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When the stakes are this high doesn't it make more sense to hear our story from us?

436 replies

Believeinyou · 04/12/2022 00:06

what stakes? what are they on about?

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dropthevipers · 04/12/2022 00:54

Ozgirl75 · 04/12/2022 00:39

I’ll never really understand what went wrong with their situation. They had so much goodwill around the wedding. Sure, some people didn’t like her, but that’s the public eye for you. I think people resented being lectured by two pampered privileged people, jetting around while complaining about climate change, but again, no more so than the rest of the Leonado set.
i don’t really understand why they don’t just get on with doing some proper work (not just the accepting awards/making podcasts thing) and prove that there is something more substantial about them - like, prove the haters wrong! Do something with this fame and power!

What went wrong? As soon as it dawned on Megan that she was strictly second rank (at best) and could look forward to a lifetime of opening sports centres in Rotherham she thought"fuck this for a lark, we'll piss of to Hollywood and cash in on our royal status by washing dirty linen for money".

Annie232 · 04/12/2022 00:56

I think the problem with meghan that has led to all of this is that she is highly insecure. Probably not all her fault given her upbringing.

Orangepolentacake · 04/12/2022 00:58

Snowballtorch · 04/12/2022 00:12

...and also, we have only heard their story from them... one hundred times over. Nobody else talks about them and they don't shut up!

You’re talking about them

IntentionalError · 04/12/2022 01:03

When a person can blatantly lie about their own wedding in a high-profile TV interview with Oprah, why should anyone believe a single word they say about anything else?

WatchoRulo · 04/12/2022 01:04

Whateverusername · 04/12/2022 00:50

When is it on Netflix? The full thing?

No date yet - just "coming soon"

Carouselfish · 04/12/2022 01:07

As a pp said, word salad. So LA. Agonising grammar. Meaningless.

Annie232 · 04/12/2022 01:07

WatchoRulo · 04/12/2022 01:04

No date yet - just "coming soon"

I thought it was Thursday 8th?

MarshaMelrose · 04/12/2022 01:08

DarkDarkNight · 04/12/2022 00:10

Credible threats to Megan’s life and the lack of security for them and their family for a start.

So how does them telling me their story change the threats and security?

kittensinthekitchen · 04/12/2022 01:27

What's your AIBU question?

DutchessOfMuck · 04/12/2022 02:16

I have obviously never met them or seen them but I believe they are a good couple and in love. I do get that they want independent autonomy lifes. Something that the Royal life couldn't give them.

But oh my days! They need really good management and advisers because they are going about this all the wrong way. The are slowly but surely turning themselves into a pantomime.

They have said and done things that I agree and disagree and I am confused about. At the end of the day... I wish them all the best in life.

ChillyFingers · 04/12/2022 02:19

I think the 'high stakes' are financial as in them continuing to live like superstars with private jets and £15 million mansions. Not only that, Meghan wants a 'voice'. Her obvious ego could not cope with a life in obscurity. No one would dance in the streets at the mention of her name!

They have nothing to offer aside from being royals and they didn't want to put the work into that (making inane chit chat with the plebs on a rainy day in Romford while cutting the ribbon on a new biscuit factory) or follow the rules of a centuries old institution.

Meghan may have got a few higher level acting gigs on the back of her being married to a prince, but at her age and with her level of acting, she certainly wouldn't have got to Oscar winning level and couldn't command the money actual Hollywood actors make. Harry doesn't seem to have the ability to hold down an actual job so when Diana's inheritance ran out, they'd be fucked. I assume he got an inheritance from the Queen but they didn't know how long she'd go on for, her mother lived to over 100, and had started all this before she died so couldn't back down as contracts were signed. I wonder if that's why they wanted to tone it down after her death?

They could could have easily used the vast amount of money they already had to live privately in the US within their means out of the public eye and would soon have been forgotten about.

I'm sure Charles would have seen them alright if they were a bit short on the kids school fees. I don't think he'd have cut them off financially if they hadn't started their all out war?

If they were really concerned about their safety, why leave the protection of the RF and run off to a much less safer country with guns in abundance. They do realise if some one from the UK wanted to harm them, they could just get on a plane.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 04/12/2022 02:23

I did laugh at that.

The ‘stakes are high’ how - how deluded do you have to be to think you’re that important?! No one will die if you ‘don’t tell your story’. No one will even so much as she’d a tear. You have no power anywhere. The stakes are very much low. In fact the stakes are irrelevant because they don’t exist

Attention seeking pair of twats. They need to understand that whilst Hollywood is all about paid appearances, self promotion, paid to wear shitty overpriced brands and shoulder rubbing with the stars, that’s not the same as what the RF do.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 04/12/2022 02:27

dropthevipers · 04/12/2022 00:54

What went wrong? As soon as it dawned on Megan that she was strictly second rank (at best) and could look forward to a lifetime of opening sports centres in Rotherham she thought"fuck this for a lark, we'll piss of to Hollywood and cash in on our royal status by washing dirty linen for money".

Yep.

