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DH says I’m an angry person

261 replies

Nickoin · 10/12/2022 06:17

So, every morning I wake up with the kids as he apparently cannot get up. He was our last night and DS (2) was up and down as he isn’t very well, I have been up since 4:30 whilst he sleeps as he didn’t get in until 1:30. He will probably be our all night tonight too as England is on, he says I am jealous because I am not him. If I just lay in bed too who will give the kids their breakfast etc? I feel like I am the one who does everything but maybe I am not, I don’t know, maybe I just don’t like him anymore?

OP posts:
KettrickenSmiled · 11/12/2022 13:49

JadeM90 · 11/12/2022 13:41

Hi, couple of things, you said he says you're angry, yet this post is nothing to do with anger? You wrote this at 6am and said he got in at 1.30...is this the reason you was 'angry' I think we would all be a tad irked if you were woken up 'angrily' after being out and not having much sleep. Do you never go out? What happens then I assume he is taking care of them? I dont understand the points raised and suspect its deeper than this one incident. How often does he go out,is it consistent. Perhaps chat about that, who can blame him for going out to watch England in the world cup also. Everyone commenting get rid based off this one post needs to give their heads a wobble because this isnt even bad. Like i said I'm sure you go out? I think you're after a reason any reason to justify your own actions whatever they may have been how 'angry' were you? You were up and sleep deprived yourself and just wanted him to be in the same boat is my opinion. Talk if you have an issue Talk, this isnt bad! Questioning your like for him anyway speaks volumes for me.

Give your own head a wobble, & once you've done that, try RTFT @JadeM90

Isn't that bad my arse.
It's not about the world cup FFS, & you'd understand the points raised if you'd bothered to read them.

Also - OP has already answered all your questions. Don't you dare pop up to tell her she's trying to justify herself or it's her own fault for not liking this man.
She's done nothing that needs justifying, & it's not uncommon - or a crime - to dislike people who abuse us. Coercive control, however IS a crime - one punishable by up to 5 years jailtime. Maybe have a little think on that before indulging yourself in your patronising & malicious victim blaming.

Pussycatpaws · 11/12/2022 13:54

YABU for choosing to settle down with this waste of space and have children with him

DarceyG · 11/12/2022 13:59

JadeM90 · 11/12/2022 13:41

Hi, couple of things, you said he says you're angry, yet this post is nothing to do with anger? You wrote this at 6am and said he got in at 1.30...is this the reason you was 'angry' I think we would all be a tad irked if you were woken up 'angrily' after being out and not having much sleep. Do you never go out? What happens then I assume he is taking care of them? I dont understand the points raised and suspect its deeper than this one incident. How often does he go out,is it consistent. Perhaps chat about that, who can blame him for going out to watch England in the world cup also. Everyone commenting get rid based off this one post needs to give their heads a wobble because this isnt even bad. Like i said I'm sure you go out? I think you're after a reason any reason to justify your own actions whatever they may have been how 'angry' were you? You were up and sleep deprived yourself and just wanted him to be in the same boat is my opinion. Talk if you have an issue Talk, this isnt bad! Questioning your like for him anyway speaks volumes for me.

Idiot

DarceyG · 11/12/2022 14:04

Pussycatpaws · 11/12/2022 13:54

YABU for choosing to settle down with this waste of space and have children with him

No compassion eh? I pity you. Spineless shit hiding behind your phone trying to make people feel worse.

KettrickenSmiled · 11/12/2022 14:11

Pussycatpaws · 11/12/2022 13:54

YABU for choosing to settle down with this waste of space and have children with him

YABU for having zero comprehension about the mechanics of DA & how it manifests, & choosing to deploy that ignorance to bully an already distraught OP with.

DarceyG · 11/12/2022 14:12

KettrickenSmiled · 11/12/2022 14:11

YABU for having zero comprehension about the mechanics of DA & how it manifests, & choosing to deploy that ignorance to bully an already distraught OP with.

Absolute scumbags walks this earth. Ignorant fools. Hardfaced vicious people.

KettrickenSmiled · 11/12/2022 14:15

@Pussycatpaws your user name reminded me of someone, then your nasty comment confirmed it.

How are you getting your messages smuggled out of Azkaban?

