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SuperSuperCold · 2022-12-07T20:05:48+00:00

Just getting a bit pissed off with hypocritical people lately and turn on twitter to find it full of harry and Megan, which got me directing my annoyance at hypocrites to Harry. I did used to love the guy, and no hate from me here, but what I can't understand is: 1. The boy (man?) hates the press apparently, yet is in the media every second of his own choosing 2. He didn't want the press to use Diana for media gains and money making. Now his new netflix documentary appears to be going to do just that, judging by the trailor (which has already exploited Diana for clicks without the documentary even being out yet) 3. The man professes the royal family are all racist, but HE is the one who wore a nazi uniform, black faced himself, and has used racial slurs to many. (I don't think any of the other royals have gone so far as to dress up as a Nazi have they?) Sorry for doing another Harry and megs thread, but the hypocrisy has really got to me today for some reason! (maybe PMT!) If you r fed up with Harry threads, feel to coment on what other people you know have done hypocritical things that drive your nuts!! No need to mention Harry or Megan!

ittakes2 · 07/12/2022 23:18

I like to think of him as Harry the Hypocrite - I think it’s rather catchy.

AloysiaW · 07/12/2022 23:18

Pandor · 07/12/2022 23:12

Has anyone ever laid out the precise rules as to when you are, and aren’t allowed to dress up as a Nazi without that demonstrating that you are in fact terribly racist?

Ralph Feinnes put in an incredible performance as Amon Goeth in Schindler’s List, but presumably that didn’t make him a racist as it was a very serious film.

The whole Mel Brooks “Springtime for Hitler” routine in the Producers was done for laughs, but presumably isn’t evidence of appalling racism either?

I used to watch a lot of Allo Allo as a child and don’t ever remember Richard Gibson being hounded by accusations of racism for his portrayal of Herr Flick of the gestapo, but perhaps I missed it.

In fact, I suspect there are literally countless examples of people dressing as Nazis over the years that have gone utterly unremarked upon.

it’s almost as if the motivation behind someone dressing up as a Nazi, whether that it is to make a serious point, to make people laugh, or to showcase their love and support of Far Right political views, is actually really important.

You could almost say that whilst a young prince dressing up as a Nazi amongst friends in the context of a fancy dress night is clearly naive, it doesn’t “necessarily” demonstrate an actual love of nazis or reveal any deep seated racism.

But no…much simpler to just call him a racist.

Maybe he just thought nazis were fun?

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 07/12/2022 23:19

doorheckk · 07/12/2022 22:22

Kate is elegant and still mysterious even after all these years and channels Diana with her shy but determined influence.

Kate is mysterious because even in 2022 she has to toe the line and not have a voice or a opinion, it's so regressive that society expects this!

Diana whether you were a fan or not had huge amounts of charisma & a big presence. Kate doesn't have that, very few people do.

But even Diana didn’t express a political opinion. Neither did the Queen - who also wasn’t charismatic. Boring and quiet is the way the RF have to be as an unelected constitutional monarchy. If they start to express opinions of show any political sway that entirely compromise their integrity

Lapland123 · 07/12/2022 23:20

Another who hoped for Harry Styles when opening this … sigh….

GoingtotheWinchester · 07/12/2022 23:21

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HotChoxs · 07/12/2022 23:22

BonnesVacances · 07/12/2022 21:41

www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-harry-idUSTRE5092E720090111

*“Prince Harry fully understands how offensive this term (Paki) can be, and is extremely sorry for any offence his words might cause,” the spokesman said.

“However, on this occasion three years ago, Prince Harry used the term without any malice and as a nickname about a highly popular member of his platoon.
“There is no question that Prince Harry was in any way seeking to insult his friend.”*
Obviously it's up to the man himself to decide if he found it offensive or not, but it was his nickname in the army and Harry was following suit.

Yes of course it had no malice behind it because asian people just love being called the P word by a white prince, a real bonding ritual that one.

Imagine, if he was caught on camera using it how many times he used it off camera.

I wonder what the victims of his marginalisation make of him profiting from anti-racism now?

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 07/12/2022 23:23

you surely are not suggesting that the press is never completely impartial in the way they report on things?

I have no idea how you took that from my posts. At all. I’m saying they report on news they can prove and the palace saying “please don’t publish that” will have naff all effect because the palace don’t have that power.

