When the stakes are this high doesn't it make more sense to hear our story from us?

[Believeinyou]

what stakes? what are they on about?

😂😂😂

They don’t apologise though. Ever. The same happened in the Oprah interview with manipulated headlines, to the point ITV actually edited bits out on their online platform to ensure the false headlines weren’t shown. They never utter a word about it. But like I’ve said before - that’s a very US approach, to go with fabrications and be absolutely fine with fake news.

I just wish they would go away and live the private life they said they wanted. I think it was very cheeky of them to release the trailers for the documentary just as the Prince and Princess of Wales arrived in the US. MM would do anything to steal the limelight.

I think it was very cheeky of them to release the trailers for the documentary just as the Prince and Princess of Wales arrived in the US

I think it was said they wouldn't have had any control over that timing, though how true that is I couldn't say ...

Just as a reminder, Harry joined the Aspen Institute last year in relation to a six-month study into the use of disinformation/misinformation in the media/online etc. Bloody ironic really.

archewell.com/news/prince-harry-and-aspen-commission-colleagues-release-much-anticipated-report-on-misinformation-crisis/

There's also no self-reflection, no 'with the benefit of hindsight it would have been better if we had taken more time to understand the potential impact of culture shock / not decided to become working royals / moved to the USA immediately after the wedding / whatever else'.

i.e. shown that, with all good intentions no doubt, their choices have contributed to the situations they found themselves in.

Because they are the victims of misinformation, they don't produce any themselves 😉😂

“Please Netflix come and do a six part series documenting our amazing new lives and every aspect of what we do - but strictly on our terms”.

Doesnt work like that.

Also @limitedperiodonly I genuinely cant tell if you’re being sarcastic or not when you thank people for appreciating journalists. Literally no one has given a strong, or otherwise, opinion on journalism on this thread

Also Netflix are not journalists. They create content and in this case a documentary (allegedly). And having worked in a similar field I know that journalists to expect to go into people’s homes to interview them.

That does not, of course, mean they have to let any and every journalist in, but it does suggest a slightly different approach to privacy than 'no one comes in unless it's my mum, the plumber or the police with a warrant'

@Sigma33 of course. I was making a joke. They're never very good but it's a habit of mine.

Last night during our discussion about Harry and Meghan someone suggested that because they had given an interview once to Oprah, they would be obliged to talk to journalists forever more. This was nonsense and I don't remember who said that but I'm sure it wasn't you because you wouldn't be that silly.

Nevertheless it's great that you've repeated an important point of mine. Unless it's an emergency no one has to speak to the police or HMRC or similar unless they have a warrant.

I don't know why you selected this from one of my posts but you zeroed in on one of my most heartfelt ideals . Don't let people bullshit you.

People can never be told this enough. They get intimidated by people talking all kinds of crap about the law but they shouldn't because lots of people talk bollocks. You just have to look it up. It's shocking but there we are.

For the avoidance of doubt no one has to speak to journalists. Not even you. I thought we'd left it in a civilised manner last night but if you want to talk, I'm listening.

Now you're just being rude so crack on reading stuff into what I said that I never said.

@BringBackCoffeeCreams if you have no answer just stop replying and people will forget

I genuinely cant tell if you’re being sarcastic or not when you thank people for appreciating journalists

@LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet do you want hand signals?

I can think of one particular hand signal if you like?

As an enquiring mind, why do they have to be connected? People can be interested in different things. Surely a journalist who reported on the Ukraine war can equally write about Hillary Clinton's affair with the pool boy? And as a reader, I'd be interested in both.

@LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet just the one?

Hilary Clinton had an affair with a pool boy?!

@MarshaMelrose I didn't know about Hillary's alleged affair with the pool boy. Sounds interesting. Is it there any basis in fact or is it just salacious gossip?

But I agree with your principle. It is perfectly possible to have an interest in high and low brow matters and all things in the middle. I do. I just wish people would be honest and truthful about their love for it too. And be honest and truthful about their expertise in the law and journalism. It's unlikely to happen but I can dream.

What disappoints me most is insults like questioning people's reading comprehension like @BringBackCoffeeCreamsor saying the predictable: "If you don't know I'm not going to explain...". I'm not terribly wounded but it's not necessary. Why not admit like me that you have an interest in the work of Russian journalists but also like Mumsnet Meghan and Harry slagfests?

Just own it @BringBackCoffeeCreams. That's why we're all here. Well, that's why I'm here. That and to ask why are you on a Harry and Meghan thread and what is it in your mind that connects them to Vladimir Putin?

That and to ask why are you on a Harry and Meghan thread and what is it in your mind that connects them to Vladimir Putin?

But where have you got the idea she thinks anything "connects" them?

I’m really fucking confused by the challenge of ‘what connects H&M and Vladimir Putin’. It’s like a question on one of those channel 4 comedy quiz shows. Except it’s being asked with no context at all and apparently with view that people have an ax to grind about journalists? Or they don’t - I’m still not quite sure.

It's not confusing,. We're all on this thread because we're all interested in Harry and Meghan. That's all

Yea, we are. Well done.

What’s that got to do with Vladimir Putin? Or the hate/love for journalists?

Back in February H&M wrote on the website of their Archewell charity: 'Prince Harry and Meghan, The Duke and Duchess of Sussex and all of us at Archewell stand with the people of Ukraine against this breach of international and humanitarian law and encourage the global community and its leaders to do the same.'

So my 'Only Connect' answer is: they've all been widely ridiculed for making bewilderingly grandiose statements about a country in which they have no business interfering.

They really shouldn’t make political statements in the name of Sussex. Totally goes against everything the RF stand for.

But hey what Meghan wants Meghan gets

One of MM’s former staff who left due to bullying has spoken to the Times about how the RF needs to respond and needs to publish the independent enquiry into her behaviour. I am a nosey fecker and would LOVE to read those results!

@LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet did you miss it? If you want to look up the exchanges between me and @BringBackCoffeeCreams it's all there. She hasn't bothered replying to me so it's probably not worth your trouble either. If she does you and @TruestRepairman are welcome to join in. I warn you now to manage your expectations. I've talked to people with a stronger grasp of things.