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To not want to give lifts with baby in the car

381 replies

alwaysfrazzled · 06/11/2022 13:11

My baby is four months old and is a nightmare in the car. She screams the place down and always drops her dummy which upsets her even more. If I need to go anywhere in the car I make it short journeys and if I have to go anywhere longer than ten mins I always go with someone else in the back.
Sister in law is in hospital and needs a lift home. She stays a half hour drive away so that's an hour round trip.
She would have to sit in the back with the baby but it won't stop the screaming, on the way home would be a nightmare. I hate driving with constant screaming.
I don't want to do it. Would I be unreasonable to suggest she gets the bus home?
My partner is working away so not home to help. Her mum is on holiday. Nobody else can drive her home. Nightmare.

OP posts:
girlmom21 · 06/11/2022 16:56

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 06/11/2022 16:50

I don't think the baby should go but it's hard to believe there is no neighbor, fellow school mum, or other person available who could watch the infant for a while.

The baby's only 4 months. I wouldn't leave a 4 month old with a random school mom or neighbour.

Kanaloa · 06/11/2022 16:57

been and done it. · 06/11/2022 16:37

Not sure much comfort and support would be available with a screaming baby sat next to her. She's having AB infusion.

The comfort of knowing you’ll step out of the hospital to a friendly, familiar face? Be able to get home and have a cuppa with a relative? Not having to sit at a bus stop waiting when you’re obviously unwell enough to be kept in hospital. It’s a bit sad if you really can’t see any way a relative picking you up when you’re ill would bring someone comfort.

Fraaahnces · 06/11/2022 16:59

Since they’re not the sort of family to pitch in to help you, I don’t see why you have been volunteered to drive with a screamy baby. I’d say that it’s simply not possible.

thelobsterquadrille · 06/11/2022 17:00

Kanaloa · 06/11/2022 16:57

The comfort of knowing you’ll step out of the hospital to a friendly, familiar face? Be able to get home and have a cuppa with a relative? Not having to sit at a bus stop waiting when you’re obviously unwell enough to be kept in hospital. It’s a bit sad if you really can’t see any way a relative picking you up when you’re ill would bring someone comfort.

Would you really feel comforted knowing you'd forced your SIL to collect you with a screaming baby in the back seat? And then knowing that once you were home and settled, she'd have to do the same journey home again?

JennyNotFromTheBlock · 06/11/2022 17:01

Kanaloa · 06/11/2022 16:57

The comfort of knowing you’ll step out of the hospital to a friendly, familiar face? Be able to get home and have a cuppa with a relative? Not having to sit at a bus stop waiting when you’re obviously unwell enough to be kept in hospital. It’s a bit sad if you really can’t see any way a relative picking you up when you’re ill would bring someone comfort.

So you also expect the OP to hang around and have a cuppa, too, when she has her newborn with her, and children to pick up from school? It's a bit sad if you thing to do to a mother of a newborn, when if SIL wants a friendly face why doesn't she ask her best friend to pick her up, and not expecting this mother of a newborn to inconvenience herself and other road users, for a woman that is well and is being released.

A 'friendly face' might be nice, but when it means you are inconveniencing a mother of a newborn and risking other road users, it is an unacceptable thing to ask. And she is being released from hospital, so she's well now.

girlmom21 · 06/11/2022 17:03

workingeverysingkeday · 06/11/2022 16:39

This might be controversial but I'd give her some calpol so she sleeps on the journey

Apparently MNHQ no longer delete dangerous medical advice.

It's controversial because it's an outrageous suggestion. You can't medicate a baby so that they sleep without proper advice. That's a disgusting suggestion and I hope you don't have children.

Theydoyaknow · 06/11/2022 17:03

JennyNotFromTheBlock · 06/11/2022 16:56

Why? I took a bus home from my 5.5 weeks IV/PIC line antibiotic Sepsis stint in hospital, mine took 1 hour 10 mins (I live rurally), in fact, it never occurred to me not to. Yeah a taxi is more direct, but a well person being released from hospital should be able to take a bus. Even a train.

Bully for you!

Can't wait to see you on the Pride of Britain awards!

