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When the stakes are this high doesn't it make more sense to hear our story from us?

436 replies

Believeinyou · 04/12/2022 00:06

what stakes? what are they on about?

OP posts:
Choconut · 04/12/2022 09:24

I think Diana and Meghan have a lot of similarities, I think they both tick some boxes for vulnerable/covert narcissism - and I think Harry was always likely to marry someone like his mother. Both very beautiful but the big difference between them is that Diana knew exactly how to court the media and get them all to fall in love with her where as Meghan - despite seeming to be a keen social climber - does not.

BellePeppa · 04/12/2022 09:24

custardbear · 04/12/2022 08:47

Absolutely this!
Also if they're so worried for their lives then they need to take a massive step back, stop spewing lies and stop trying to destroy Harry's family then they'd be left alone! This is all drama they've created.
Their story is the shit in their heads they want everyone to believe that makes them look like wonderful people so they can be ambassadors to everything woke and be adored like Diana, Michelle Obama etc, however so many people are straight through their nonsense and actually see the 'real them' which is actually very unpleasant

No one is ever going to hold her in the high esteem Diana was. That horse has bolted (actually it didn’t even exist). Diana was very unique in her popularity and how deeply people loved her, it can’t be replicated by anyone as it was a natural, organic connection she made with people. Even if you weren’t a fan of Diana there was no denying her natural charisma.

AndEverWhoKnew · 04/12/2022 09:25

It's all celeb gossip but none of it matters. They're not going to bring down the RF. Everyone in the UK knows the RF is stuffy, rule-bound, unwelcoming to newcomers. All of this has only been a revelation to Americans and tbh their opinions have no impact on UK history, society or culture. All the overblown drama is just about selling stuff ie papers, streaming programmes, podcasts. And I mean for the media companies and H&M.

I don't blame H&M for leaving. I don't blame them for hawking themselves round every company that will pay them. I do wonder if they're foolish enough to believe they can actually impact the UK political system because that's what bringing down the monarchy would mean and tbh that's a bit beyond an unhappy former prince and his wife. No matter how many Russian bots fuel the flames and how many media moguls throw millions at it.

Sonyrecording · 04/12/2022 09:28

foggydaysun · 04/12/2022 08:35

I personally think they should get security paid by the taxpayer. Harry was born into a high profile role. He did not choose that life and all the security risks it brought. The British State choose it for him. So we should pay for it for life. Saying he only gets it if he remains in the Royal Family is an attempt at coercive control.

If the British state doesn’t want to pay for the consequences of hereditary royal family they should abolish the RF. But whilst we have it, I do think we have a lifelong moral responsibility to those born into it ( and their families).

Especially Harry who lost his mother due to her time in the RF. He knows how real the risks are.

If you look at the security (or lack of it) that other minor royals get it wouldn't be fair to pay for M+H in the roles that they chose to occupy. I think it's a bit low of them to keep bleating on about it to be honest, they are well able to pay for their own security. Their activities are making them a fortune that most can only dream about.

Choconut · 04/12/2022 09:31

On the 'high stakes' issue I don't think they want us to know what they are - they probably don't even know what they're referring to themselves, that's the point, they want everyone to be talking about it and then to watch to try to find out.

I suspect the series will all look extremely beautiful but have very little substance, just some dramatic lines every now and then where no one's quite sure exactly what they're talking about - just like the trailer really. They might as well call it 'Reality Royals' and just use the disclaimers they put up on TOWIE.

foggydaysun · 04/12/2022 09:43

@foggydaysun But H has chosen to abandon his royal life. Did you miss that but

No, I didn’t but you quite clearly missed the fact that my entire post was clearly arguing that he should get British state funded security after choosing to leave the RF.

LoisWilkersonslastnerve · 04/12/2022 09:44

It's the Royal Family does Spinal Tap. I bet loads of people claiming disinterest will tune in. High stakes indeed😂

Soproudoflionesses · 04/12/2022 09:50

Ozgirl75 · 04/12/2022 09:04

I agree @MoanySloney - there was ample opportunity for them to live a quiet life of service if they wanted privacy. I don’t really get their issue - they chose to leave the royal family and now spend all their time moaning about it. And moaning about super obvious stuff like, it’s stuffy and old fashioned. I mean, that’s kind of the point of it.

She might say it’s racist (and maybe it is, I have obviously no clue) but they’ve provided no evidence for that apart from “someone wondered what our mixed race child would look like”. I mean, for every baby, don’t people wonder what they’ll look like? I wondered if our child would have dark hair like my husband or blonde like me, green or blue eyes etc. Pretty normal to wonder, will he be darker skinned like his mum or super pale like his dad? Now I don’t know how that conversation was had - and obviously she felt it was racist, but to have one possibly racist comment and then take that to mean that the whole institution is racist is kind of pushing it a bit.

I have got a friend who had a baby - black dad, white mum and l wondered what colour skin the baby would have because l know and his brother have different colour - l find it really interesting as l do eye colour etc. So l don't think curiosity like that is always racist. Context is key here.

