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Cleaner had her DC there with her today

461 replies

changinglanesagain · 11/11/2022 18:14

I've had my cleaned for about 3 months. She's really good. I really like her work

Anyway, I gave her a key last week and today I popped home for lunch unexpectedly. She had her DD there with her...

Apparently it's a teacher training day for them and so her DD had to come too. I asked why she couldn't reschedule to do another date or even better, come this evening?

She said she couldn't come this evening due to her DS coming home, he's disabled, and she'd just much rather not let me down for my allocated day so thought she'd just being DD along

I said okay... and that was that

AIBU to think she should've asked my permission first?

So not to drip feed, she was sat at my dining table doing colouring and had a few toys out

OP posts:
Conkersareback · 11/11/2022 21:16

Maybe they needed the bank details first? The offer could have been 'if you like i'll transfer the money if you let me have your bank details', and OP is awaiting the reply.

Maybe should've just paid in the agreed format? Oh no the employee must ask and accept change....

Greyarea12 · 11/11/2022 21:17

Oh god.. you remind me of some of the horrible managers I have had.. you know, the ones on a power trip who see you as below them! If I was your cleaner I wouldn't be back.

HikingforScenery · 11/11/2022 21:17

4/ or 5? I wouldn’t be comfortable with them being left in your home unattended tbh.
I wouldn’t think of doing this without asking the client or just letting them know.

Blossomtoes · 11/11/2022 21:18

PressOn · 11/11/2022 20:48

Are the people on here that are bothered by this concerned that the child may go in your jewellery box and get your pearls, as then you’d have nothing to clutch?

😂

CheeseIsMyPatronus · 11/11/2022 21:19

She's managed her workload, kept her daughter quietly busy and cleaned your house.

YABVU, she's done nowt wrong.

Conkersareback · 11/11/2022 21:20

SandyY2K · 11/11/2022 21:09

@mam0918

YANBU... wtf is wrong with people here.

My thoughts exactly. Just goes to show they have a lack of courtesy themselves.

The crux of this is everyone know you dont invite someone into someone elses house without permission, that just the very basic of manners.

You'd think it was obvious wouldn't you. My brother always says common sense isn't that common unfortunately.

I would expect to be asked and I could decide if I'm okay with it, or tell her not to worry and leave it to next week.

I don't need my brother to listen to, I can make my own mind up!

"My brother says" GrinGrinGrin

Conkersareback · 11/11/2022 21:21

HikingforScenery · 11/11/2022 21:17

4/ or 5? I wouldn’t be comfortable with them being left in your home unattended tbh.
I wouldn’t think of doing this without asking the client or just letting them know.

So If they asked, them left them alone it would be ok?

What's the difference?

Stationsofthecross · 11/11/2022 21:25

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SillieSarah · 11/11/2022 21:26

changinglanesagain · 11/11/2022 19:23

My cleaner once turned up with her daughter, and said it was good for her to see what happened if you didn't work hard at school!

That's awful. My cleaner was a specialist nurse before becoming a cleaner to fit around her disabled DC

I just wanted a heads up, that's all

And you are still being a c?

she’s doing a job that’s way beneath her so she can provide for her kids. She’s a trained nurse and doing an untrained job. She’s providing you with a fantastic service.

instead you want to put obstacles her in her way? Just let her be

SandyY2K · 11/11/2022 21:33

@StripeyMow

I don’t think you’re an ogre. But if you have found someone you trust, maybe give her a call (late morning when she’s done the school run), have a chat and set clear boundaries that work for both of you. If she’s not reasonable then you are right to have doubts, though my bet is she will be grateful that you are so supportive.

This is very wise and sensible advice.

It takes a lot of trust to give someone the keys to your home. Many people wouldn't even give family members a key. Allowing another person in, without permission, would be a violation of that trust for me.

fluffi · 11/11/2022 21:36

Your cleaner should asked in advance.

