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Don't flame me for this - just an observation

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qualitychat · 04/11/2022 19:14

I work in conveyancing and I have noticed a huge upsurge in people from England trying to sell up and move to Scotland. I know they will get more for their money up there but someone today and yesterday were total pissed off the Government. I am sure it works both ways and there is an influx to England but has anyone noticed a difference - particularly people from London especially.

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Luckydip1 · 04/11/2022 21:40

@Kissingfrogs25 rubbish, they would join the EU and get loads of handouts, a bit like Greece. EU would welcome Scotland because it knows it would soon result in England and Wales rejoining too.

Justanotherlurker · 04/11/2022 21:41

who the fuck do they think is going to look after them after they’ve priced everyone out? It’s a major problem where I live. English pensioners hoovering up homes and then expecting their arses wiped.

As the SNP is apparently more pro immigration than the UK then they could surely build more houses, only xenophobes/racists frame the argument in the way you have done?

Tarragon123 · 04/11/2022 21:41

Worriedddd · 04/11/2022 21:40

West coast so not as cosmopolitan as Edinburgh. Yes I've been asked how my pal Boris is when I last went to visit. I've never voted for Boris 🤣🤣🤣.

Eeeek! Move to Edinburgh then! lol You'd be very welcome 😁

Dreikanter · 04/11/2022 21:42

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You’ve just proved my point .

Well done you.

DemBonesDemBones · 04/11/2022 21:43

We've done exactly this!

StJeanDeVence · 04/11/2022 21:43

DH is Scottish. We'll be moving up to retire in a lovely city-centre flat in Glasgow. Everything on the doorstep for a fraction of the prices we'd be paying down here in the south-east. No brainer.

CherryPieface · 04/11/2022 21:44

Worriedddd · 04/11/2022 21:27

I considered moving to Scotland, my grandparents and my mum live there. I have an English accent as does my DD. I would move there but there's so much xenophobia because of my accent. Both sides of my family are Scottish heritage.

My husband has a brummie accent, lived here since 1997 and he’s never had a comment about being English. He loves it here (Glasgow) and we have loads of English, Welsh etc friends. Sorry if you’ve had a bad situation but it is NOT the norm.

Amortentia · 04/11/2022 21:44

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You clearly know hee haw about the Scottish economy. Anyway, if I was in England I’d be very worried about energy security if Scotland gets independence. We have 9% of the UK population but 83% oil, 60% gas and nearly 100% renewable energy. England is currently 20% short on electricity supply so has to import 10% from Scotland and the other 10% from Wales, NI and Europe. England and Wales are still heavy users of gas to generate electricity and there is no solution to this on the horizon, and they still burn coal for Christ sake!

oh, and as far as debt goes and our share we also get a share of the assets too, hth.

Halloweenshock · 04/11/2022 21:45

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Agree. I cannot believe the number of people living in Scotland that don’t have even the tiniest grasp of economics.

They truly do think that Scotland subsidises the rest of the UK!

They truly think that England will pay scotlands pensions after independence!

They truly think Scotland will walk away from the UK with no debts!

breath-taking ignorance! Just breath-taking!

the mini-budget gave a tiny peek at the havoc that would be wreaked on the Scottish economy should scexit succeed. With no central bank to bail them out it would be absolute devastation. What’s the point in a free bus pass when there are no busses? What will happen to the Scottish NHS when the government cannot afford to pay the drs and nurses? Engage brain and think!

Isitsixoclockalready · 04/11/2022 21:46

I'm English (well consider myself British) but can't understand a lot of these unsavoury comments about Scotland. Have we been invaded by right wing tabloid readers?

Justanotherlurker · 04/11/2022 21:47

rubbish, they would join the EU and get loads of handouts, a bit like Greece. EU would welcome Scotland because it knows it would soon result in England and Wales rejoining too

I hope this post is irony, if scotland has a problem with London 'dictating' some financial policies, them wanting to become Greece 2.0 just to say they are in the EU is a laughable premise.

Lack of critical thinking is banded around quite a lot, but this statement is meme worthy.

XingMing · 04/11/2022 21:48

The UK/England which funds the Barnett formula needs only to rescind it to throw Scotland's economy into deficit, at which point the EU which wants another needy nation like a hole in the head, would probably say no thanks.

arctica · 04/11/2022 21:52

Isitsixoclockalready · 04/11/2022 21:46

I'm English (well consider myself British) but can't understand a lot of these unsavoury comments about Scotland. Have we been invaded by right wing tabloid readers?

