When the stakes are this high doesn't it make more sense to hear our story from us?

[Believeinyou]

what stakes? what are they on about?

That would be good! Would there need to be 2 topics though? Heaven and Hell?

I personally think they should get security paid by the taxpayer. Harry was born into a high profile role. He did not choose that life and all the security risks it brought. The British State choose it for him. So we should pay for it for life. Saying he only gets it if he remains in the Royal Family is an attempt at coercive control.

If the British state doesn’t want to pay for the consequences of hereditary royal family they should abolish the RF. But whilst we have it, I do think we have a lifelong moral responsibility to those born into it ( and their families).

Especially Harry who lost his mother due to her time in the RF. He knows how real the risks are.

I think the high stakes are their need to make money, it's a high stake for them but not for anybody else

It's a trail for a programme and is the way Harry and Meghan say things so I'm not surprised and I can't get my knickers in a twist about it.

I neither like nor dislike them but I love celebrity gossip, as do many people. They're not going to say anything about me because they don't know I exist, so I'm going to sit back and enjoy them sticking the knife into other people they do know and I've heard about.

I'm not going to watch because I don't have Netflix and after their interview with Oprah and Meghan's dull podcasts, I want someone else to go through it and give me the edited highlights.

My biggest fear is that they''ll pull their punches.

But if I wasn't interested I wouldn't pay any attention to them. I wonder why other people who say they wished Harry and Meghan would go away don't ignore them too.

Agreed!

The weird hatred some people have for them is so bizarre.

H & M should have stayed as working royals
she didnt like being second best
suck it up buttercup
how many times has she been married? and what went wrong with those relationships?
i think majority of british public would back harry over megan and many are worried that their marriage wont last and he will come back with his tail between his legs.

Yes, I have often wondered why there is no 'Celebrity' topic on MN, it would be good for those who quite like the DM celebrity sidebar or who like to scan through a copy of Closer/Grazia at the hairdressers

Absolutely this!
Also if they're so worried for their lives then they need to take a massive step back, stop spewing lies and stop trying to destroy Harry's family then they'd be left alone! This is all drama they've created.
Their story is the shit in their heads they want everyone to believe that makes them look like wonderful people so they can be ambassadors to everything woke and be adored like Diana, Michelle Obama etc, however so many people are straight through their nonsense and actually see the 'real them' which is actually very unpleasant

I must admit the 'stakes so high' comment with the dramatic music made me laugh. I think the show is geared to an US audience. The trailer was so gloriously tacky and trashy ... although I did wonder if Netflix is doing the same as The Cut. Unless the streamer has a political agenda against the RF then their best tactic would be to follow The Cut's example. That would appeal to the widest audience base.

No. What should have happened is that Queen and RF abandoned the ridiculous tradition of the male heir to throne having to marry a virgin, and not being able to marry a divorcee. Then Charles would not have, out of coerced duty, married a young woman he did not love. And none of this shit show would have happened.

i agree the trailer looked completely trashy

Harry is her second husband. If the (divorced) King can marry a divorced woman, I'm sure his younger son can too.

@Willmafrockfit who but martyrs and masochists likes being second best? If you find yourself in a situation you don't like you leave, don't you? That's what Meghan did with her first marriage and she might do with this one for all I know. Or they might live happily ever after. I don't care unless they do something interesting like threaten an interview slagging off people I don't know and don't care about who would say the same thing about me if they knew I existed.

She was a mediocre actress but now she's playing the role of her life.

Fake.

They wanted privacy.

I used to have a lot of sympathy for them. Especially when they said they wanted privacy etc. But it seems like they're in the public eye more since they 'left' the Royal Family. It's also annoying when they're complaining about how hard done by they are at a time when most people don't have two sticks to rub together.

Agreed. Making themselves richer and more in the limelight is only going to antagonise more. I'm sick of them both. Wish they'd either shut up or at least add value to the world rather than playing the victim 24/7

@foggydaysun But H has chosen to abandon his royal life. Did you miss that bit?

No one has forced him to live in the US.

He has also had more money thrown at him via Charles than most of us can imagine.

Has he used it wisely? $Millions on a massive house, designer lifestyle etc.

No. He could pay for his own security.

How anyone can behave like he/ they did when the Queen was clearly dying is beyond me. The pain he must have inflicted.
And now to start it all over again, with his father still struggling with losing both his parents so recently.

Can anyone imagine how awful it must be to be a parent when your adult child bleats to the world(and does it for money) when you can't say anything in reply?

I feel sorry for H. He's had issues for years and sadly has married someone who just feeds his insecurities and manipulates him, to boost her own ego.

I agree @MoanySloney - there was ample opportunity for them to live a quiet life of service if they wanted privacy. I don’t really get their issue - they chose to leave the royal family and now spend all their time moaning about it. And moaning about super obvious stuff like, it’s stuffy and old fashioned. I mean, that’s kind of the point of it.

She might say it’s racist (and maybe it is, I have obviously no clue) but they’ve provided no evidence for that apart from “someone wondered what our mixed race child would look like”. I mean, for every baby, don’t people wonder what they’ll look like? I wondered if our child would have dark hair like my husband or blonde like me, green or blue eyes etc. Pretty normal to wonder, will he be darker skinned like his mum or super pale like his dad? Now I don’t know how that conversation was had - and obviously she felt it was racist, but to have one possibly racist comment and then take that to mean that the whole institution is racist is kind of pushing it a bit.

If they were concerned about security they had options. Frogmore cottage was the safest option but that didn't suit MM (let's face it we all knew H wasn't bothered about a move). They could have moved somewhere else and stayed low profile. It's very telling they've moved to near LA. That tells me they are positioning themselves in the world's public eye. Its about as high profile as you can get.

Princess Di would have lived a lot longer if she had lived quietly. I'm not blaming her for wanting a glitzy public life and a love life but it made her a paparazzi target. Plus it pissed of the royal family.

Seems like harry is trying to finish what Di started.

I think they would love to put the boot in to the RF.

Then Charles would not have, out of coerced duty, married a young woman he did not love. And none of this shit show would have happened.

He would probably have married someone else he didn't love though.

Perhaps better if he hadn't married?

They can afford their own security. Her statement makes no sense. What does telling their story have to do with security and death threats??

I thought the conversation about Archie’s skin tone was in front of Harry and he repeated it to Meghan. So, you can imagine what happened there.

I just think Meghan, like a lot of Americans had very little understanding of the Royal family, what they do, the strict protocol and line of succession. She thought she’d be moving into a Palace with a tiara and be rolling her sleeves up to revamp their image, make some sweeping changes and they would all be in awe of this dynamic Hollywood star who brought them into the modern age.

Harry had already lost two girlfriends who did not want to be dragged into the public eye for life and he was scared of losing Meghan. So he let her believe that she could be powerful and important and when she realised the truth - that she was just a puppet waving from balconies - they decided to blame the Institution instead.

Without doubt if security was the priority then living in Frogmore or KP was the most secure option available.

H&M choose to behave in ways that very much increase their security risks and those of their children.