DH says I’m an angry person
KettrickenSmiled · 11/12/2022 14:17

DarceyG · 11/12/2022 14:12

Absolute scumbags walks this earth. Ignorant fools. Hardfaced vicious people.

Oh, I dunno @DarceyG

I can pretty much guarantee they'd pipe the fuck down in person.
It's cowardice, hiding behind a screen, & a fearful need to convince themselves that THEY would never be a DA victim.
Eejits.

Tigofigo · 11/12/2022 14:20

He's a shit dad and selfish

He's horrible to you

The stress is affecting you badly

All of this WILL be affecting your DC

Orangepolentacake · 11/12/2022 14:21

DarceyG · 11/12/2022 13:59

Idiot

👍🏻

TheyreOnlyNoodlesMichael · 11/12/2022 14:21

Claireintheclouds · 10/12/2022 10:37

YABU for having such a low bar you put up with this shit

honestly, reading these posts makes me so determined to make sure my DDs never end up like some of you.

I agree. It's the children I feel sorry for. Clearly OP is going to waste her life on this shit man and that's her choice but the poor children have zero choice.

Orangepolentacake · 11/12/2022 14:22

KettrickenSmiled · 11/12/2022 14:15

@Pussycatpaws your user name reminded me of someone, then your nasty comment confirmed it.

How are you getting your messages smuggled out of Azkaban?

😂😂

JadeM90 · 11/12/2022 14:24

DarceyG · 11/12/2022 13:59

Idiot

@DarceyG how am I being an idiot. My opinion is valid just as yours is. But I'm certainly not an idiot, just stripped back the original points and tried to unearth the whole picture. Theres obvious relationship problems here but not waking up at 6am is what I was suggesting isnt that bad. And I would like to know, curious to know what happens when you go out, assuming you do so.

DarceyG · 11/12/2022 14:27

KettrickenSmiled · 11/12/2022 14:17

Oh, I dunno @DarceyG

I can pretty much guarantee they'd pipe the fuck down in person.
It's cowardice, hiding behind a screen, & a fearful need to convince themselves that THEY would never be a DA victim.
Eejits.

I saw the contempt first hand from certain people when I just got out of it. The looks of disdain like it’s your own fault. Education is desperately needed for these men and women and urgently before their own children grow up to as absolutely fucking clueless as they are.

DarceyG · 11/12/2022 14:29

JadeM90 · 11/12/2022 14:24

@DarceyG how am I being an idiot. My opinion is valid just as yours is. But I'm certainly not an idiot, just stripped back the original points and tried to unearth the whole picture. Theres obvious relationship problems here but not waking up at 6am is what I was suggesting isnt that bad. And I would like to know, curious to know what happens when you go out, assuming you do so.

You either haven’t read any of it properly or you’re an extremely shallow person. That’s why I call you an idiot.

JadeM90 · 11/12/2022 14:33

DarceyG · 11/12/2022 14:29

You either haven’t read any of it properly or you’re an extremely shallow person. That’s why I call you an idiot.

@DarceyG My reply was from the original post. I haven't read through the whole thread

been and done it. · 11/12/2022 14:35

I had a husband like this..Friday night out with mates. Saturday lunchtime drinking then played football out again in the evening till late. Sunday lunchtime got up about 11am pub and drinking till 3pm.
Tuesday and Thursday football training. Wednesday snooker with his dad till late.
Somewhere in that lot shagging NDN's DC.
That's why he became an ex.

KettrickenSmiled · 11/12/2022 14:38

I saw the contempt first hand from certain people when I just got out of it. The looks of disdain like it’s your own fault. Education is desperately needed for these men and women and urgently before their own children grow up to as absolutely fucking clueless as they are.

Sure.
And with comments such as "I won't let this happen to me or my DD's because ... Reasons" (aka I Am A Superior Type Of Person, Immune to Coercive Control), you can be sure of the upcoming inter-generational cluelessness,

DarceyG · 11/12/2022 14:41

JadeM90 · 11/12/2022 14:33

@DarceyG My reply was from the original post. I haven't read through the whole thread

Don’t comment then because you just make yourself out to be an idiot. Read the whole thing

DarceyG · 11/12/2022 14:43

KettrickenSmiled · 11/12/2022 14:38

I saw the contempt first hand from certain people when I just got out of it. The looks of disdain like it’s your own fault. Education is desperately needed for these men and women and urgently before their own children grow up to as absolutely fucking clueless as they are.

