Goodbye Monarchy, as is

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that’s it really. I’m not fussed about the ‘king’ -
happy to downgrade the entire system.
the jewels, the palaces, the changing of the guard belong to the country, and/or people … if Charles buggers off we keep all the tourist attractions, and all that people say makes the royal family worth while ££
now the Queen has gone, the ‘firm’ needs to go
done with them. AIBU?

Why does it always boil down to a them against us mentality? The Queen mum was of Scottish descent and HMQ made a big effort to include all the nations. She loved Scotland most of all.

You're getting confused about being interested in something compared to supporting something. Harry and Megan are celebrities, young people will be interested. Not only that people have always been intrigued what goes on behind closed doors in the Palace so of course it'll fly off the shelves.

Even me, very much a republican, would be interested to read Harry's book. I wouldn't actually buy it, but I'd read it.

Soft power.

Whether that remains to the same extent the Queen had remains to be seen - and certainly even with her it didn't exist to the same extent it did - but imo the key benefit the royal family brings is international soft power.

It's why Charles going to COP27 or not was such a issue.

I often think I'd vote to do a away with them if I could. But I also wouldn't underestimate their ability to stay. As an institution they have twisted and turned and survived much. Including us getting rid of them once.

I wonder (but have no evidence for) if this is a bit like voting Conservative. As in, the older you get the more likely you are to support the RF.

So those voting against them at 20 years old may have a tendency to vote for them by age 50, for example. Rather than sustain anti RF views as they age.

I have no idea if that's true, but just musing.

It’s not necessarily here to stay. It needs to be popular with the general public in order to survive. And although the figures are in favour of having a Monarchy currently, I think that’s largely to do with inertia on the public’s part, rather than an active vote for them ifyswim.

I don’t think Charles is very popular tbh and so far, it is not very clear what he is doing about slimming the institution down. And it does need streamlining and modernising radically.

I feel rather sorry for Charles tbh as the Queen has left all the hard decisions to him. As we have seen in Denmark, slimming down an organisation when it Involves your own family and your own grandchildren is not easy.

The whole shebang is very toxic for the individuals involved. Imagine your brother being able to determine your career path and salary? And your son and daughter in law being more popular than you and your wife?

Imho it will only take a couple of events like another marriage failing or some other scandal to emerge involving sexual abuse or money mismanagement and the whole thing will blow.

Tbh I think both Charles and Camilla look as though a truck has hit them since he took the throne. We’ll see if they are up to the job or not but he’s had long enough to prepare, there isn’t much room for error.

I thought it was strange that one of the first stories we heard about Camilla, Queen Consort, who famously dislikes flying for work, was that she had gone on a well-being retreat in India. I think we understand why she may have needed a holiday, but their PR people need to do better than that, especially in these days of austerity. Both Charles and Camilla need to be seen hitting the ground running.

I reckon there will be more discussion about the advantages of having a republic as the coronation approaches. I’m hoping so anyway. I think the way it embeds privilege at the heart of our society is very damaging and the honours system has been discredited. Liz Truss is drawing up an honours list right now after only 44 days in office and nearly trashing the country economically. It’s a joke!

It must be said that King Charles is notably uncharming isn’t he?

I’d prefer to be a republic but monarchy isn’t a “throwback to empire”. We had kings long before there we had an empire. Same is true globally.

They’re a load of irrelevant unnecessary nonsense really - tabloid fodder the Daily Heil readers. If they didn’t exist we wouldn’t invent them now.

None of the remaining royals are very interesting

I've voted for years and not got the result I wanted. It doesn't make me feel better that they're a shower of shit that I technically had a say in it. The idea of some of the idiots we've had in charge representing us in state events in far more embarrassing than King Charles would ever be in public.

And you're actually saying our politicians aren't over-privileged. Boris Johnson? Matt Hancock? Jacob Rees Mogg? Do me a favour. Our royal family have sacrificed far more for us than any of these buffoons. They've also contributed more. The ones I've mentioned have just enriched themselves at our expense and not contributed anything back, if anything making things worse. You only have to go to a public event to see people's reactions. At the Olympics, Cameron got booed when he was shown on the screen, they had to switch to something else.

We'd lose a lot of the income from abroad. A lot of the attraction for visitors from other countries (especially the US) is the fact that we still have a monarchy. So there goes most of the €s and $s. Even the amount of income generated in this country would probably drop because some people would lose interest once there was no longer a monarchy.

And technically, the current Priminister and Truss were not elected by us.

Our royal family have sacrificed far more for us than any of these buffoons. They've also contributed more

Imagine believing this.

We'd lose a lot of the income from abroad. A lot of the attraction for visitors from other countries (especially the US) is the fact that we still have a monarchy.

No it’s mainly the castles, palaces, soldiers and history. Have you never seen the figures for visitors to Versailles? Or the changing of the guard in republics?

I'm watching The Crown from the beginning..

Loving it, brilliant acting and helping me with the history of a dramatised version of the Royal Family.

Same time thinking, what a bloody pantomime that has no place in modern Britain where kids go hungry now in 2022. What a disgrace.

And people still claiming UK is 5th richest in the world. Economically maybe. The class system is alive and thriving.

We live in a society where celebrity is worshipped and you only have to see the huge turnouts whenever the Royals do a meet and greet to understand their popularity with people of all ages.

YANBU not to want a monarchy, but YABVU to think it's going to somehow jusr die out just because lots of people think it should. I mean... how do you think that's actually going to come about?

Surely most tourists don’t actually see any of the royals when they’re here. They come to see the palaces and the jewels and the history and all that stuff. We don’t have a Titanic anymore, but people are still obsessed with it. I imagine it would be pretty much the same with the RF.

I’m not bothered about the royal family either and was very anti royalist when I was younger. Then I saw how much joy they bring to some people and who am I to say that should be eradicated?
If everyone in the country was for a republic, I’d support it. While ever their weddings, funerals and other special moments are attended by thousands of cheering crowds, I’m happy for them to stay.

How can anyone possibly know this?

In the latest poll only a third of 18-24 year old supported the monarchy. Source

Good God. You really think the general public could choose a better leader?? Some pompous person with loads of money? Honestly, we can't even pick a decent prime minister.

Leave the Royals alone. We're good thanks

He was when he was POW. He isn't noe because he can't, because he's the King.

In the latest poll only a third of 18-24 year old supported the monarchy. Source

Who cares what they think? Unless they're planning on overthrowing the monarchy, it doesn't matter. Not gonna happen

Actually they have huge power, constitutionally, but they just don't use it. Power to declare wat, sign treaties, make appointments. This power all belongs to the monarch, but they delegate it to the PM - so no PM is ever going to work to abolish the monarchy, because that would mean the PM losing all these informal, personal powers.

I agree, the system is archaic, and all these peroged powers should be taken from the monarch and given to parliament, and the monarchy quietly downgraded, but it wont happen.

The people who suffer most from this are the royal family itself - what sort of life had Charles had? He had basically been held to ransom for 73 years! Its inhuman

You only need to look at the outpouring of support/‘grief’/respect shown to the RF in June and Sep this year to realise they aren’t going nowhere.

I for one, am pleased.