific study with personal anecdotes is

LuciferRising · 11/12/2022 12:14

jicora · 11/12/2022 11:50

Wonder if small man syndrome is like fat woman syndrome. Overweight women full of self loathing constantly asuming anyone who is a healthy weight must have an eating disorder. Walking around with a chip on their shoulders, blaming everyone and everything other than their selves.

Unpleasant. And no I don't think it is a thing.

Following the tone of the thread.

It isn't a great study. You can design these to prove many things.

Thighlengthboots · 11/12/2022 12:30

WalkingOnTheCracks · 11/12/2022 11:04

….are you sure you’re replying to the post you quoted? Because there appears to be no connection at all.

I’m referring back to the sentiments expressed that it’s understandable for short men to exhibit negative attitudes and criticism to taller women because they have experienced bad experiences themselves. That’s what I disagree with. Of course it’s awful for anyone to be ridiculed for their height- I don’t think anyone would disagree with that. But it doesn’t then make it ok or understandable for them to make nasty comments towards taller women (something I mentioned previously I had experienced multiple times when dating shorter men). We all have our issues in life, doesn’t make it ok to take it out on others. Those issues may not be our fault but they are our responsibility to deal with and not hurt others as a result.

MyOtherCarIsAHearse · 11/12/2022 12:59

My OH is 5ft 6. I’m an inch or so taller. He’s also bald. And vibe-wise, he’s the sexiest, most masculine guy I’ve come across. He’s not aggressive, but he has an air of confidence about him. And he’s well-versed in numerous martial arts and had easily held his own against men much taller than he is.

SleepDreamThinkHuge · 11/12/2022 13:25

I agree with the posters saying how acceptable it is to mock shorter men in particular. I have heard these quotes being said to people I know who are not tall:

"he is good looking but eww he is short"
"what do you call a man under 6 foot. a friend"
"my future children will be short" (strange that a lot of this comes from women who are short as well)
"short king" (weird statement it is a oxymoron)

I think in 2022 height is one of the characteristics that you cannot control people think it is okay to mock openly. We hear this "be kind" and "body positivity" movement but when it comes to short men people can be openly very unpleasant.

There is a difference between a preference anyone can have a preference for whatever they want. But openly being unpleasant is never right.

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XanaduKira · 11/12/2022 13:52

I do think posting those comments is horrible Op. Why on earth would you post those?

Changechangychange · 11/12/2022 13:56

Never heard anyone say to the mum with the smaller son “oh my goodness he’s so SHORT, look at him, just like his dad” 🙄

Oh they do, I’m afraid. DS is 25th centile (so not even that short) in a class full of very tall boys, and I get comments all the time. Is he ill, is he really 5, why is he so short.

I think we can conclude from this that a lot of other parents are just really fucking rude about other people’s kids.

FloresApparuerunt · 11/12/2022 13:59

I'll ask again, OP: why are you so obsessed with men's height? This is your fifth height-related thread.

What's with that?

SleepDreamThinkHuge · 11/12/2022 14:07

FloresApparuerunt · 11/12/2022 13:59

I'll ask again, OP: why are you so obsessed with men's height? This is your fifth height-related thread.

What's with that?

Because it is probably the most mocked characteristic that people openly mock. And I am calling out these articles that try to assume there is a link between being short and aggression.

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SleepDreamThinkHuge · 11/12/2022 14:09

Changechangychange · 11/12/2022 13:56

Never heard anyone say to the mum with the smaller son “oh my goodness he’s so SHORT, look at him, just like his dad” 🙄

Oh they do, I’m afraid. DS is 25th centile (so not even that short) in a class full of very tall boys, and I get comments all the time. Is he ill, is he really 5, why is he so short.

I think we can conclude from this that a lot of other parents are just really fucking rude about other people’s kids.

Indeed I have heard people gossip and say "at least my kid won't be short like him." The sad thing is that it is not just kids it is a lot of grown ups who we thought would know better.

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FloydPepper · 11/12/2022 14:11

LuciferRising · 11/12/2022 11:01

My DF is very successful. Mid 70s and earns a large wage part time. Had to put more effort in than others, but is very quietly spoken. He stayed away from the pissing competitions, and focused on the tasks.

Wonder if small man syndrome is like fat woman syndrome. Overweight women full of self loathing constantly asuming anyone who is a healthy weight must have an eating disorder. Walking around with a chip on their shoulders, blaming everyone and everything other than their selves.

Light that firework and stand back…

FloresApparuerunt · 11/12/2022 14:12

Because it is probably the most mocked characteristic that people openly mock. And I am calling out these articles that try to assume there is a link between being short and aggression.

Okay... But why on MN?

Often, women prefer taller men as partners. As long as they're not being outright nasty to smaller men - and, indeed, there are women who prefer smaller men - what do you think there is to achieve here? You can't educate someone out of their physical 'type'.

FloydPepper · 11/12/2022 14:14

SleepDreamThinkHuge · 11/12/2022 13:25

I agree with the posters saying how acceptable it is to mock shorter men in particular. I have heard these quotes being said to people I know who are not tall:

"he is good looking but eww he is short"
"what do you call a man under 6 foot. a friend"
"my future children will be short" (strange that a lot of this comes from women who are short as well)
"short king" (weird statement it is a oxymoron)

I think in 2022 height is one of the characteristics that you cannot control people think it is okay to mock openly. We hear this "be kind" and "body positivity" movement but when it comes to short men people can be openly very unpleasant.

There is a difference between a preference anyone can have a preference for whatever they want. But openly being unpleasant is never right.

Had/heard a lot of those. Also add in :

looks like a child
not a real man
people resting their arm on your head as a joke

SleepDreamThinkHuge · 11/12/2022 14:14

FloresApparuerunt · 11/12/2022 14:12

Because it is probably the most mocked characteristic that people openly mock. And I am calling out these articles that try to assume there is a link between being short and aggression.

Okay... But why on MN?

Often, women prefer taller men as partners. As long as they're not being outright nasty to smaller men - and, indeed, there are women who prefer smaller men - what do you think there is to achieve here? You can't educate someone out of their physical 'type'.

Everyone can have a preference whatever that may be. But my issue is with people mocking others by making unpleasant comments and stereotyping a group of people.

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FloresApparuerunt · 11/12/2022 14:23

Everyone can have a preference whatever that may be. But my issue is with people mocking others by making unpleasant comments and stereotyping a group of people.

Okay... But why here? I wouldn't have said that MN was a hotbed of heightist prejudice. So is this part of a more general campaign, or are you here to educate the women of the internet?

FloydPepper · 11/12/2022 14:27

FloresApparuerunt · 11/12/2022 14:23

Everyone can have a preference whatever that may be. But my issue is with people mocking others by making unpleasant comments and stereotyping a group of people.

Okay... But why here? I wouldn't have said that MN was a hotbed of heightist prejudice. So is this part of a more general campaign, or are you here to educate the women of the internet?

Why are you trying to police what another poster can talk about?

OneTC · 11/12/2022 14:34

At my old job I was known as "Little" OneTC despite there being no "Average" OneTC.

I actively enjoy being small, and I'm really small, 5'2". Sometimes it would be nice to reach things but I'd rather have go go gadget arms than be taller

The only thing that article actually says about small MEN is that they score higher for narcissistic traits and everyone is talking itt about aggression. The "study" was done on both sexes and conclusions were drawn about small PEOPLE.

I can definitely detect that I can be manipulative, I don't think I'm a narc and I like other people so don't think I'm a psycho. I think almost everyone is manipulative to a degree though