Sure.
And with comments such as "I won't let this happen to me or my DD's because ... Reasons" (aka I Am A Superior Type Of Person, Immune to Coercive Control), you can be sure of the upcoming inter-generational cluelessness,

I totally agree and it really makes my blood boil. You have to get through the hardest most painful time of your life with very little support due to dumb people and their complete lack of insight.

Bronnau · 11/12/2022 14:44

Hope you're okay OP. This is not a healthy situation- I wouldn't be in a relationship with someone who was so unkind and selfish, but TBH, I equally wouldn't be with someone who elbowed walls until there were holes in them. Of course you were frustrated and angry, but I think that this situation isn't at all healthy.

Nickoin · 11/12/2022 14:54

Yes I feel terrible about the wall thing, I should not have done that, I’m Upset that I let him get to me, I can’t change it anyway now 😢

I came home earlier and he asked if I wanted a cuddle…I literally haven’t stopped crying all day the last thing I want is a cuddle. It’s literally baffling me.

OP posts:
KettrickenSmiled · 11/12/2022 15:14

Yes I feel terrible about the wall thing, I should not have done that, I’m Upset that I let him get to me, I can’t change it anyway now 😢
diversity.social/reactive-abuse/
Not that self-harm (your poor elbow) due to extremity of supressed emotion qualifies as abuse, but ...
... the pattern of him goading you until you react like this, or cry, or shout, is a recognised part of coercively controlling relationships.

but TBH, I equally wouldn't be with someone who elbowed walls until there were holes in them.
@Bronnau - Please don't write about OP as if this wall-elbowing incident is a common occurrence, & see the link above? OP is not the abusive party here.

I came home earlier and he asked if I wanted a cuddle…I literally haven’t stopped crying all day the last thing I want is a cuddle. It’s literally baffling me.
The cycle of abuse goes Idealise / Devalue /Discard
He devalued you all day, until you reacted, & left the house - he got exactly what he wanted (selfish alone time) & felt you had suffered enough Discard. He's now back in Idealise - even though what he's doing is Idealising in an attempt to present himself as the ideal party. The 'loving' H who is ... offering a cuddle!
Like that makes up for his previous abuse.

When you feel able to, look back over the years & observe how this pattern played out.
At the start of the relationship, the cycle of abuse is prolonged. It can take months or even years to play out. This long initial Idealise period is taken for the famed 'honeymoon period' & of course the soon-to-be-abused party mistakes it for reality. What is really happening is that you are being Love Bombed. & that never lasts.
Soon enough comes the Devalue/Discard phase.
The abused party is now on tenterhooks, walking on eggshells trying to appease her abuser & look for ways to bring back the 'nice' b/f he used to be - to in effect kickstart the Idealise phase again.
The cycle inevitably speeds up, he often ramps up the content & viciousness of his abuse to counter her increasing numbness to it. Before she knows where she is, he's capable of enacting the entire Idealise/Devalue/Discard cycle on her in a single day.

This is why you feel baffled OP.
You are in a constant state of cognitive dissonance due to the cycle of abuse.
You can't believe he'd behave like this, yet he does. You do your darndest to communicate with him, yet he shuts you down. You do everything for the family while he does nothing - yet YOU are the one painted as the villain.
It's a headfuck.
That is what gaslighting is.

Nickoin · 11/12/2022 15:35

taking my anger out on a wall was in excusable but I just cannot bring myself to raise my voice in-front of the kids, I was so angry as soon as I did I just burst into tears, I was desperate for his help, I had clients on the phone and was really worked up. It will never ever happen again and I feel absolutely terrible.

OP posts:
Nickoin · 11/12/2022 15:40

For a previous poster that asked how frequently does he go put, he plays sport 3 times a week and out at least one weekend a month, he goes on holiday whenever he wants etc. it’s not about the going out tbf, he knew I had work and things could have been arranged, plus he was put the night before whilst I was up all night again and he couldn’t get up yesterday morning either. He has started saying well I may as well be that person you think I am so I am not getting up, even though he never does anyway.

he never puts the washer on, loads the dishwasher or makes dinner. I make sure they have everything for schools/nursery etc and buy all their clothes, I am literally dead in my feet today I can’t wait to just go to sleep tonight.

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