One of my direct reports is on onlyfans

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I am so conflicted about what to do about this but one of the people I manage (a girl in her early 20s) does onlyfans and has a public p0rn Twitter account. Another colleague told me that they found her TikTok through her phone number, and the TikTok links to the Twitter page with the explicit videos, and that links to the onlyfans. The Twitter isn’t even under a pseudonym, it’s her nickname that she uses at work!

The issue isn’t that she has onlyfans as much as the fact that she is using her real life nickname and there are videos of her on a public Twitter account using various toys on herself with her face clearly visible! She has also posted a photo of her hand where she is clearly at her work desk at our office, asking her ‘fans’ to pay for her nails.

AIBU to even think about taking this higher up? My gut instinct was to say nothing and not get involved but if she is this blasé about it then a client might find out. We work in a field where public image matters and staff photos are on the website.

No she’s just gen Z

Having a recognisable account on OnlyFans may or may not be inappropriate depending on what your work is. But I haven’t worked anywhere since the Internet became standard where using an NSFW site in work wasn’t written warning territory. This has applied to personal devices and Work devices. A photo taken in the office would also be a significant breach.

I don’t think this is something you can ignore. If you let her post, what are you going to say if others want to openly browse the site in the office? It’s totally inappropriate.

A photo of her hand 🙄 I doubt that's a sackable offence - she's hardly filming herself fapping in the break room is she for goodness sake?

Twitter suggests people you might know based on your phone contacts. The colleague may have found this account completely by accident.

Mind your own F business.

Nothing to do with you unless it brings the company into disrepute which it sounds as though it does not.

RE The one involving your work place, HR needs to be informed. The rest I think is up to her!! X

She’s in the office working on a sideline. Even without the sexual connotations of OnlyFans that’s almost always inappropriate without prior written permission. Given OnlyFans is generally a site which it is inappropriate to browse at work, accepting posting to the site risks creating a hostile work environment for most of the women in the office. It is not in the work places’ interests to allow it to continue. She can work on her side business off company property.

Mind your business, it's a photo of her hand ffs.

The problem here is that an employee has reported it to you.

So if you ignore it and it is against policy, when it all comes out later it could back fire on you if you knew and didn’t do anything.

I can imagine as she uses her own name or a name she is widely known by, it could be linked to your employer quite easily.

It may or may not be a breach of ethics depending on the nature of your work. It may or may not be theft of company time, depending if she was on the clock when said pic was taken. Is it possible the picture was taken before or after her shift, or during a break? This is definitely one for HR. Pass it to them and let them worry about it. If nothing else, you'll learn from HR what to do if this arises again. It will be interesting to know!

I think I would report it due to the listing during work hours and potential fir clients to find it.
My company have policies in place about having a second job, I think you need approval /to confirm there’s no conflict of interest /direct competition to the business (😂)
There’s also a code of conduct whuch she’d fail at. But it’s the ousting during work hours which is taking the piss.

@TiaraBoo yes, I was trying to remember the wording but that's it, declaring potential conflicts of interest. That will be interesting!

I think you shouldn't do anything. If she gets found out by HR then that's between them. It's not your job to snitch. Unless it was something quite wrong in the eyes of the law, morally or something that would endanger another person or children then yes say something. For this it's none of your business. And unless it's your own company, you owe them nothing highlighting this. And I say that as a company owner. I don't want to know about these things to be honest. It's up to her what she does.

Unfortunately that might not be true. Someone has reported to op, depending on the company she maybe obliged to report things like this.

If it comes out and comes out she knew, then she could face consequences.

You have you own company, so you may not view Op badly for not saying. But many companies would.

Then she needs to follow her companies protocol. It's not needed to be debated on. If there's no policy to declare this then you don't say anything. If the policy si to say and it will affect her job then she says something. There really isn't any other options imo.

Because it's been reported to you, you've got to do something as if anything comes out later then your team member could rightly say they passed the information to you.
Are you willing to have your own career compromised for this woman?

Speak to HR, explain factually what your team member has told you, and ask them what they would advise happens next, and get your information sharing in writing.

I work in HR.
If someone reported this to me I would have a conversation with the employee about secondary employment- out contracts forbid second jobs without express permission and about the potential to bring the company into disrepute recommending she use a 'stage name' and limits face shots to behind a paywall (clients won't admit to being pervs).

Dismissal could be risky depending on her length of service as I'd argue the response would be discriminatory based on her sex- would a man get the same treatment (someone will respond to say yes, but the reality is that men are held to different standards)

Does the picture she took at work identify the company you work for? If not I would keep out of it.

At our company, if you want to work a second job (even something self employed) we have to get permission from the CEO so they can make sure it doesn't conflict with the work we do and that it won't cause the person to not be able to do their day job. There is no way on any planet would they allow what she is doing.

Worth checking if you're company has a similar policy.

If what she is doing could potentially bring the company in to disrepute (even though she is not doing it 'for' the company) then it needs flagging. Absolutely fine for people to have secondary jobs etc but we aren't just talking about doing a bit of Avon or Tupperware here are we...

This exactly. You cannot ignore it now that it has been brought to your attention. The person who brought this unto your attention will likely tell others and it will come out that you also knew which could reflect badly on you.

Ugh I am sorry that she is in this position.
but you’ve had it reported to you OP so you can’t do nothing. You have a responsibility for employee welfare. Your company’s reputation is at risk. You’re lucky it was your colleague who reported this, not a client or board member.

You must have a social media policy in your workplace for employees to follow, surely? So there’s a clear line of what she has to follow in terms of being an employee and bringing the company into disrepute or not.
The same with any employee working on their side hustle on company time (the begging online for money for nails, identifiably while at work)

Most importantly, this kid is only 20 and she is doing porn in her real name with her visible face showing- she sounds highly vulnerable. I would really recommend that you ask HR to have a quiet safeguarding chat with her as she is making herself highly vulnerable to stalking, exploitation, blackmail now and into the future and god knows what else. If a male employee was making themselves vulnerable in the same way (with the same risks for the company too) you’d have a chat, don’t see this as a sexism issue.

Hopefully your HR department has a policy on social media use. She also shouldn't be on her phone during work hours doing a 2nd job.

I wouldn’t get involved and let the colleague who’s seen all of the photos sort it out.

Why did the colleague come to you instead of just going higher themselves?

The big question is where exactly was her hand when the photo was taken...

Seriously, go to HR, I don't understand how people can get to a position where they line manage others and still think it's acceptable to ask Mumsnet for HR advice rather than follow their own internal policies and procedures, or talk to their own HR Team.