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When the stakes are this high doesn't it make more sense to hear our story from us?

436 replies

Believeinyou · 04/12/2022 00:06

what stakes? what are they on about?

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Ozgirl75 · 04/12/2022 04:50

In fact maybe she’s the equivalent of Fergie, Sophie or Timothy Lawrence. Again, although they are “known”, no one expects that much from them!

reddingweddy · 04/12/2022 05:35

I can't quote the post but all I can think about is how Rotherham will cope with a lifetime's supply of sports centres.

Mamma5464 · 04/12/2022 05:35

Believeinyou · 04/12/2022 00:18

sorry i did mean M&h

just watched the trailer and thought wtf? the sentence makes no sense to me..... what stakes

I guess you'll have to watch to find out - surely the point of a trailer. 🙄

WeWereInParis · 04/12/2022 05:52

DarkDarkNight · 04/12/2022 00:10

Credible threats to Megan’s life and the lack of security for them and their family for a start.

Those things are obviously high stakes, but it doesn't then follow to say "doesn't it make sense to hear our story from us". Them telling us their story makes no difference to those stakes.

However, the trailer makes it sound like she said that in response to the question at the start "why did you want to make this documentary". But of course it could have a totally different context that makes it a reasonable thing to say - eg (and clearly I'm completely speculating as an example) she could have been talking about the high stakes of them leaving the UK/stopping being working royals, and relations breaking down between them and the RF, and could basically have been saying, why didn't the RF talk to us properly, the stakes were so high because it was such a big decision, why wouldn't they want to get the full picture from us about this etc.

So I think judging it without the context is a bit pointless.

TidyDancer · 04/12/2022 05:52

I think there probably was a fundamental misunderstanding by MM about what life would realistically be like in the RF. When she and PH couldn't get their own way/realised how low down in the pecking order they were and the direction this would continue to travel, I think they started to get pissed off. That's their prerogative I guess, but their behaviour since then has been what has turned a lot of public opinion against them.

Despite what some of the papers said, there was an enormous amount of public goodwill towards them around the time of their marriage and birth of Archie. But MM's proven lies and constant trashing of the RF from both of them while monetising that connection for all it's worth is distasteful at best.

vera99 · 04/12/2022 05:58

DarkDarkNight · 04/12/2022 00:10

Credible threats to Megan’s life and the lack of security for them and their family for a start.

Look what happened to John Lennon and not forgetting that killing the son of the King of England would be a huge terrorist coup.The fact that the British RF won't underwrite that risk is shameful regardless of what you think of them as people.

ReneBumsWombats · 04/12/2022 06:04

Snowballtorch · 04/12/2022 00:12

...and also, we have only heard their story from them... one hundred times over. Nobody else talks about them and they don't shut up!

Are we not talking about them right now?

AutumnCrow · 04/12/2022 06:32

I see what you mean, @WeWereInParis.

The stakes = family relations
This high = it’s all on a knife edge
Makes more sense = listen to us, Royal Family, not a bunch of flunkies and men in grey suits

That kind of scenario? I can vaguely perceive it.

AutumnCrow · 04/12/2022 06:38

And in other news, top of the ‘Similar threads’ list below is ‘Storytelling’.

ExtraOnions · 04/12/2022 06:50

I have no doubt that every member of the RF has had credible threats to their lives … as well as innumerable other figures - there are plenty of mouthy extremists on all sides

Nineteen60s · 04/12/2022 07:10

The trailer for the Netflix thing is so overly dramatic!

I do think it’s a shame they couldn’t have just been quiet and gone off and done their own thing. Surely, living in the US and being so high profile is increasing the chances of anything bad happening to them and their children? Why can’t they see that?

If they wanted out of the Royal family, fair enough. But why not just buy a nice house somewhere (this country, where they are close to family), and I’m sure they could have done other things to bring in money.
She could have continued acting?
He could have made little documentaries about the Army, flying helicopters, the countryside, good causes here and abroad?
So many things would have been possible for them!