Maybe William has done all sorts of awful things like dressed in a racist costume or played strip poker. The difference is unlike his brother he seems to have never got caught. The press won’t report on rumours or hearsay re the RF, but if Harry is stupid enough to wear a Nazi costume or prat about naked in a Vegas hotel room then of course the press are going to publish it. And I imagine the palace press office tried to stop the story, as they no doubt have on many stories, but they don’t have the power.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 07/12/2022 23:26

BonnesVacances · 07/12/2022 22:34

@stuntbubbles There's a PhD right there! The speed it goes from made up bullshit to fact is more than fascinating.

Everyone is making obtuse comments about “OMG fascinating how stuff is made up!”. But the only made up thing I can see on this thread isn’t about H&M. It’s that apparently William also dressed in a Nazi outfit.

BabyOnBoard90 · 07/12/2022 23:26

Best not to be overly invested in the lives of celebrities oblivious to your existence.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 07/12/2022 23:27

doorheckk · 07/12/2022 22:34

Why are they allowed to use the media to their advantage

Because they can do what they want, they don't need to care what you think, why would they?

Yes they can do what they want but it does make them hypocrites. “We want media attention to tell our story [that has lies in it] but any media outlet reporting anything else at all on us but what they tell us are bullies and dangerous”

doorheckk · 07/12/2022 23:29

@LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet do you think they are unusual in the world of celebs & royals by being hypocrites?

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 07/12/2022 23:29

beAsensible1 · 07/12/2022 22:38

i'm not sure how they expect these guys to make money? they told hem to piss off, they did! told them to pay up, they did! what more do they want? What does a prince do once he isn't funded by royalty??

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Plenty of normal people without palaces and millions in the bank find new careers when their career becomes redundant. I had a BF once who’s dad was a TV repairman by trade who had to retrain when the work dried up due to advanced technology and cheap TV sets becoming available. Let’s not pretend Harry’s only option was to slag his family off in exchange for cash

beAsensible1 · 07/12/2022 23:31

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 07/12/2022 23:29

Plenty of normal people without palaces and millions in the bank find new careers when their career becomes redundant. I had a BF once who’s dad was a TV repairman by trade who had to retrain when the work dried up due to advanced technology and cheap TV sets becoming available. Let’s not pretend Harry’s only option was to slag his family off in exchange for cash

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Nicest slagging off i've ever heard

853ax · 07/12/2022 23:32

Think the reason don't see as much negative press for W&K is because they don't talk to press give stories or fuel for fire. They shake hands, nod, smile, plant trees....
For H&M Books, press releases, galas, documentaries ... Their job these days is creating content. This content cause discussion, opinions ECT which can lead to negative press.
I cannot understand why they did not have a lovely quiet life in California sunshine as they have so much money could live well.
Beginning to think he has spoilt attitude if I can't have crown no one else will get it.
In reality he got better deal by being able to disappear into sunset if he wanted to.

doorheckk · 07/12/2022 23:32

But even Diana didn’t express a political opinion.

Err she expressed plenty of opinions, why would you narrow it down to political?

"Boring and quiet is the way the RF have to be as an unelected constitutional monarchy. If they start to express opinions of show any political sway that entirely compromise their integrity"

Do you not think Andy's millions & friends compromised integrity? Or Charles bag of cash?

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 07/12/2022 23:33

Pandor · 07/12/2022 23:12

Has anyone ever laid out the precise rules as to when you are, and aren’t allowed to dress up as a Nazi without that demonstrating that you are in fact terribly racist?

Ralph Feinnes put in an incredible performance as Amon Goeth in Schindler’s List, but presumably that didn’t make him a racist as it was a very serious film.

The whole Mel Brooks “Springtime for Hitler” routine in the Producers was done for laughs, but presumably isn’t evidence of appalling racism either?

I used to watch a lot of Allo Allo as a child and don’t ever remember Richard Gibson being hounded by accusations of racism for his portrayal of Herr Flick of the gestapo, but perhaps I missed it.

In fact, I suspect there are literally countless examples of people dressing as Nazis over the years that have gone utterly unremarked upon.

it’s almost as if the motivation behind someone dressing up as a Nazi, whether that it is to make a serious point, to make people laugh, or to showcase their love and support of Far Right political views, is actually really important.

You could almost say that whilst a young prince dressing up as a Nazi amongst friends in the context of a fancy dress night is clearly naive, it doesn’t “necessarily” demonstrate an actual love of nazis or reveal any deep seated racism.

But no…much simpler to just call him a racist.

What a ridiculous and embarrassing post.

Harry did it for fun and presumably he thought it was acceptable.

