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To ask what other SAHP do to fill their time

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doyoumindmeasking · 19/11/2022 14:35

I'm a SAHM and just wondered what other SAHP do to fill their days.

My children are at school 9-3. I do drop offs and pick ups, cooking, cleaning, shopping etc.

But in terms of other stuff not much. I'm going to try to pick up an exercise class 3 x a week.

It can get a bit dull.

I've tried a part time job but it's just not practical with my husbands work and age of our children.

OP posts:
Autumnnewname · 19/11/2022 18:41

azimuth299 · 19/11/2022 17:52

I'm really surprised to see such sneering responses on here. Work that has been historically delegated to women has always been undervalued. I definitely don't have a lot of free time. I don't know if this will help or not, but here's a "typical" day for me:

6am Wake up, get dressed, clean kitchen
6.30 Make lunches, prep clothes and school bags, make breakfast for the children
7am Wake kids up, get them fed, showered, dressed etc (one is disabled and needs a lot of help)
8.15 Walk to school
8.45 Drop off children, walk to shop
9am Grocery shopping
9.30am Walk home
10.15am Get home, have breakfast, shower, get ready for the day
11.15am Load of laundry (which involves walking five minutes to the launderette and back three times, to start it, swap it to the dryer and collect it) - will do this over the course of the next few hours.
11.30am Tidy the house, do some cleaning
1pm Lunch
1.45pm Life admin (so meal planning, scheduling appointments, writing emails, big things like tax returns, ordering in if the children need something for school or a club, if they've outgrown clothes, checking on elderly relatives and friends having a hard time, minor home alterations, to do list items etc - I never reach the end of these!
2.15pm Walk to school
2.45pm Pick up children, walk home
3.15pm Ferry to after school clubs and play dates, supervise homework, listen to reading, craft activities etc.
5pm Start dinner
6pm Have dinner, family time (possibly a game or a walk)
7pm Bedtime routine, tidy up
8pm Children go to bed, either spend time with husband, do a hobby or carry on with life admin tasks.
10pm I go to bed

And this is before the constant meetings with the school, doctor and dentist appointments, children off sick, random inset days, sick bugs that leave me with huge amounts of laundry etc., which happen at least once a week but usually 2-3 times a week, and put me behind. I'm not able to work for several reasons (no childcare for disabled children, visa issues, expense of childcare, erratic obligations during the day) but I don't see how I'd be able to fit in a job anyway.

Maybe the sneering is jealousy

I'm certainly jealous. I had to work full time and bring up children. Alone. And one is disabled

So I think I'm allowed to sneer

Notplayingball · 19/11/2022 18:41

DistantSkye · 19/11/2022 17:21

Oh I can't imagine how it all gets done 😂😂😂😂
9-3 is a massive chunk of time to do what most people manage to fit in around work.

Ah but I also class some of this time as respite as I have two children with additional needs so need to rest when I have the chance. Also have chronic health issues.

Grass isn't always greener 🤷

NCHammer2022 · 19/11/2022 18:46

DistantSkye · 19/11/2022 18:37

That'll hopefully be me next year! At the moment I am PT at work but have my youngest at home when I'm not at work.

Next year I will hopefully have the luxury of a Friday morning when all kids are at school and I'm not at work... I mean sometimes I might do the housework. But sometimes I might have go to the gym, or have a coffee and read, or even have a nap!

It’s amazing! I spent pretty much the first 4 or 5 of those days luxuriating in doing absolutely nothing but how I’m getting pretty much all the food shopping/meal planning/life admin/laundry done for the week on that day and it’s freeing up at least an hour a day of evening time that we would have otherwise had to spend on boring stuff.

felded · 19/11/2022 18:46

I don't have an issue with a parent staying at home, my mum did. DH completely pulls his weight despite having a "better" job & we can afford things that make our live easier but I don't like the narrative that a woman (because it generally is) has to facilitate a man working.

As I said my mum never worked but she wasn't doing childcare & chores; she had lots of help & my dad was very hands on.

CautiousOptimist · 19/11/2022 18:47

I am in nearly the same position (one at preschool 4 days a week, 2 at primary). I do charity work, volunteer at school, meet friends for coffee and a chat, life admin, errands like Christmas shopping, shopping for the kids etc, DIY and decluttering at home, painting walls in the house, gardening, visiting family occasionally.
Never enough hours in the day, I feel like I could fill double the time tbh!

