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Sorry it's a harry one

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SuperSuperCold · 07/12/2022 20:05

Just getting a bit pissed off with hypocritical people lately and turn on twitter to find it full of harry and Megan, which got me directing my annoyance at hypocrites to Harry.

I did used to love the guy, and no hate from me here, but what I can't understand is:

  1. The boy (man?) hates the press apparently, yet is in the media every second of his own choosing
  1. He didn't want the press to use Diana for media gains and money making. Now his new netflix documentary appears to be going to do just that, judging by the trailor (which has already exploited Diana for clicks without the documentary even being out yet)
  1. The man professes the royal family are all racist, but HE is the one who wore a nazi uniform, black faced himself, and has used racial slurs to many. (I don't think any of the other royals have gone so far as to dress up as a Nazi have they?)

Sorry for doing another Harry and megs thread, but the hypocrisy has really got to me today for some reason! (maybe PMT!)

If you r fed up with Harry threads, feel to coment on what other people you know have done hypocritical things that drive your nuts!! No need to mention Harry or Megan!

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InSummertime · 07/12/2022 20:56

Iwritethissittinginthekitchensink · 07/12/2022 20:51

2. He didn't want the press to use Diana for media gains and money making. Now his new netflix documentary appears to be going to do just that, judging by the trailor (which has already exploited Diana for clicks without the documentary even being out yet)

I don’t understand why people can’t understand that things change.

I’m sure the media coverage, Oprah interview etc came after the royal family cut H&M off?

Don’t they have a huge security bill to protect themselves and small children, so they need a decent income too fund that? So of course they’re going to do that in whatever way they can?

I’m sure I read somewhere that they’re seen as the poor neighbours in Montecito - tiniest house on the street.

This was a lie - as proven in the records. He had 30 million from Diana and never paid a penny for accommodation, clothes, food anything all paid for. That’s just Diana’s inheritance never mind the grandparents etc are you seriously defending him because he said he wasn’t a working royal but wanted to be fully funded by the U.K. taxpayer?

PicturesOfDogs · 07/12/2022 20:57

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When was Meghan ever ‘hounded’ by them though? Diana most certainly was. As was Kate.

As in chased down the street, flashes everywhere, hiding her face etc.

Never happened.

Iwritethissittinginthekitchensink · 07/12/2022 20:58

abcdefghijkml · 07/12/2022 20:52

I’m sure I read somewhere that they’re seen as the poor neighbours in Montecito - tiniest house on the street.

If it bothers them, they can move

I’m not sure they can afford to!

I don’t like the way they’ve gone about things at all (they should have aired their business in the privacy of therapy), but I can sort of see their side - that they need a decent income to pay for the security that comes with being as high profile as H was born into, which wasn’t his fault or choosing.

lookluv · 07/12/2022 20:58

He is jealous of his brother and wants to be King - lashing out like a spoilt toddler having a tantrum.
Every family has a hierarchy - this one is just more pronounced.

His mother was not hounded because she was going out with someone not white - she went out with the heart surgeon without too many issues for some years. What you can not do is court the media one minute and then turn them off when you feel like it.

Am sick of both of them to be honest

Shannny · 07/12/2022 20:59

LakieLady · 07/12/2022 20:29

I'm a republican and think the monarchy should have ended when the queen died, so anything that exposes them to ridicule or undermines their credibility is fine by me.

The sooner we get rid of the whole archaic institution the better, and M&H are certainly doing a grand job of showing what an uptight bunch of dinosaurs they are.

This! I don’t care about any of them but I’m enjoying watching the who farce of “royalty” slowly collapse. If Harry and Meghan are trying to bring down the royal family then I’m firmly on their side.

Time they all got jobs and learn to live in the real world.

InSummertime · 07/12/2022 21:00

www.vanityfair.com/style/2021/06/prince-charles-prince-harry-money
Poor Harry was only getting about £2.5 million from dad that year (don’t forget everything is paid for) and Tyler Perry provided a free home and security …..

and we are supposed to think of him as poor homeless and on the street

Iwritethissittinginthekitchensink · 07/12/2022 21:01

are you seriously defending him because he said he wasn’t a working royal but wanted to be fully funded by the U.K. taxpayer?

No, not defending him - just saying I can sort of understand where they’re coming from (that’s different from saying I agree with their actions or the outcome or that they should be fully funded by the tax payer).

