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To leave dh alone with the baby all day tomorrow without telling him

179 replies

reddyt · 01/12/2022 23:21

Dh has gone to sleep in the spare room after our argument tonight, which I have told him I hate!

To top it off, this now means he gets a lovely nights sleep & I am left to do night feeds alone!!!

Im honestly thinking tomorrow i will take our other ds to school, then swan off to the shops or somewhere, leaving him with the baby & not telling him.

I am fully aware this is probably a childish response but this is just where I'm at.

Do it? Or don't do it?

OP posts:
Feef83 · 02/12/2022 15:52

Melloyellow1983 · 02/12/2022 15:27

@Feef83 what you’re dismissing as childish, drama and tension is anger. Anger is normal and needs to be expressed. People don’t know how to deal with anger and conflict because it is judged and dismissed heavily in our society.

The OP is entitled to her anger. It is normal. Arguing is normal. Trying to get someone to understand you and empathise is normal - giving them a taste of their own medicine is a strategy. Children witnessing anger and arguing is totally normal. They need to learn that it is a normal, uncomfortable emotion that you may need to be creative to work through.

I suspect that the posters judging the OP aren’t very adept at dealing with anger and conflict in their own lives.

EXACTLY

anger needs to be expressed

this is flouncing out the house in a huff.

will achieve nothing

Melloyellow1983 · 02/12/2022 16:06

@Lockheart that’s a giant leap you’ve made about me. Not sure how you twisted that from what I posted. If you saw my pp I advised the OP she let her OH know that she was going out.

There is no way to have a perfect, healthy conflict. There are two people with differing needs so what is is needed and respectful for one person can be invasive and disrespectful for another. It’s about communication and compromise which is very hard to do when you’re angry. It’s normal to get it wrong.

With a few tweaks the OPs strategy is a timeout that is very healthy. She came on here to vent and figure things out. To insinuate from the information shared that she and I are abusive and unhealthy is just weird.

Lockheart · 02/12/2022 16:18

Melloyellow1983 · 02/12/2022 16:06

@Lockheart that’s a giant leap you’ve made about me. Not sure how you twisted that from what I posted. If you saw my pp I advised the OP she let her OH know that she was going out.

There is no way to have a perfect, healthy conflict. There are two people with differing needs so what is is needed and respectful for one person can be invasive and disrespectful for another. It’s about communication and compromise which is very hard to do when you’re angry. It’s normal to get it wrong.

With a few tweaks the OPs strategy is a timeout that is very healthy. She came on here to vent and figure things out. To insinuate from the information shared that she and I are abusive and unhealthy is just weird.

I was mirroring your own wording back to you. It's not a personal assumption, although your initial one that posters were not adept at dealing with anger was.

Melloyellow1983 · 02/12/2022 16:59

@Lockheart there is nothing in your post that mirrored my wording or reflected the meaning of what I said.

No one can adeptly manage their anger. That’s a fact, not a judgement. It’s not a stretch to think that posters responding by dismissing and judging the OP are likely to do that to expressions of anger in their own lives. I help people manage their emotions and conflicts for a living. I have had years of training and therapy to do this. I am pretty adept at helping others manage their anger. Am I adept at dealing with my own anger? Hell no. No matter how many changes and strategies you put in place you can’t side step how triggering anger and conflict is.

I don’t judge others for grappling with their anger. I actually respect the OP for publicly expressing it and don’t think people should be so quick to judge her for not expressing anger perfectly when it is impossible to do so.

PenelopeStrawberry1 · 02/12/2022 17:01

Whilst I agree it's not a good idea for the OP to go off for the day without telling her DH, I find it depressing that so many on here are ignoring the fact that OP's DH just went off and slept in another room, leaving her to be the default parent, and are just putting the boot into OP.

There doesn't seem to much criticism about her husband, and just accusations of OP being 'childish'.

JFDIYOLO · 02/12/2022 17:03

Stop behaving like a pair of sullen stroppy teenagers. You are the adults, with children to care for and be their role models and guides to life. Plan and have a polite, civilised, adult conversation that has the family's welfare at its heart.

Phelicity · 02/12/2022 17:17

Having carefully read your contributions to this thread Melloyellow, I would avoid anger management and conflict resolution therapy at all cost. I’d prefer to find my own strategies, and they wouldn’t involve provoking further conflict, anxiety and potential risk to a child’s welfare.
That doesn’t mean that the answers lie in suppressing anger, far from it, but there have to be more positive and mature ways of dealing with issues like this one.

Feef83 · 02/12/2022 17:17

No one can adeptly manage their anger.

**I am pretty adept at helping people manage their anger”

So which is it @Melloyellow1983 ??

Feef83 · 02/12/2022 17:18

The OP’s “expression of anger” was to start a thread on an anonymous chat forum and ask whether she should flounce off to the shops after drop off without telling her DH

Jux · 02/12/2022 17:38

Let him know you're going to be out a while, by text, sure.

Someone asked why should you be the reasonabke one? Well, someone does have to be otherwise things spiral. That doesn't mean you can't be angry, or you can't take some time out -of course you can. It does mean that in time of conflict, someone has to be the adult, and that may be you this time and him another.

