To wonder why many on MN

[CourtneeLuv]

Are so pedantic, literal and joyless?

Other sites aren't like this

Oh that does sound like a problem actually. I had no idea that happened.

The auto removal that is.

I’ve had a couple of threads deleted too. Threads where I have posted for genuine advice which MNers simply didn’t like. One resulted in me almost getting banned because they didn’t think I was genuine. After I emailed them, they then started saying my posts were not in good faith and repeated racist posts I had allegedly posted as an example…when in fact they were posts from other users that I had reported to them.

I am now super careful of what I post for advice. Not because I’m worried of the usual vipers but because if I post something someone on MN doesn’t like rather than simply disagree with, my thread gets deleted and it could result in an actual ban.

I guess that ties in with the OP - so many MNers are so joyless that if they don’t like the thread, they try and get it deleted. And it’s so petty and unnecessary. If you don’t like the tone or content, you don’t have to participate in the conversation, not try and take away the OP’s attempts to get support.

It's rude and patronising. I don't think it's accurate but that's by the by. It's possible to disagree without being rude and condescending.

I think society in general has become more joyless sadly. The bullying and pedantry I can't explain. I've been on here almost since the begining and yes it was a bit nicer but it was smaller.

It’s always why I don’t automatically think a “previously banned poster” is a troll. I was banned before they unbanned simply because some users didn’t like my thread.

You know, I’m beginning to think that it isn’t obvious to neurotypicals either but they just answer anyway and don’t think too much about it. Whereas we like to be correct so we need accurate information.

Not all neurotypicals of course, but I get sick of people (not you!) thinking that we have rubbish social skills/literal thinking etc when it just isn’t true.

I would like to see some proof or links to establish that auto removal really happens.

I love how just posting on a thread now classes as 'chiming in'. I assume that some people on here are experts with how the mods on MN work and know in detail all the TSSDNCOP stuff.

I get sick of people (not you!) thinking that we have rubbish social skills/literal thinking etc when it just isn’t true.

I almost find the literal thinking insulting as it's certainly not the case (I know it's not intended that way).

I think it’s possible that some of the posters on here are paid to steer public opinion. I mean, it’s known that people are paid to do this and Mumsnet has a huge volume of traffic so it wouldn’t be surprising.

10 years ago there was a group of regulars who seemed to think they owned MN. If they didn't like a thread subject, they would often post en masse to deliberately derail it.

They openly admitted to reporting en masse too as they had a little group outside of Mumsnet.

As they gradually dropped off/got banned/flounced, MN changed for the better.

Totally agree with you. Coming on here is stepping into a different world. It's absolutely full of jumped up entitled cranks.

Having said that, there's also a lot of lovely people on here giving great advice.

Then you get the person who was fuming because someone put salt and pepper on their meal before tasting it, and the person who wanted to tell her boss to &$%# off because he asked her to ask a question in a meeting, but she justified her reasoning saying it was because she's a high earner......

I recently saw a thread were a poster was excited for either a lunch or dinner out at somewhere she considered fancy.

The sheer number of posters who fell over themselves to tell her that her special thing was neither fancy or special was astonishing. It was like watching a Mean Girls clique against an outsider at school. It was very unnecessary, but very indicative of what OP means.

I don't know why people get this urgent need to pull another person down on here.

Persistent, multiple, posts on threads to tell a poster they are incorrect or in the wrong when they've already acknowledged it and/or apologised as well, is just hounding people for the sake of it

I think that still gos on . I name change constantly because of this. I have lost track of my own usernames .

In the past they would have been Puritains of the worst sort - the king killers, the Christmas banners, the “inform on your neighbours” - only now they have a new “religion” .

There was a fair few 'knitting at the guillotine' type people when there was a sniff of a Royal death. That's fairly joyless.

I've literally just clicked on a thread were the OP has been sniped at within two posts. It's like people are incapable of stopping themselves.

Hi all - there are some questions about our moderation here and so we'd like to clarify a couple of things. Some posts are auto hidden due to number of reports but each one is then reviewed by us. If it doesn't break our Talk guidelines then we reinstate it.

Having an different opinion to the majority doesn't break our guidelines in itself. We welcome robust debate and differing views must be tolerated if expressed within our guidelines.

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Unlike many sites, we consider each report individually and you'll get a response from an actual human. If AI ever becomes sentient then perhaps the Mumsnet mod team in 2100 will have a really sarcastic robot but for now it's just people.

We should also remind everyone that we don't tolerate disablism - we've removed a few posts here for this reason.

If you've any further questions, please drop us a line as we may not see everything posted here. Thanks all.

Oh yes definitely but there was a lot more humour and sisterhood back then. Actual funny threads that made me laugh, people making jokes, no need for having to state “light hearted” or people screaming troll whenever someone posts about something that not on their pre approved list of subjects to talk about. Even posters who try and use a bit of humour to make light of a situation they’ve found the selves in get the troll and try hard label screamed at them. The site is becoming almost unusable.

I welcome the post from MNHQ, which establishes that auto hiding of posts happens due to report volume but posts are not auto deleted.

Oh yes definitely but there was a lot more humour and sisterhood back then.

I've been here 10 years and this definitely isn't true. Start a thread 10 years ago and you'd get the same replies as you get now.

Since I’ve been looking at this website, I’ve seen so much nastiness and judgement. In the last few days alone:

• Bullying new mums scared of strep A or other illnesses, telling them their anxiety makes them bad parents
• Racism and bigotry
• Obsession with benefits claimants
• Total obsession with class (what makes you middle class? JFC get a life you saddos!)
• House price mania/you’re a failure if you don’t own a house
• Bullying people out of going to a&e when they really should be going to a&e
• Just general shitty judgmental behaviour and complete lack of solidarity.

No wonder this place has such a bad rep among millennials and gen z! It’s awful. Why? My theory is a lot of unhappy, possibly drunk older women whose lives haven’t turned out as they wanted and who feel better if they vent their spleen at other, younger, less experienced women.

I had a whole thread deleted under we are not sure if the poster is genuine. And I was banned. It was sorted out in the end . But it still caused an inconvenience and got the thread removed. And I do believe there are posters on MN that aim to purposely derail a threads and get them deleted.

I agree with this. A number of posters seem to fall over themselves to put others down. The sneery posts with an air of I'm so much better than you are horrible.
The kind of people that would try and make someone feel bad like this are just nasty.
The horrible bitches from my high school days are still horrible bitches, ever at the ready to make fun and bring people down nearly 30 years on.