DistantSkye · 19/11/2022 18:48

Notplayingball · 19/11/2022 18:41

Ah but I also class some of this time as respite as I have two children with additional needs so need to rest when I have the chance. Also have chronic health issues.

Grass isn't always greener 🤷

You are right... The grass isn't always greener and 2 kids with asn, plus your own health issues is a lot to deal with.

Tbh that comment was probably just jealousy/bitterness on my part as I don't really get any respite/downtime. My job is quite stressful, my husband works long and unpredictable hours and there isn't much time in the week when I'm not at work, looking after my kids, or supporting my mum looking after my terminally ill dad/offering respite etc. Im tired!

azimuth299 · 19/11/2022 18:49

I can see a lot of posters saying that they really struggle to fit everything in, get everything done and work full time. That's really understandable, and it makes a lot of sense that they might see someone who isn't doing the work bit and feel really hard done by looking at someone who "only" has the non-work bits to do and is still claiming to be really busy.

I suspect that this is a bit comparing apples to oranges - I might have no paid work to do, but maybe you have a car and a washing machine and a second income and a supportive grandparent and children who are healthy and don't need a lot of extra input (care needs, medical appointments, school appointments etc.).

If you have such a strong emotional reaction to someone that you perceive as not working as hard as you then maybe that's your gut trying to tell you that you would benefit from making changes in your time allocation? Rather than telling an internet stranger that they shower at the wrong time and that their husband is going to leave them?

DancedInClover · 19/11/2022 18:49

Why is anyone having to justify how they spend their time as a SAHM. OP asked what others do and when posters have commented, they’ve been questioned and told they could do it another way.

SAHMs don’t need to justify how they spend their time to some random working mum on mumsnet. ‘I can fit in so much more than you’...good for you, who cares.

Ilovemycatalot · 19/11/2022 18:49

I do 3 days a week 8-6.30 I have a teen dd. That’s a good balance I think.

felded · 19/11/2022 18:50

@azimuth299 why don't you have a washing machine? that would be very hard with dc

azimuth299 · 19/11/2022 18:52

felded · 19/11/2022 18:50

@azimuth299 why don't you have a washing machine? that would be very hard with dc

They aren't that common where we live, especially in flats. People either have shared laundry rooms in the basement of the buildings or just go to the laundromat.

BetterBeGryffinphwoar · 19/11/2022 18:52

I'm a bit confused tbh. I'm a sahm due to the fact we'd be worse off as I work due to my profession being so underpaid and undervalued.

Admittedly Ds doesn't qualify for any nursery subsidies yet, so I'm looking after a toddler 24/7 but my day kind of revolves around him.

I know how important the early years are and if D's was at nursery he'd have to be provided with experiences to help him meet the eyfs goals, so I structure my time around that. That obviously means I'm facilitating and interacting with him, providing experiences etc so I don't have free time.

I kind of go on the philosophy of what would a paid childcare worker be expected to provide?

I do housework when I set up independent play in the same room, I cook with him and try and keep the house habitable, it keeps me busy enough.

If I had the luxury of nursery hours, unless it was literally 30 hours, I'd probably fill it with the housework I have to do a.bit slap dash whilst entertaining a toddler.

With all due respect, I'm not sure you can describe yourself as a sahm if your time is freed up to the extent you are bored by childcare.

I'd classify you as a housewife, which is a very different thing.

But you've provided people with a perfect opportunity to bash sahms. I don't judge, envy or feel superior to my working friends. If I do my job properly, it should all balance out. I do wish those of my friends who want to be sahp could do so, but just as it makes sense for me to do my own childcare, financially they are better off in work.

ArchieStar · 19/11/2022 18:53

KatherineofGaunt · 19/11/2022 18:39

Hi fellow Rebel! 👋🏻

Oh my days another rebel yay!! Hello!!

felded · 19/11/2022 18:56

@azimuth299 ok

DistantSkye · 19/11/2022 18:56

@azimuth299 my point was that I don't struggle to fit everything in despite having a job so I don't understand why you'd find it a struggle to fit it all in with 6 spare hours a day. I'm busy but not struggling particularly. However you are right in that having 2 incomes, a car and a washing machine probably frees up some time (although as I mentioned above, no supportive grandparents here so the childcare situation is all on me and DH and nursery!)

You are right though, in that people just have to manage their own lives and figure out what works for them.