Fladdermus · 04/12/2022 09:52

If that one line in the trailer is anything to go by the whole thing is going to be a exercise in badly acted word soup. There was nothing sincere about that clip. Totally fake.

Probablymagrat · 04/12/2022 10:07

I don't really understand the ongoing interest in the Sussexes. They left the Royal family because they want to be private people. Well do that then, if you don't like intrusion into your live stop publicising yourselves.

PeaceJoySleep · 04/12/2022 10:20

I wondered that too op. The stakes???!
Also, they never stop telling their story, it's a story id love to hear from camilla or Charles.

But however badly they have damaged their reputations, they got about 200 million dollars from telling their side repeatedly.

Needaholidaypronto · 04/12/2022 10:26

Wonder when they”ve pimped this lot of grievances out what they’ll use for season 2 🤷‍♀️

Ozgirl75 · 04/12/2022 10:28

I guess their major problem for ongoing life is that they aren’t really THAT interesting, apart from when they’re gossiping about the proper royal family. She’s a small time soap actress and he’s a second tier royal. They hadn’t done all that much although Harry had a great opportunity with his work for the Forces (now sadly abandoned). So what else would Americans pay to hear them talk about?

ZforZebra · 04/12/2022 10:37

How will a tell-all documentary on Netflix address/deal with threats to their security? I am confused…might make more sense if we watch the whole thing. One thing I have wondered is who was filming Meghan while she was crying.

Trollsintheforest · 04/12/2022 10:39

I’ve already given the documentary a thumbs down on Netflix. I’m not in the UK, but I don’t understand how they still can have their titles. They are really bad pr for the UK, they add nothing positive at all.

AndEverWhoKnew · 04/12/2022 10:45

LoisWilkersonslastnerve · 04/12/2022 09:44

It's the Royal Family does Spinal Tap. I bet loads of people claiming disinterest will tune in. High stakes indeed😂

I wasn't interested in it when I thought it was going to be serious. Now that it looks like a trashy ott reality show, I might actually watch it 😄
I do find it fascinating when very wealthy people expect the little people to feel sad for them.

OutwiththeOutCrowd · 04/12/2022 10:52

Hmm, I think there is less to this than meets the eye. Meghan could hardly say, 'Roll up, roll up, it's the Harry and Meghan Show!' so had to come up with something gnomic and bamboozling to lure the punters in.

Bestcatmum · 04/12/2022 10:55

They want total privacy. Why don't they just fuck off then and stop courting publicity all over the world. Its bizarre.

PeaceJoySleep · 04/12/2022 10:57

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 04/12/2022 02:28

Nah she’s super secure, she just doesn’t wanna do what she doesn’t wanna do. Which is fine as a life value - but then don’t marry into an old arse institution that makes you so boring shit and then complain

@Annie232 is right. Meghan gets what she wants but she is not secure. A secure person doesn't "subtly" try to correct the public's perception of her. Meghan keeeeeps trying to correct our perception of her. She may be determined and she certainly is but she isn't secure in herself. Nope.

BringItBackBruno · 04/12/2022 11:02

How on earth are the royal family going to handle their attendance at the coronation? They'll be falling all over themselves to be there (along with camera crews) so they can go back and sell the inside story of how hurtful it was that someone looked at them funny......

FrownedUpon · 04/12/2022 11:02

What an embarrassing pair they are. They should have some dignity and get on with their lives privately, which is supposedly what they wanted. They come across as so bitter and spiteful.

Diverseopinions · 04/12/2022 11:03

Sparklingbrook

The show on Thursday isn't about Thomas and Samantha Markle and Meghan and Harry's beef with them. What would happen if Netflix made a documentary about that ? They are Harry's in-laws, after all.

Looked at in that light, it's obvious the interest and the commentary clogging up Mumsnet is on account of it being the British Royal Family which this documentary is actually going to be about. The trailer saying 'high stakes' gives the element of risk and drama necessary to monetize the project, and suggests that more unprecedented accusations are going to be made about the newsworthy side of the couple's family.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 04/12/2022 11:04

I personally think they should get security paid by the taxpayer

Just like everyone else they already do, if the security services consider it necessary - unless you mean we should pay for their security in the US, and surely you can't mean that?

LadyEloise1 · 04/12/2022 11:11

Snowballtorch · 04/12/2022 00:17

Only after they have courted attention themselves. If they actually went off and lived the private life they talked about, I doubt they would be discussed at all.

I agree.
I thought they left the UK to live a more private life yet they constantly put themselves forward or sell themselves,their life and thoughts to the highest bidder.
🙄

Theunamedcat · 04/12/2022 11:22

foggydaysun · 04/12/2022 09:43

@foggydaysun But H has chosen to abandon his royal life. Did you miss that but

No, I didn’t but you quite clearly missed the fact that my entire post was clearly arguing that he should get British state funded security after choosing to leave the RF.

Taxpayers should not have to fund security in another country because they wanted to leave had they stayed they would not need as much security because they would be covered by everyone else's while they were at home or with family in America taxpayers would need to pay 24/7

I dont blame the RF for saying no that's unacceptable