It's hardly a recent thing.

geraniumsandsunshine · 04/11/2022 21:54

@jennakong I didn't know that! Thanks

JoonT · 04/11/2022 21:55

Beanbagtrap · 04/11/2022 19:24

I would be tempted if it weren't for the safeguarding issues. Purely to avoid hot summers in the south of England!

Same here. I live in Essex, and summer was torture. Also, my home town is becoming unbearable. It’s so overcrowded, and developers are cramming houses (well, entire new estates) everywhere they can. As for the traffic, don’t get me started. I had two meltdowns in July. I was so overwhelmed with the heat and traffic that I literally sat at the kitchen table and sobbed. By late August, I was on Rightmove looking at house prices in Scotland. I dream of living in the Highlands, somewhere quiet, with space and silence and cool, rainy summers. If future summers are going to be like July and August, there will be a mass exodus from the south east of this island to the north.

XingMing · 04/11/2022 22:02

From Cornwall, the summer was blissful. Long warm days which I was happy to share. I love Scotland too, but I really wouldn't want to live there.

Justanotherlurker · 04/11/2022 22:02

Agree. I cannot believe the number of people living in Scotland that don’t have even the tiniest grasp of economics.

It is basically Brexit 2.0 but with an added anti english stance, they think they can pick and choose scenarios, keep using the pound, apparently have loads of oil and 100% renewable, all benefits will stay the same after the barnett formula is removed, quick entry into the EU (ignoring the fact that they actually said they would have to meet the requirements individually which would mean years)

Go look up the most extreme pro brexit and replace EU with British/Tory and you will see it in SNP arguments.

Igneococcus · 04/11/2022 22:04

I dream of living in the Highlands, somewhere quiet, with space and silence and cool, rainy summers.
You'll like cool and rainy summers a lot less after a miserable winter and spring, that is my prediction. I live in Argyll&Bute right by the coast and while I mostly like it, inevitably about March every year, I wonder what the feck I'm doing here.

Trez1510 · 04/11/2022 22:05

As a Scot I'm really enjoying being told how wee we are, how poor we are, and just how stupid we are by non-Scots.

No, seriously, I am.

I just wonder why non-Scots don't demand their own independence from the sponging Jocks? Why don't their masters want to offload the sponging Jocks?

Meanwhile, I'll just continue to thank the non-Scots for our free university tuition, free personal care, free prescriptions, free bridge tolls, free hospital car parking, carers' additional supplements, additional child supplements (£25 per child, per week), free bus passes for young people, and free baby boxes to welcome every new Scot.

I am specifically grateful due to the fact non-Scots deny themselves all of these things in order to provide them to us.

Thank you so very, very much.

StrataZon · 04/11/2022 22:05

alphasox · 04/11/2022 19:55

Maybe they’re exchanging one shit government for another but at least they’ll have a substantial family home with land and views instead of a pokey flat above a kebab shop on a busy A road. I can see why it’s tempting.

Have you seen the prices in much of Scotland? People thinks it's cheap but a lot of it really isn't.

DemBonesDemBones · 04/11/2022 22:06

@StrataZon I live in an 'expensive' part of Scotland and it's still ridiculously cheap compared to London!

Stephy1886 · 04/11/2022 22:07

Worriedddd · 04/11/2022 21:27

I considered moving to Scotland, my grandparents and my mum live there. I have an English accent as does my DD. I would move there but there's so much xenophobia because of my accent. Both sides of my family are Scottish heritage.

mive to the west end of glasgow. The accent there is a mixture of Scottish, English with some Americanisms thrown in

then you have Edinburgh which isn’t really Scotland now

jennakong · 04/11/2022 22:07

How are the Scots managing to fund elder care? Genuinely interested as it seems to run at £1000+ per week now for those needing nursing care.

XingMing · 04/11/2022 22:09

If it were purely my call, @Trez1510 I would have pulled all funding from Scotland a while back. Let wee Nippie use your bountiful innate wealth to fund everything.

icebearforpresident · 04/11/2022 22:09

This isn’t new OP, as a Scottish estate agent over 50% of prospective buyers I deal with are English and that’s been the case for the last 5 or 6 years.