LargeHadronCollidHER · 06/11/2022 17:04

JennyNotFromTheBlock · 06/11/2022 16:50

SIL doesn't 'need help' @gogohmm is well enough she is being released from hospital, and can call a taxi like everyone else released from hospital does. OP, the baby's own mother, tried sitting in the back, she said so if you read her replies on here. It did not help. SIL needs to stop being so selfish she is putting out a mother and 4 month old newborn baby, and call a taxi. It's really that simple.

How do you know she is well enough?

People are discharged from hospital not ‘well’ every day. As many recover at home, in fact in many cases hospitals won’t release until someone picks you up.

You sound incredibly miserable

LargeHadronCollidHER · 06/11/2022 17:05

girlmom21 · 06/11/2022 17:03

Apparently MNHQ no longer delete dangerous medical advice.

It's controversial because it's an outrageous suggestion. You can't medicate a baby so that they sleep without proper advice. That's a disgusting suggestion and I hope you don't have children.

how is it dangerous?

Calpol is hardly crack cocaine

TartanGirl1 · 06/11/2022 17:05

OP why ask when you clearly made up your mind before you posted?

Were you just after validation?

Tonkerbea · 06/11/2022 17:05

Of course that's the nicest option, and I think most families like to help each other out, but life often means you have to suck it up and take the harder option. I don't see why the onus should be on OP and a young baby to have a really tricky hour for the sake of SIL looking into other transport options. Or why can't MIL alter holiday plans or can one of SIL's friends ferry her about?

girlmom21 · 06/11/2022 17:07

@LargeHadronCollidHER do you know the implications of prolonged use of ibuprofen/paracetamol etc? On a young baby, giving them medication multiple times a day is highly to cause irreversible organ damage.

JennyNotFromTheBlock · 06/11/2022 17:07

LargeHadronCollidHER · 06/11/2022 17:04

How do you know she is well enough?

People are discharged from hospital not ‘well’ every day. As many recover at home, in fact in many cases hospitals won’t release until someone picks you up.

You sound incredibly miserable

They don't release you if you are still in Active Sepsis. It's a safeguarding issue and a legal issue on behalf of the hospital.

If pointing out that it is selfish to expect the mother of a newborn baby to risk her baby's health and the lives of other road users for a CFing chancer who can call her best friend, a tax or a bus, I'll be proudly miserable and know I stand for fairness, safety and responsibility, not miserable CFing chancers.

LargeHadronCollidHER · 06/11/2022 17:08

girlmom21 · 06/11/2022 17:07

@LargeHadronCollidHER do you know the implications of prolonged use of ibuprofen/paracetamol etc? On a young baby, giving them medication multiple times a day is highly to cause irreversible organ damage.

Prolonged being the key element there

Once for a trip to get SIL isn’t prolonged use of anything

Calpol barely has any of the good stuff in it anymore either!

girlmom21 · 06/11/2022 17:09

@LargeHadronCollidHER ok so it's fine to drug your baby against medical advice if it's to help other people?

JennyNotFromTheBlock · 06/11/2022 17:09

Why should OP have to dose her newborn baby on Calpol, just to pick up SIL who has other options? People on here are beyond crazy.

LargeHadronCollidHER · 06/11/2022 17:09

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Kanaloa · 06/11/2022 17:10

JennyNotFromTheBlock · 06/11/2022 17:01

So you also expect the OP to hang around and have a cuppa, too, when she has her newborn with her, and children to pick up from school? It's a bit sad if you thing to do to a mother of a newborn, when if SIL wants a friendly face why doesn't she ask her best friend to pick her up, and not expecting this mother of a newborn to inconvenience herself and other road users, for a woman that is well and is being released.

A 'friendly face' might be nice, but when it means you are inconveniencing a mother of a newborn and risking other road users, it is an unacceptable thing to ask. And she is being released from hospital, so she's well now.

Well, in my family, yes. It would be entirely normal to collect someone and spend a bit of time with them to make sure they’re ok when they’ve just be released from hospital. And on the flip side, when I’ve been unwell, perfectly normal (and much appreciated) for them to collect me and spend a bit of time with me. I don’t thin that’s an outlandish expectation, whether the person has a ‘newborn’ (four month old baby) or not.

But I have said multiple times that op shouldn’t feel obligated to go - just as long as she is aware it will likely have an impact on their relationship, because you’re unlikely to move yourself quickly to act as a babysitter or helper to someone who heard you were getting released from hospital, knew you had nobody to call on, and said ‘get the bus.’ It’s fine to be more self- centered as long as you balance that by being extremely self-reliant.