Take your time out. When your anger is gone - luckily, we're actually talking about rage here and that will probably ge gone by morning anyway - then you can talk. That's the key. When you can talk without getting enraged again you can sort out what he did and why it's not acceptable to you.

Melloyellow1983 · 02/12/2022 17:41

@Feef83 they’re two different things. Both are true. I can be adept at helping people manage their anger and not expect them to be able to manage it healthily every time. Because it is very difficult to do so.

@Phelicity thanks for the advice. Ill look into a career change

Melloyellow1983 · 02/12/2022 17:43

@Feef83 also, flounce is so sexist! As a previous pp. where’s the outrage at the DH ‘flouncing’ off?

Feef83 · 02/12/2022 17:54

Melloyellow1983 · 02/12/2022 17:43

@Feef83 also, flounce is so sexist! As a previous pp. where’s the outrage at the DH ‘flouncing’ off?

🙄

Feef83 · 02/12/2022 17:56

Melloyellow1983 · 02/12/2022 17:41

@Feef83 they’re two different things. Both are true. I can be adept at helping people manage their anger and not expect them to be able to manage it healthily every time. Because it is very difficult to do so.

@Phelicity thanks for the advice. Ill look into a career change

So not not possible to manage every time

whereas before you said it was “fact” that people can’t manage their anger

you’re getting yourself in a twist here @Melloyellow1983

Phelicity · 02/12/2022 17:59

Not so much “advice”, more a gut reaction Melloyellow to the idea that the OP’s proposed strategy, if acted upon, would be a healthy expression of her anger. However, today is another day and her anger has hopefully burnt itself out by now, and the couple have resolved their differences without having to resort to anything drastic. Let’s hope so.

PenelopeStrawberry1 · 02/12/2022 18:22

Phelicity · 02/12/2022 17:59

Not so much “advice”, more a gut reaction Melloyellow to the idea that the OP’s proposed strategy, if acted upon, would be a healthy expression of her anger. However, today is another day and her anger has hopefully burnt itself out by now, and the couple have resolved their differences without having to resort to anything drastic. Let’s hope so.

Well, I think the OP's DH's action of disappearing to sleep in the spare room was 'drastic'! Or is it only drastic behaviour if a woman does something?

Melloyellow1983 · 02/12/2022 18:30

@Phelicity no, I didn’t say it was healthy. I wasn’t bogged down with the healthy thing. Other posters are using the healthy thing as a stick to beat her with. I offered that with a few tweaks - such as letting him know she was going to go out for the day and having a proper conversation after her day away - it could be seen as a time-out which is a very healthy part of anger management. I did say all this in the posts you read

@Feef83 I said no one can adeptly manage their own anger. I completely stand by that and haven’t contradicted myself. I didn’t say no one can manage their feelings of anger, ever. There are too many factors involved in conflict and anger that are out of our control for anyone to be able to respond in the ‘correct’ way every single time. It’s impossible. I can develop the healthiest strategies and maintain them for month, even years then one cross word from my mother brings me straight back to feeling and acting like a teenager

CarefreeMe · 02/12/2022 18:30

Leaving a baby without letting the other person know is a terrible idea.

Imagine he assumed you took them all out and then went out himself or something.

Leave him to look after the kids all day by all means but he needs to be told.

Has he ever snuck out and left without you knowing?

Phelicity · 02/12/2022 18:32

I really don’t know how to answer that one Penelopestrawberry as it bears absolutely no relation to anything I’ve said.

PenelopeStrawberry1 · 02/12/2022 18:59

Phelicity · 02/12/2022 18:32

I really don’t know how to answer that one Penelopestrawberry as it bears absolutely no relation to anything I’ve said.

You said that hopefully the couple have resolved their differences without resorting to anything drastic, which means that a) you are glossing over/ignoring the fact that the OP's husband buggered off to sleep in the spare room leaving her to deal with the baby and b)you are saying that OP's plan was 'drastic' but that was her DH did was not drastic

Conkersareback · 02/12/2022 19:09

@PenelopeStrawberry1 going out all day and not telling a partner is drastic.

DH buggard off to another bedroom, OP could've taken the child to him, I'm still struggling to understand the reason why she couldn't have just taken the child to him, if he didn't get up. What about being in the other bedroom means he couldn't deal with the child.

But OPs idea is a much bigger step than that.

Phelicity · 02/12/2022 19:24

Penelopestrawberry, yes, I said “hopefully the couple have resolved their differences without resorting to anything drastic”. The rest of what you wrote is a figment of your imagination.

PenelopeStrawberry1 · 02/12/2022 20:29

If someone posted on here saying their husband had gone off for the day leaving them to do childcare and not saying where they'd gone there would almost certainly be posts on here saying 'Bless him, men need their space' or 'parenting doesn't come naturally to me'. But because it's a woman she's akin to the devil

PenelopeStrawberry1 · 02/12/2022 20:35

*parenting doesn't come naturally to men

ConnieTucker · 02/12/2022 20:38

How did today go?

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