To think you can only be glamorous if you are slim?

[frostytimes]

I just can't think of one large or fat person who I would consider classy and glamorous.
I can think of loads of larger women who I would consider very pretty or beautiful but not glamorous.
I am fat by the way so not trying to shake anyone, just sad that I'll never be glam!

Ok maybe not Mae West. Never less she was an amazing actress and one of my feminist icons

Weird, I associate the word glamorous with someone like Joan Collins. It feels quite overdone and old-fashioned somehow.

It's also a world away from elegance.

And 'classy'? I always find that such an odd word. To me, it seems to conjure up the very opposite of its perceived meaning. If someone says something/someone is classy, I mentally put it/them into the 'glamourous' corner.

Meghan Trainor & Marilyn Monroe. It’s about the attitude, not the dress size.

It depends I personally don't like the look of super slim . I think it looks really ageing especially on me. I think Nigella Lawson looks glam !!

I think Adele still looks great after the weight loss, but yeah I definitely agree she looked more glamorous when she was bigger. It might not have been her weight though, it may have been the type of outfits and makeup she chose to wear when she was bigger.

I think often larger ladies especially ones in the public eye feel the need to make sure they’re all dressed up compared to a size 8 woman who is comfortable getting seen in public wearing gym gear. Adele seems more casual nowadays. So actually I feel a lot of fat women are glamorous! Not sure if anyone has mentioned but Vanessa feltz can be quite glam too.

Lizzo looks so gorgeous there!

Think the issue with Marilyn Monroe is that someone decided she was a size 16. As you can see, she was clearly nowhere near a size 16, at least by today's standards. And I doubt she was considered remotely large.

@BagOfBollocks this was the clincher for me! Beautiful face and smile she has!

Not all women, fat or thin, are beautiful.

If you're not attractive you look in the mirror and see it.

This whole notion of 'reframing beauty standards so that every woman is beautiful' is so patronising.

If you're honest, though, she looks better thinner, doesn't she!!

I agree with the op

It's difficult to look glam when you are very big. I speak as a person who has been big

YANBU

None of the examples people have tried to name here or post photos of are glamorous to me.

@frostytimes As previously mentioned, elegance and glamorous have completely different meanings.

Definition of glamour
1 : an exciting and often illusory and romantic attractiveness

For me size has absolutely nothing to do with the above definition. Because really it is completely subjective. Who I find attractive someone else may not. I might look upon the same person that some see as glamorous and I do not see it. It is completely subjective.

elegance
/ˈɛlɪɡ(ə)ns/

the quality of being graceful and stylish in appearance or manner.

So, perhaps you meant elegant because it is difficult to move gracefully when carrying extra weight?

I’m overweight and I can definitely feel it affecting my movement.

😂😂😂😂 this made me laugh out loud 🤣

@StaunchMomma I don't really know her much bigger, I don't live in the UK so don't see her on TV that much. For me it was her smile that lights up her face in that photo.

That being said she's still a bigger lass and very glamorous. Sure she might not be glamorous all the time (who is?!) but I think she looks ace.

I think Ashley Graham is also a stunner, as is Queen Latifa.

i wouldnt class her as fat either

Opera Winfrey looked good at 237 pounds

Looking at Jennifer Hudson before and after photos she looks equally gorgeous in both

and I think Opera suited her before curves

I wouldn’t say they were glamorous.

Nice looking but not glamorous
Glamorous is about being tall, thin, having perfect posture and being well groomed at all times without a hair out of place.

Audrey Hepburn was glamorous.

I can’t think of anyone else I would label as glamorous

Another fatphobic disgusting thread. You no you weren’t born with these beliefs right? Where did they come from.why are you manipulated into this diet cultured society of thinking about sizes and weight in this way?
why do you link glamour to size?don’t just go with your automatic answer,really f ask yourself why you beleive this.it’s bullshit.
and it years of conditioning,misogyny,racism that’s grown us into this diet cultured world.

These women are not fat. Especially cardi B. It's not a good example.

We don't even need to list famous people. Have you been walking around with your eyes closed OP? There's plenty of fat pretty people.... does fat mean your not pretty?

Same for glam I see plenty of fat people down the street and some look nice.

Glamorous is about being tall, thin, having perfect posture and being well groomed at all times without a hair out of place.

So you don’t think petite women can ever look glamorous? What about Kylie Minogue?

Was watching housewives ( I know i know) but was struck how scrawny rinna was compared to the curvy Erica. Erica definitely more glam and elegant with her fuller frame. I've been thin and fat. Never been glam in either scenario lol