AlwaysLatte · 19/11/2022 18:57

We're both SAHPs and it's surprising how busy we are! Both in various groups connected to our hobby (some we run) so that takes up a fair bit of time. Various Governorships/local groups, high energy dog, small amount of livestock and lots of taxi-ing children to their various activities and school, gardening etc, plus support for elderly parents can take out a day in one go. I think we're both busier than when we were working!

DancedInClover · 19/11/2022 18:58

Autumnnewname · 19/11/2022 18:41

Maybe the sneering is jealousy

I'm certainly jealous. I had to work full time and bring up children. Alone. And one is disabled

So I think I'm allowed to sneer

You think you’re ‘allowed to sneer?’ I mean, you can, but its not a great thing to do really is it. And does it help? Nope. Your life is still the same, except maybe you make someone else feel shit and probably yourself in the process.

Notplayingball · 19/11/2022 19:01

azimuth299 · 19/11/2022 18:49

I can see a lot of posters saying that they really struggle to fit everything in, get everything done and work full time. That's really understandable, and it makes a lot of sense that they might see someone who isn't doing the work bit and feel really hard done by looking at someone who "only" has the non-work bits to do and is still claiming to be really busy.

I suspect that this is a bit comparing apples to oranges - I might have no paid work to do, but maybe you have a car and a washing machine and a second income and a supportive grandparent and children who are healthy and don't need a lot of extra input (care needs, medical appointments, school appointments etc.).

If you have such a strong emotional reaction to someone that you perceive as not working as hard as you then maybe that's your gut trying to tell you that you would benefit from making changes in your time allocation? Rather than telling an internet stranger that they shower at the wrong time and that their husband is going to leave them?

I shower around 1pm when all four DC are in school - it's "my time". I understand you also have your busy schedule too. It isn't easy.

AlwaysFullOfQuestions22 · 19/11/2022 19:01

I wfh but choose hours. I can do as little or as many as i need provided the work is done.
I tend to get it all done of an eve or maybe 1 morning. Then rest im basically a sahm.
I cook. Clean, shopping, see friends, see dm or dsis.
I run out of time most days. I just seem to fill them

KatherineofGaunt · 19/11/2022 19:04

ArchieStar · 19/11/2022 18:53

Oh my days another rebel yay!! Hello!!

I'm sure there are more than just us on here!!

EarringsandLipstick · 19/11/2022 19:11

@azimuth299

And maybe some of us don't ... have the supportive spouse, help from GP, or finances to outsource some of the tasks. (As I outlined in my post)

I don't have DC with disabilities and I recognise it must be v hard.

I do not have any axe to grind about the choices others make, as I've said.

My point to you is your inability to see that regardless of the reasons you chose not to work, you have have a very significant amount of time each day to do tasks that working parents have to do too, but without that dedicated time available.

As for wishing I could make a change, as you say, yes, I do. I wish I was in a happy marriage & not separated, I wish my children's father took responsibility & was there for his kids, I wish I'd an alternative to bringing kids to sports every single day (I do, strictly speaking, but it's important to them so I do it).

So at the moment, there's no change possible. And with all that's going on, working is still the single most important thing to keeping my identity somewhat intact.

EarringsandLipstick · 19/11/2022 19:12

DancedInClover · 19/11/2022 18:49

Why is anyone having to justify how they spend their time as a SAHM. OP asked what others do and when posters have commented, they’ve been questioned and told they could do it another way.

SAHMs don’t need to justify how they spend their time to some random working mum on mumsnet. ‘I can fit in so much more than you’...good for you, who cares.

It's when SAHP say 'they couldn't possibly fit in a job' that working parents respond testily

crossstitchingnana · 19/11/2022 19:18

As soon as my youngest went to school, after three weeks of catching up with stuff, I was bored out of my mind. Started volunteering and was working within 6 months.

caroleanboneparte · 19/11/2022 19:19

Exercise- the gym and jogging
Driving and running errands
Shopping (don't do online shopping if it can be avoided)
Appointments
Go to cafes
Go on MN
Reading
Writing
Sorting house
Doing a course
Reading the endless emails
Budgeting
Self care
Planning eg diary, Xmas, birthdays, travel
Talking to relatives
Keeping in touch with friends

Notplayingball · 19/11/2022 19:20

My GP has asked me to focus on my mental health first and foremost due to the stress of family life looking after children who have additional needs. Doing paid employment would just push me right over the edge.

Some of us are just about coping each day.