Did they ask to be fully funded? I thought the issue was the funding of security?

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 07/12/2022 21:02

He’s a massive hypocrite. I suspect he’s always been this way and palace aides managed to stifle his hypocrisy but then he met another hypocrite and could no longer hide it.

I was ready to give him the benefit of the doubt. Until he, a man of almost 40, sat in a LA mansion in a designer suit, a millionaire in his own right (but none earned himself) and moaned about daddy cutting him off. In a time where food bank use is sky high and many people will freeze to death by not being able to afford to put the heating on, it was spectacularly tone deaf. I’d love to ask him if he thought this made him relatable

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 07/12/2022 21:04

Shannny · 07/12/2022 20:59

This! I don’t care about any of them but I’m enjoying watching the who farce of “royalty” slowly collapse. If Harry and Meghan are trying to bring down the royal family then I’m firmly on their side.

Time they all got jobs and learn to live in the real world.

Oh please. Diana had a MUCH bigger impact in a really precarious decade for the RF. she was the closest it ever came to ruining the RF and she had loads of support. These two idiots couldn’t bring down a balloon if they tried

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 07/12/2022 21:05

lookluv · 07/12/2022 20:58

He is jealous of his brother and wants to be King - lashing out like a spoilt toddler having a tantrum.
Every family has a hierarchy - this one is just more pronounced.

His mother was not hounded because she was going out with someone not white - she went out with the heart surgeon without too many issues for some years. What you can not do is court the media one minute and then turn them off when you feel like it.

Am sick of both of them to be honest

Yes exactly. And she was only with Dodi for a few weeks before they both died. The press attention (which she absolutely courted when it suited her) began long before that

Shannny · 07/12/2022 21:05

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 07/12/2022 21:04

Oh please. Diana had a MUCH bigger impact in a really precarious decade for the RF. she was the closest it ever came to ruining the RF and she had loads of support. These two idiots couldn’t bring down a balloon if they tried

The queen had more support than Diana. That’s the difference this time.

MushMonster · 07/12/2022 21:07

These two said ages ago that they wanted to back off public life, so? Why on earth are they all over netflix? And worst... the news? Almost daily this week.
I used to be indiferent, now I am fed up.
Anythingvand everything for money! It is pathetic!

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 07/12/2022 21:07

Georgeskitchen · 07/12/2022 20:42

Camilla and Kate were also hounded by the media but they managed to rise above it.

Indeed. Some of us are old enough to remember the nasty comments about her appearance that were never ending in the 90’s. She put the work and and hugely turned it around, I believe she is now one of the most popular Royals.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 07/12/2022 21:09

BiscuitLover3678 · 07/12/2022 20:44

Not to the same degree. They’re actually very well protected. There was also racism involved which no one can pretend didn’t happen. I mean hey, no one can say they’re perfect. But I can also see why they went crazy from it. Most of us on here wouldn’t cope.

They definitely weren’t protected. At all. They had no right to be protected until they were engaged, and their men kept them waiting (but for good reasons).

Meghan seems to be making it about race but honestly it’s sexism all women entering the RF experience. I’m surprised people forgot that Catherine was public enemy No 1 for aaaaages. Nasty names, criticisms about her weight, her breasts, her family etc.

Sparklybanana · 07/12/2022 21:11

They are so obliviously hypocrital in all areas of their life that its painful (for us).
Harry is a anti racist, environmental hero who stood up to his awful family and protected his wife from awful press intrusion into their lives.
That's how they want the world to see them.

Except, Harry has been caught being racist more than the rest of the royals, they fly privately more than the average person each time affecting the health of the environment, when Harry first met Meghan, he cheerfully said that she finally had a family at Christmas time - he obviously didn't think badly of them then and there are loads of photos showing him having fun with Kate (more so I dare say than with his wife, where he always looms glum). Worst of all, is this having to leave to get privacy and yetthe whole world have been subjected to them and their opinions much more so now. We practically know what Harry's favourite pant designer is.

