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Cleaner had her DC there with her today

461 replies

changinglanesagain · 11/11/2022 18:14

I've had my cleaned for about 3 months. She's really good. I really like her work

Anyway, I gave her a key last week and today I popped home for lunch unexpectedly. She had her DD there with her...

Apparently it's a teacher training day for them and so her DD had to come too. I asked why she couldn't reschedule to do another date or even better, come this evening?

She said she couldn't come this evening due to her DS coming home, he's disabled, and she'd just much rather not let me down for my allocated day so thought she'd just being DD along

I said okay... and that was that

AIBU to think she should've asked my permission first?

So not to drip feed, she was sat at my dining table doing colouring and had a few toys out

OP posts:
America12 · 12/11/2022 12:05

changinglanesagain · 11/11/2022 18:17

I just think she should've asked me first, that's all

Seems odd she wouldn't ask for my blessing and just not mention it at all if I hadn't showed up

Why ? Sounds like she knew her daughter would just sit colouring ? Can't see the problem

Tessabelle74 · 12/11/2022 12:40

@Butchyrestingface brilliant 😂😂

LightDrizzle · 12/11/2022 14:14

mycatisannoying · 12/11/2022 00:29

If one of our cleaners had asked as a one-off I’d almost certainly have said yes but pointed out we have a few house rules: food eaten at the table only no feet or shoes on furniture.

Yes, one can't be too careful with the commoners.

Your assumptions say more about you than me. Cleanliness and house rules are not class markers. Shock horror not all households have the same rules. As I say in my post we have friends whose children run riot in their own and others houses. We don’t have feet on our sofa, DD1 does have feet on her sofas.

A lot of these posts are so patronising and infantilising to cleaners.

EmeraldShamrock1 · 12/11/2022 14:56

I cannot understand why you didn't pay her?

thesurrealist · 12/11/2022 15:05

somethingdifferent789 · 12/11/2022 11:59

The world is hard enough for working mothers. She didn't let the child run riot in your house, she was just sat colouring in whilst her mum got on with her job.
I think you probably embarrassed the woman by questioning her about it. At least she won't bring the child back now you have made it clear your not happy.

So if you come into your own house and find a kid there who you didn't invite or want in the house, you just have to accept it?

Bugger that.

My house is extremely child unfriendly as is my dog - whose house it also is. No fucking way would I allow anyone's random child to set foot into it, cleaner or not.

It's just completely insane to expect people to put up with this kind of thing.

Mamai90 · 12/11/2022 15:06

I had a cleaner when I was pregnant anemic and couldn't barely walk the length of myself.

She brought her son here a few times and didn't ask. I'd never given it any thought until you mentioned it, I didn't even realise it was a 'thing'. So yes, YABU and sound very uptight.

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Kanaloa · 12/11/2022 16:57

America12 · 12/11/2022 12:05

Why ? Sounds like she knew her daughter would just sit colouring ? Can't see the problem

The problem is that you shouldn’t bring your child to work if you don’t know the client will be happy with that.

SillieSarah · 13/11/2022 18:37

Kanaloa · 12/11/2022 16:57

The problem is that you shouldn’t bring your child to work if you don’t know the client will be happy with that.

The cleaner either brings the child to work… or she doesn’t work.

want a clean house, or don’t want a clean house?

Kanaloa · 13/11/2022 20:47

SillieSarah · 13/11/2022 18:37

The cleaner either brings the child to work… or she doesn’t work.

want a clean house, or don’t want a clean house?

It doesn’t work like that. The op is free to set terms as she likes - if the cleaner wants to bring her child with her to play in the house while she works she is of course free to decline op as a client as their needs don’t meet.

Honestly, I don’t know why people are acting like op is being ridiculous. In no other line of work would you expect to be able to bring your child into client’s homes without their knowledge and somehow cast them as the bad guy for ‘questioning’ you about why an uninvited child is playing unsupervised in your home.

FurAndFeathers · 13/11/2022 20:49

Kanaloa · 13/11/2022 20:47

It doesn’t work like that. The op is free to set terms as she likes - if the cleaner wants to bring her child with her to play in the house while she works she is of course free to decline op as a client as their needs don’t meet.