Kanaloa · 06/11/2022 17:11

And I don’t think it’s a ‘sad thing’ to ask someone to do. It’s a normal thing to ask of someone. Normal families do these things, and ask these things for each other.

JennyNotFromTheBlock · 06/11/2022 17:11

@LargeHadronCollidHER The baby screams until it vomits/chokes.

No one can drive safely when a baby is screaming in that state. It's a risk to other road users.

It's clear you're not a driver. The pity is all for you, the bitterness towards me for pointing out that it's not sensible, says more about you and your support of CFing chancers than it does about me.

marble11 · 06/11/2022 17:12

JaniceBattersby · 06/11/2022 14:43

I’ve had four car screamers and I just wanted to express some solidarity with all those people reading this thread who may be feeling really upset by all the patronising comments like ‘make sure the baby has a toy attached to the car seat’
or ‘you have to just make the baby get used to it’.

My babies all screamed for hours and hours in the car. They never just fell asleep. They just made themselves sick and overheated. I’ve tried everything including sitting in the back, breastfeeding the baby in a moving car etc. The only thing that made a difference was turning them around at the lowest legal age possible.

It made all four of my maternity leaves absolute hell. I couldn’t see any of my family who live three hours away. Even going to the local shop was distressing. I spent many hours sobbing my way through car journeys along with my babies.

Honestly, it won’t be like this forever

Mine are grown up a bit now and the biggest problem I have is getting them to look up from the iPad in the car..

It couldn't have been 'hell' because you had 4 kids 🤣

Just stick earplugs in or better still stick the kid in the boot.

JennyNotFromTheBlock · 06/11/2022 17:14

Kanaloa · 06/11/2022 17:10

Well, in my family, yes. It would be entirely normal to collect someone and spend a bit of time with them to make sure they’re ok when they’ve just be released from hospital. And on the flip side, when I’ve been unwell, perfectly normal (and much appreciated) for them to collect me and spend a bit of time with me. I don’t thin that’s an outlandish expectation, whether the person has a ‘newborn’ (four month old baby) or not.

But I have said multiple times that op shouldn’t feel obligated to go - just as long as she is aware it will likely have an impact on their relationship, because you’re unlikely to move yourself quickly to act as a babysitter or helper to someone who heard you were getting released from hospital, knew you had nobody to call on, and said ‘get the bus.’ It’s fine to be more self- centered as long as you balance that by being extremely self-reliant.

And you don't see why it is unreasonable to expect this of a mother of a newborn with children in school, when she can ask her best friend or find other transport? You really think SIL being so self-centred is a good thing? What SIL is asking of OP is simply not reasonable, she is being self-centred and a CF. Why encourage that behaviour.

LargeHadronCollidHER · 06/11/2022 17:16

JennyNotFromTheBlock · 06/11/2022 17:11

@LargeHadronCollidHER The baby screams until it vomits/chokes.

No one can drive safely when a baby is screaming in that state. It's a risk to other road users.

It's clear you're not a driver. The pity is all for you, the bitterness towards me for pointing out that it's not sensible, says more about you and your support of CFing chancers than it does about me.

Of course I drive

You are clearly very bitter, and have said you’ve had to get out of hospital and take public transport, seems you’re one of those people who thinks ‘if I have to suffer why shouldn’t others’

You don’t seem to understand the workings of a normal, healthy family dynamic, people often put themselves out to help others.

Im sorry that you don’t have anyone in your life to do that for you.

JennyNotFromTheBlock · 06/11/2022 17:16

Kanaloa · 06/11/2022 17:11

And I don’t think it’s a ‘sad thing’ to ask someone to do. It’s a normal thing to ask of someone. Normal families do these things, and ask these things for each other.

It is NOT a normal thing to ask of a mother of a newborn baby, with children in school to pick up. It is not normal at all. No decent person would ask OP in her situation, they would ask their best friend, a family friend, or take the bus/taxi. They would not want to put someone out. Only a CFing chancer who is used to being self-centred would have the brass neck to ask such a thing of the OP.

BabyClubYEEAAH · 06/11/2022 17:17

Have you tried baby in the front? My first screamed in the car until I moved her in the front with me and she never screamed then.