So yanbu. It took me a long time to stop supporting meghan as I thought she'd be a great addition to the Royal family - smart, confident, pretty but I just can't take the pepetual victimhood, self pity, faux pious hypocrisy that drips from them. I've had overload. Kate is elegant and still mysterious even after all these years and channels Diana with her shy but determined influence. H and m , in comparison, are like drunk elephants covered in badly applied makeup, wearing poorly fitted dresses declaring 'it's designnnner darlink!' beofre breaking everything in the room.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 07/12/2022 21:13

Meanwhile, Meghan's pulled a People's Choice award for her podcast series and they've both scooped one for standing up to the Windsors' (well-documented) institutional racism

Ooooh a People’s Choice award! How Illustrious and imitating. I bet the members of one of the world’s oldest, richest and most popular institutions are absolutely bricking it. A huge threat indeed! I’m sure the downfall of the Romanov’s started with a People’s Choice award.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 07/12/2022 21:14

abcdefghijkml · 07/12/2022 20:52

I’m sure I read somewhere that they’re seen as the poor neighbours in Montecito - tiniest house on the street.

If it bothers them, they can move

🎻

Poor H&M and their tiny tiny house

stuntbubbles · 07/12/2022 21:16

MushMonster · 07/12/2022 21:07

These two said ages ago that they wanted to back off public life, so? Why on earth are they all over netflix? And worst... the news? Almost daily this week.
I used to be indiferent, now I am fed up.
Anythingvand everything for money! It is pathetic!

They never said that. They said they wanted to pursue financial independence, and not be full-time working royals. The royal family wouldn’t let them do half-in, half-out, and now here we are. But they never wanted to remove themselves from public life – and it would be fairly odd for an actress to want to do so, so I don’t know why people have bought into this narrative planted by Kensington Palace.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 07/12/2022 21:16

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Of course it’s the same!! They’re utilising the media for their own gains and are happy and willing to do so, but about “abuse!!” When it’s not on their terms. The media is not a one way street - they don’t sit and wait for celebrities to come to them with big interviews.

Im also not convinced about the paparazzi houndings - Netflix couldn’t even find any footage to use in a 0.5 second clip they had to steal other people’s.

Atethehalloweenchocs · 07/12/2022 21:20

3. The man professes thefamily are all racist, but HE is the one who wore a nazi uniform, black faced himself, and has used racial slurs to many. (I don't think any of the other royals have gone so far as to dress up as a Nazi have they?)

People do things when they are young which are stupid - they can learn better as they get older which he appears to have done. Haven't heard about him using racist slurs. But did read that one of the things that pissed Harry off is that a lot of the things that he got pilloried for (the nazi uniform) William did too. But the heir could not be called out on that publicly, so Harry took the fall for both of them.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 07/12/2022 21:20

Shannny · 07/12/2022 21:05

The queen had more support than Diana. That’s the difference this time.

You think more people support H&M than they do the Queen? Even though polls have shown a steady drop in support for the Sussexes.

And I disagree that the Queen supported Diana when she went on TV and claimed there were “3 of us in this marriage” (yeah Di and the rest, what about all the married men you were shagging). She supported her institution. Why do you think she supported Diana?

Iflyaway · 07/12/2022 21:21

The usual Harry and Megan bashing on here. Yawn.

HaveYouSeenNancy · 07/12/2022 21:21

If Meghan was hounded by the press, why is the footage in the Netflix trailer of the press hounding Diana and Catherine, and of the Harry Potter 2011 premier? Diana and Catherine were chased around by paparazzi because they were engaged and then married to the heir. If that happened to Meghan where is the footage? Why didn't they use it? Why is Backgrid credited with all their pictures? (Celebs contact Backgrid to tell them where and when to take photos). None of it makes sense. There is a photo of Harry putting his hand up to a photographer but it's a cropped photo of him with Chelsey Davy circa 2009.

PicturesOfDogs · 07/12/2022 21:21

stuntbubbles · 07/12/2022 21:16

They never said that. They said they wanted to pursue financial independence, and not be full-time working royals. The royal family wouldn’t let them do half-in, half-out, and now here we are. But they never wanted to remove themselves from public life – and it would be fairly odd for an actress to want to do so, so I don’t know why people have bought into this narrative planted by Kensington Palace.

Then why the fuck was he on Oprah crying that daddy cut him off?
Talking about all he’s got is from his mother.

Does that sound like the words of someone seeking financial independence to you?

2bazookas · 07/12/2022 21:26

Meghan and Harry are re-enacting his mother's life.

The doomed match; the victim bride , royal rejection, damning TV interviews, global revenge publicity. Even a little reprise of Diana's " people question the looks of my son"

Just waiting for the serial affairs, losing the titles, the broken-home kids and the tragic death.

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