Honestly, I don’t know why people are acting like op is being ridiculous. In no other line of work would you expect to be able to bring your child into client’s homes without their knowledge and somehow cast them as the bad guy for ‘questioning’ you about why an uninvited child is playing unsupervised in your home.

Had the OP set those terms?

it doesn’t appear so

claudiasfringe33 · 13/11/2022 20:50

thesurrealist · 12/11/2022 11:58

I have a grumpy elderly dog here who is scared of children, so there's absolutely no way I would allow this in my house. I'd have asked her to leave and come back when she didn't have the child with her.

The child was sitting quietly at the table drawing not having a rave 🙄

Kanaloa · 13/11/2022 20:56

FurAndFeathers · 13/11/2022 20:49

Had the OP set those terms?

it doesn’t appear so

If you’re asked to come and clean someone’s home, the terms are that you come yourself and do that. If you want to bring your child you should ask. If you want to change the original terms you should ask.

Conkersareback · 14/11/2022 06:44

Butchyrestingface · 12/11/2022 11:37

Yes. She was cleaning the guest room when I came in, and her DD was downstairs unattended

Have you counted the spoons? 🥄🥄🥄

GrinGrin

thesurrealist · 14/11/2022 17:46

@claudiasfringe33 I have a cleaner and she has children. I do not have children and I have a house and a life that is very child unfriendly.
However, even if I lived in a soft play it still doesn't mean that my cleaner gets to decide to bring her child into my house without my permission - which I wouldn't give because of the child unfriendliness of my house and the fact that I do not want children in my house at all. That's my right as the person who owns the house. If my cleaner objected to that then she can not provide me with her services and I will go to any number of other cleaners and cleaning companies in my area.

ConkerBonkers · 14/11/2022 17:49

Watch Maid on netflix. Any luck, it will be a real eye-opener for you. Good day

magma32 · 14/11/2022 17:52

No I would not be ok with it. It just lacks boundaries and then I’d think what next. If she’d asked first that’s a different matter. I’m sure nobody here would turn up at work with their dc without letting work know their predicament first. Not sure why it’s different for cleaners. When you start letting professional expectations slip people really do take the mick, cleaners or otherwise.

mathanxiety · 14/11/2022 18:10

Yes, YABU. What harm did the child do?

Rescheduling isn't as easy as you may think it is. You're probably not her only client. She very likely works in certain areas on given days to cut down travel time and petrol use. Having her travel an extra five miles to get to you on Thursday instead of Monday would cost her and also possibly mean she would have to spend less time cleaning somewhere else.

Pipsqueakpopsqueak · 14/11/2022 18:13

Have you ever had a shit boss? Don’t be that person. It’s fine.

ButterCrackers · 14/11/2022 18:17

Yanbu she should have asked you first. You would have said yes but it’s the asking that counts. Say to her that next time she must ask you before she brings anyone with her to her cleaning job at your place. I’d check on insurance in case of accident or damage.

mathanxiety · 14/11/2022 18:17

@SandyY2K

Quite.
The inset days are on the school calendar.

Maybe she had childcare arranged and the person she was relying on pulled out at the last minute?

She has a disabled DS and maybe she didn't want to send the daughter to the home of a relative or friend if they had tested positive for covid or a D&V bug? Maybe she can't risk the loss of income that would occur if she got the lurgy from her child?

mathanxiety · 14/11/2022 18:23

To all those calling the OP an employer amd trying to make hay out of the 'workplace' argument...

She's not an employer.

She's a client of the cleaner.

Tessabelle74 · 14/11/2022 20:53

@mathanxiety actually it's a very grey area, look at UBER for example. If you have regular work with the same person and they pay you into the bank, legally they can actually be classed as an employer and you an employee

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 14/11/2022 20:59

ConkerBonkers · 14/11/2022 17:49

Watch Maid on netflix. Any luck, it will be a real eye-opener for you. Good day

For or against bringing the child? I had a lot of sympathy for the cleaner in made and the childcare struggles but she completely betrayed the clients trust drinking her wine, wearing her clothes etc which completely ruined it for me.

SillieSarah · 15/11/2022 20:54

mathanxiety · 14/11/2022 18:23

To all those calling the OP an employer amd trying to make hay out of the 'workplace' argument...

She's not an employer.

She's a client of the cleaner.

The place of work is the clients home/property so they have full control.
i work from home in my pjs and will not change. Employer can’t force me to put on clothes.