I’ve never bought that she didn’t know what she was walking into. Aside from the fact they make it very clear, Harry has known nothing else and would surely have told her ‘yeah you have to kiss babies and trail around after me in a pretty dress forever’.

I think she thought that once she was in The Firm she’d be in a position to shake things up. That’s the Hollywood way, but not the Royal way.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 04/12/2022 02:28

Annie232 · 04/12/2022 00:56

I think the problem with meghan that has led to all of this is that she is highly insecure. Probably not all her fault given her upbringing.

Nah she’s super secure, she just doesn’t wanna do what she doesn’t wanna do. Which is fine as a life value - but then don’t marry into an old arse institution that makes you so boring shit and then complain

Gingerkittykat · 04/12/2022 02:56

I'm looking forward to their documentary, so many people have made fortunes from talking and writing about them so why shouldn't they also make some money by talking about themselves?

It was made clear earlier this week that there were credible threats made towards them by right wing extremists. Why would they want to live in a country where there were dozens of negative newspaper articles about them every day as well as having their lives threatened?

MarshaMelrose · 04/12/2022 03:09

I'm looking forward to their documentary, so many people have made fortunes from talking and writing about them so why shouldn't they also make some money by talking about themselves?

But they're not making money by talking about themselves, are they? They're making money by talking about other people.
I doubt they'd be paid more than £1.50 to hear about his problems with his pipes, or the conjoined tree, or her Hermes blanket or more about his mental health. So he has to sell talk about his family instead.

Qwayserdeyas · 04/12/2022 03:12

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MarshaMelrose · 04/12/2022 03:59

Nothing speaks obsession more than capital letters. 😆

GrandOleOpryNights · 04/12/2022 04:08

Orangepolentacake · 04/12/2022 00:58

You’re talking about them

😂 And they’ll all be watching it on Netflix.

KateBain · 04/12/2022 04:11

Sparklingbrook · 04/12/2022 00:13

The threads about them on MN are never ending. There’s an obsession.

And yet you open and comment on them ...

GrandOleOpryNights · 04/12/2022 04:12

MarshaMelrose · 04/12/2022 03:09

I'm looking forward to their documentary, so many people have made fortunes from talking and writing about them so why shouldn't they also make some money by talking about themselves?

But they're not making money by talking about themselves, are they? They're making money by talking about other people.
I doubt they'd be paid more than £1.50 to hear about his problems with his pipes, or the conjoined tree, or her Hermes blanket or more about his mental health. So he has to sell talk about his family instead.

They can talk about their lives and experiences if they want to. I don’t know why anyone is that bothered if they do. You can just not watch.

waltzingparrot · 04/12/2022 04:19

It doesn't make sense if it's just going to be more lies. I'd rather hear it from all those ex-employees - might give us a more rounded picture.

GrandOleOpryNights · 04/12/2022 04:20

waltzingparrot · 04/12/2022 04:19

It doesn't make sense if it's just going to be more lies. I'd rather hear it from all those ex-employees - might give us a more rounded picture.

Do ex employees not lie?

Frezia · 04/12/2022 04:26

Meghan and Harry may be frequently cringeworthy but I really don't think she wanted fame without the work or that it was beneath her. I think at her onboarding to royal life she was fed the narrative about the "life of service" expected of royals and that she was genuinely up for it. It's just that service and sacrifice mean something quite different to royals than to most of us.
For them cutting ribbons at sports centres in Rotherham does equal to the life of service and sacrifice and giving back to the people. Any bit of positive attention they give to their subjects is to be seen as a blessing.

Meanwhile during her royal tenure Meghan provided more practical help and publicity to her charities, like SmartWorks clothing line and the Grenfell cookbook. It was different. Maybe she does enjoy the fame it gets her, it doesn't matter - her way is still more impactful and relatable in the 21st century.
Because cutting ribbons by pompous bland royals isn't cutting it. "Subjects" don't want to be just waved at anymore. What a waste of a platform and such low expectations of people who are not only paid millions but also get to brainwash the public about their hard work, service and sacrifice.

That must've ruffled feathers in the royal household and she needed to be brought down a peg. Of course it was only ever going to end one way.

Ozgirl75 · 04/12/2022 04:48

For non British people, being a royal must seem pretty cool - especially after the massive fame Diana was able to use for good causes like AIDS and landmines. But I think most British people would look at the life of a royal and think “no thanks”
Compare William and Kate with Pippa and her husband. William and Kate have to have a life of attending events, holidays in Britain, making sure they don’t put a foot wrong, grooming the next generation, not being overly spendy and yet providing glamour and spectacle.
Pippa and hubby - (and I only pick her as they are similar backgrounds) - holidays anywhere in the world, no pressure to do only charity work, get moaned about? So what? Live a life of extreme wealth and privilege whilst only having the slightest of comment made about you. I know which one I would prefer.
And so I suspect Meghan thought her life would be a lot more high profile and fancy, whereas the royal family just is so different to that. Also, Diana was only really able to follow the causes that meant so much to her once she had left the royals. Plus she was mother to a king, whereas Meghan is the equivalent of Anthony Armstrong Jones - and I don’t think anyone expected a big high profile role for him.