One of my direct reports is on onlyfans

[andreee]

I am so conflicted about what to do about this but one of the people I manage (a girl in her early 20s) does onlyfans and has a public p0rn Twitter account. Another colleague told me that they found her TikTok through her phone number, and the TikTok links to the Twitter page with the explicit videos, and that links to the onlyfans. The Twitter isn’t even under a pseudonym, it’s her nickname that she uses at work!

The issue isn’t that she has onlyfans as much as the fact that she is using her real life nickname and there are videos of her on a public Twitter account using various toys on herself with her face clearly visible! She has also posted a photo of her hand where she is clearly at her work desk at our office, asking her ‘fans’ to pay for her nails.

AIBU to even think about taking this higher up? My gut instinct was to say nothing and not get involved but if she is this blasé about it then a client might find out. We work in a field where public image matters and staff photos are on the website.

This is becoming really common. Women supplementing their income through OF. FFs do not tell HR, I don’t know how you would gently suggest to her to create a pseudonym for her business. Don’t destroy this woman’s life please. She is threatening her nine to five job and if she does lose this job making money in a saturated market of DIY porn is very hard (but doable). I don’t have suggestions but have worked in SE, never never used my real name because of shit like this and over invested colleagues.

No. Colleague is a stalker. Keep their mouth shut and grow up. Sex work is a real thing. We all fuck. Some of us like to get paid for it

I'd hate to be that person who goes to HR and who lost her, her job. There's enough people struggling at the moment, without plunging more into poverty.

Personally, I'd mind my own business and not go causing trouble for others.

MN likes us to believe that ALL women who do porn are forced to do it

Sounds like she must be that one a million who's actually doing it because she wants to

Obviously speak to HR! Not least because she was on her other accounts during work time, asking followers about her nails.

Sound advice.

Pay her better

Depends on company policy and what is written in her contract in regards to what is allowed on personal social media sites.

If I were you I wouldn’t be bothered in the slightest unless this was to seriously harm or jeopardise the business.

I can only imagine it to jeopardise the business if you worked in health/social care, with children or the government.

If the phone number linked to the profile is her personal one, not her work number then your colleague who searched and found her seems incredibly stalkerish.

Its completely up to you what you do next OP. Do you wish to humiliate and destroy a career of a young woman or are you genuinely concerned her actions are gross misconduct and could cause real harm to the business?

I would ask HR how to proceed. Otherwise it might be you looking for a new job if it gets found out that you knew and allowed to continue.

I’d approach HR. We’d count it as gross misconduct because of reputational risk to the organisation. I guess it depends what the substantive employer does and certainly depends on contract and code of behaviour.

It's a photo of her hand, not her foof!! As long as no work identifying paperwork or branding was in the photo, I don't think that matters.

@andreee for me it would depend on how well we got hot in, if well I'd speak to her, if not then HR IF you think clients would have an issue with it.

The problem for you here is that you now know and someone else in your management chain told you.

If you'd stumbled across it yourself then you could feasibly pretend you'd never seen it but the priority here is protecting yourself. Because if two people know already it will come out

I would email HR to say this has been reported to you and ask them to advise.

To just 'keep out of it' isn't really an option.

Fgs speak to the employee tell her to be more discreet with usernames etc and leave it at that. Let her know someone has easily found her and give her chance to resolve the issue before running to HR telling tales.

Quoting this one because it's exactly right.

Your personal feelings on this are irrelevant because if the shit hits the fan and you haven't told anyone you could get into trouble as well.

Either HR will say it's her own business and they don't care, or they'll conclude it's against contractual limitations on second jobs and kick off, or they'll conclude there's nothing contractual preventing it and take steps to make changes for the future so it can't happen again.

Keep your beak out. It’s nothing to do with you.

Absolutely take it higher. It’s insane that we’ve normalised this so much under the guise of “empowerment” to the extent that everyone and their Nan now does onlyfans. Why don’t people care about the consequences anymore? Who wants clients, colleagues family members and their kids teachers seeing them like that? It’s also likely we will now teachers in secondary schools able to be found by pupils. If she’s doing it at work that’s also disgusting and definitely needs reporting

Consequences of what exactly?

Well, it is really, because OP is her manager. She's been made aware of something that would not be welcomed by the company she works for, which is she said in "a field where public image matters and staff photos are on the website".

Depends on the job. If she’s a teacher, then yes, it needs addressing. If it’s affecting the business or potentially will reflect poorly on the business, then it needs addressing.

She'd have been sacked for gross misconduct where I worked. 100%.

Why are girls so naive that they think this is ok to do without hiding your true identity?

Could be doing her a favour learning a hard lesson this early on in her work life. Girl needs to grow up - and fast.

Report her. You can't not - you've been made aware of it. Pass on what you know and let HR deal with it.

There is no harm or malice in reporting it to HR. If the employee is breaching company policies, it's HR's job to tell her. If not, there's nothing they can (or will try to) do about it.
It will get around eventually and it might come out that OP knew about it.

I would report it to HR as this could back fire horribly against you. If it's discovered by the company later on and found out that you already knew and didn't report it. I would discreetly mention it to HR and leave it up to them what they do.

Is the colleague who is stalking her searching her phone number going to receive any sort of punishment/warning? I wouldn't be impressed if people I worked with were searching for me in this way, does it not strike you as odd that the colleague did this?

I'd say mind your own business, maybe pay your staff better so they don't need to do this sort of thing to top their wage up.

I can only assume that the people accusing the colleague of being a stalker don’t actually have social media.

I don’t have tiktok, but fb recommends people to me if I have them in my contacts. I had a recommendation for my line manager the other day based purely on the fact I have her number in my phone. It happens a lot, and people need to realise that if they’re going to do only fans and they’re going to do it publicly, then there is a real risk that all of their contacts, indeed even their family, parents etc, could potentialy be recommended their page on various social media platforms.

Companies absolutely do have social media policies, not just about this kind of thing, but about the kind of content people post, and I would imagine that a picture taken in work time, and more to the point on work premises would be deemed inappropriate.

It doesn’t matter whether the actual picture is inocuous. The picture has been posted to the same site where the woman is using sex toys and gaining payment for so doing. The implication is very clear, and it’s on work premises.

Many companies now look at your social media when you’re interviewed, and most employers wouldn’t touch a candidate with a barge pole who did only fans.

Is the colleague who is stalking her searching her phone number going to receive any sort of punishment/warning? I wouldn't be impressed if people I worked with were searching for me in this way, does it not strike you as odd that the colleague did this? since when was viewing someone’s face on a public profile where they’re happy to be found stalking.

It’s very easy to land on a page on tiktokk/fb etc which in turn would lead you to their sex page on only fans.

The instant she signed up to only fans there was a risk of this happening. She was stupid if she thought otherwise.