Thats not the same as portraying a real life person in a movie that documented the cruelty of the Nazi party.

Thats like saying all the white actors in Crash are racist or that anyone playing a rapist in a movie is the same as being one in real life.

Intent is everything. Harry’s intent was not to raise awareness or document through film the effects of the Nazis on Jewish people. It was because him and his Sloane Square mates think they ca do whatever the fuck they want, that they can take the piss out of whoever they want because the consequences will always, always be minimal

doorheckk · 07/12/2022 23:34

@LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet please explain to me. Why do you think you have a right to decide how a stranger makes their money? I just don't understand why you think your opinion is relevant to them?

HotChoxs · 07/12/2022 23:35

Pandor · 07/12/2022 23:12

Has anyone ever laid out the precise rules as to when you are, and aren’t allowed to dress up as a Nazi without that demonstrating that you are in fact terribly racist?

Ralph Feinnes put in an incredible performance as Amon Goeth in Schindler’s List, but presumably that didn’t make him a racist as it was a very serious film.

The whole Mel Brooks “Springtime for Hitler” routine in the Producers was done for laughs, but presumably isn’t evidence of appalling racism either?

I used to watch a lot of Allo Allo as a child and don’t ever remember Richard Gibson being hounded by accusations of racism for his portrayal of Herr Flick of the gestapo, but perhaps I missed it.

In fact, I suspect there are literally countless examples of people dressing as Nazis over the years that have gone utterly unremarked upon.

it’s almost as if the motivation behind someone dressing up as a Nazi, whether that it is to make a serious point, to make people laugh, or to showcase their love and support of Far Right political views, is actually really important.

You could almost say that whilst a young prince dressing up as a Nazi amongst friends in the context of a fancy dress night is clearly naive, it doesn’t “necessarily” demonstrate an actual love of nazis or reveal any deep seated racism.

But no…much simpler to just call him a racist.

Harry would disagree with your post.

Educate yourself.

doorheckk · 07/12/2022 23:36

@AloysiaW which is fine but why then say you don't want to hear from them?

doorheckk · 07/12/2022 23:38

If you're a fan just own it & be proud! 😜

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 07/12/2022 23:38

doorheckk · 07/12/2022 23:29

@LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet do you think they are unusual in the world of celebs & royals by being hypocrites?

They’re not the only hypocrites no - but they’re certainly the most prominent ones at the moment. And I cannot believe anyone would argue otherwise. To declare you want to be financially independent and then 5 minutes later moan that daddy cut you off - example 1. Being the Head of Heads Together MH charity and then express you were ashamed that your wife was experiencing perinatal depression - example 2. Slagging off to the hilt a whole institution and then expressing so called love to the very woman who upholds and reigns over that institution (because slagging off the Queen herself would have been the worst thing they could have done for themselves) - example 3.

I could go on but CBA.

Other hypocrites existing in Hollywood doesn’t minimise what H&M/RF do. And I’d happily talk about them but this thread is about H&M.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 07/12/2022 23:39

beAsensible1 · 07/12/2022 23:31

Nicest slagging off i've ever heard

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You think criticising daddy for not giving you more money is ‘nice’? Or lies told about your childhood?

doorheckk · 07/12/2022 23:40

I think they are hypocrites but again it's completely normal for celebs & royals to be hypocrites so it just doesn't trigger me. And I don't think being a hypocrite is the worst thing in the world.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 07/12/2022 23:40

doorheckk · 07/12/2022 23:32

But even Diana didn’t express a political opinion.

Err she expressed plenty of opinions, why would you narrow it down to political?

"Boring and quiet is the way the RF have to be as an unelected constitutional monarchy. If they start to express opinions of show any political sway that entirely compromise their integrity"

Do you not think Andy's millions & friends compromised integrity? Or Charles bag of cash?

OK then it will compromise their existence - people like having a RF as long as they don’t meddle in politics or start to get whiffs of having political power

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 07/12/2022 23:42

doorheckk · 07/12/2022 23:34

@LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet please explain to me. Why do you think you have a right to decide how a stranger makes their money? I just don't understand why you think your opinion is relevant to them?

I’m not sure I said I had a right to decide? They don’t know me so they didn’t consult me before deciding what to do. But my opinion is it’s a shitty way to make money - it’s as relevant or irrelevant as the next person’s. This is not a thread about feeding a family a chicken for a week or what to get from Aldi - this is a thread about M&H and I have no obligation to only have favourable opinions about them. This isn’t Nethuns.