But clearly, that wasn’t enough for them……

hugznotdrugz · 04/12/2022 07:18

We have although apparently every version of "their truth" isn't the version they wanted out there so they have an excuse to do it again- they've already started saying the netflix doc isn't how they wanted it

BellePeppa · 04/12/2022 07:20

AlanDavidson · 04/12/2022 00:15

Nobody else talks about them

Really? I'm guessing you've never picked up a copy of the Daily Mail, one of the most-read newspapers in Britain. There is story after story about Meghan every single day.

Don’t they put the stories in themselves, courtesy of their PR?

vera99 · 04/12/2022 07:23

All Charles had to do way back when was to tell Camilla its over now the game has changed and I'm going to love (whatever that is !) and cherish my beautiful young wife and grow together....but he didn't and in the end karma is a bitch called Megan.

ReneBumsWombats · 04/12/2022 07:25

vera99 · 04/12/2022 07:23

All Charles had to do way back when was to tell Camilla its over now the game has changed and I'm going to love (whatever that is !) and cherish my beautiful young wife and grow together....but he didn't and in the end karma is a bitch called Megan.

What?

vera99 · 04/12/2022 07:30

Fidelity and monogamy Charles should have tried it but he didn't and here we are.Had they stayed happily married and brought the boys up together with maybe more children then Di would probably never had died and Harry wouldn't have become so screwed up. Just a thought obviously a bit radical for the head of the CofE....

lightisnotwhite · 04/12/2022 07:30

DarkDarkNight · 04/12/2022 00:10

Credible threats to Megan’s life and the lack of security for them and their family for a start.

So hearing “their side of the story” is going to stop some nut job from attacking her. Righto.

Maybe if that’s the overriding reason she could devote her time and money to helping the large number of other women who face daily threats to their lives from domestic violence, stalkers etc. Shine some light on it. Rather than alluding dramatically.

AutumnCrow · 04/12/2022 07:31

Indeed, I do not feel very kindly disposed toward the Royal Family and haven’t done for a very long time.

All the PR spinning, the political meddling, the class snobbery, the racial snobbery, the lies and adultery, the stupid self-indulgent dramas - and let’s not forget Uncle Andrew and his convicted paedophilic trafficker friends and appalling behaviour.

It has become its own satirical portrayal a la Spitting Image meets Succession.

vera99 · 04/12/2022 07:34

and since they are all as rich as Creosous I'll save my sympathy for more deserving causes and just enjoy the show it is The Crown after all ....

Ladybug14 · 04/12/2022 07:35

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WeWereInParis · 04/12/2022 07:37

AutumnCrow · 04/12/2022 06:32

I see what you mean, @WeWereInParis.

The stakes = family relations
This high = it’s all on a knife edge
Makes more sense = listen to us, Royal Family, not a bunch of flunkies and men in grey suits

That kind of scenario? I can vaguely perceive it.

Much more succinctly put than I managed!

And obviously I've no idea if that's the context, I was just pointing out that until the context is shown she could be talking about a number of things.

Skodacool · 04/12/2022 07:41

Also Harry claimed he had to protect his family. My question is, from what?

Newmum0322 · 04/12/2022 07:41

MarshaMelrose · 04/12/2022 01:08

So how does them telling me their story change the threats and security?

Yes, that’s what confused me.

The stakes are high, between them and the royals. Harry’s relationship with his family for a start, their role as working royals for a second. I’m not sure how telling me (or the collective we) would affect these things, not to mention security costs which, again, can’t help them with.

So I’m hoping the quote has been taken out of context. Perhaps it’s past tense and they’re referring to the ‘royals’ not hearing their story first perhaps…

ShamedBySiri · 04/12/2022 07:43

It was made clear earlier this week that there were credible threats made towards them by right wing extremists. Why would they want to live in a country where there were dozens of negative newspaper articles about them every day as well as having their lives threatened?

Why would they want to live in a country where every other person has a gun or five and school shootings and other mass shootings are practically a daily occurrence?

CakesAndCookies · 04/12/2022 07:46

vera99 · 04/12/2022 07:23

All Charles had to do way back when was to tell Camilla its over now the game has changed and I'm going to love (whatever that is !) and cherish my beautiful young wife and grow together....but he didn't and in the end karma is a bitch called Megan.

^this with bells on