I wouldn't want an unsupervised 5 year old in my house either, what if they got bored or started nosing around, they should have been in room being cleaned at least so they were supervised properly.

Personally I would struggle to trust cleaner again. But I'm not very trusting and wouldn't have a cleaner (or anyone else) in my home doing work for me while I was out anyway.

Itstarts · 11/11/2022 21:36

YANBU

I wouldn't mind the dd coming, but she should have asked first.

MN is peculiar at times. If this was a wedding thread, a well know family event, you would guarantee it would be 100% in agreement you don't bring children without a specific invitation. But for a job, well know situation for NOT taking children along, it's mostly disagreement?

Dotcheck · 11/11/2022 21:36

There are so many posts like this.

I can’t afford a cleaner, but if I could, and I was in your situation, I would be happy to enable someone with young kids to be able to continue working when situations like that arose

Sparklingbrook · 11/11/2022 21:38

Conkersareback · 11/11/2022 21:16

Maybe they needed the bank details first? The offer could have been 'if you like i'll transfer the money if you let me have your bank details', and OP is awaiting the reply.

Maybe should've just paid in the agreed format? Oh no the employee must ask and accept change....

So many maybes...

EmeraldShamrock1 · 11/11/2022 21:40

She might sack you.

Good cleaners are hard to come by, similar to sporadic childcare.

I'm sure she felt awkward she was caught out but needs must at times.

user1471548941 · 11/11/2022 21:40

We allow our cleaner to this this- we think she’s great and love her work so absolutely fine with us- her DC have some health problems so often off school and just come and sit on the sofa and play on a device. She leaves our house spotless and always goes above and beyond so we want to be flexible in order to keep her!

However- she does always let us know if she needs to do it!

Queenbeespellcker · 11/11/2022 21:42

Yanbu
I wouldn't have minded unless she had behavioural issues.
she should have asked first tho!

Conkersareback · 11/11/2022 21:43

@Sparklingbrook so many maybes started by..... you Grin

Sparklingbrook · 11/11/2022 21:45

Conkersareback · 11/11/2022 21:43

@Sparklingbrook so many maybes started by..... you Grin

And…..you. Grin

What I was getting at is that in the abscence of clarification from the OP we don’t know what’s going on with payment. 🤷‍♀️

SeeYouNextTLol · 11/11/2022 21:46

Clymene · 11/11/2022 18:19

OMG she was sitting at your dining table? Colouring? A cleaner's child?!

ShockShockShockShockShockShockShockShockShock

Do you realise what a crashing snob you sound??

😂😂😂

Lostoldusername · 11/11/2022 21:46

Yes she probably should have asked you and I'd expect the same courtesy if it was my cleaner (although to be fair, if i could afford a ckeaner, she could bring her whole family with her!) however if there was a child colouring and doing no harm then I couldn't allow myself to get worked up about it.....bigger fish to fry and all that

Skodacool · 11/11/2022 21:50

Childcare is probably the reason she does cleaning. She could get a better job - and I expect she will before long.

SeeYouNextTLol · 11/11/2022 21:51

FFS clean your own shit if you are such an arse.

LightDrizzle · 11/11/2022 21:52

@SwaffhamCurious

“Non issue.

Side note - I’m perplexed by the ‘no feet on furniture’ rule in a pp’s house. Must be quite a skill, sleeping with your feet carefully dangled over the side of the bed. Presumably in those little sterile plastic foot-bags.”

Ah! Maybe it’s just me but I have sheets and duvet covers on my bed that are frequently washed whereas my velvet sofa can only be steamed and feet are oily and leave marks on the nap. We have a washable throw on the sofa if people want their feet up but I wouldn’t expect an 8 year old to work that out.

Conkersareback · 11/11/2022 21:52

What I was getting at is that in the abscence of clarification from the OP we don’t know what’s going on with payment. 🤷‍♀️

The agreement @Sparklingbrook was that op was to leave payment.... come on catch up!