To think you can only be glamorous if you are slim?

[frostytimes]

I just can't think of one large or fat person who I would consider classy and glamorous.
I can think of loads of larger women who I would consider very pretty or beautiful but not glamorous.
I am fat by the way so not trying to shake anyone, just sad that I'll never be glam!

I warned you that we'd descend in to arguing semantics 😉

We'll have to agree to disagree on this one.

I agree with the OP

Still not seeing a single example of a plus size person I would consider glamororous

I have this dress which is glamorous to me. With my makeup and hair done. Size 16/18

Going by the examples on this list, "glamorous" isn't a good thing.

@User2145738790 agree… it apparently means tits out and red lipstick.

Christina Hendricks always looks glamorous, and her weight seems to fluctuate a fair bit.

Mariah Carey is about my age so 50 odd, like most people she's got bigger with age, if you Google recent pics in the last 5 years she is extremely glamorous (IMO) but not slim like 20-30 years ago.

The OP specified large and fat people therefore mentioning Sophia infers you think she is overweight.

The OP specifically mentioned slim people.

The inference was that only slim people could be regarded as glamorous.
My point being as I said that Sophia is to my mind the epitome of glamour and not especially slim.

Yabu

Bs most famous larger women and plenty of no famous too are the most glamorous of all! That this morning woman Alison wotzsername I think she looks absolutely fabulous and very glamorous lately stunning. Oprah is pretty glamorous at all times, Vanessa always glamorous, Ashley graham. Melissa Mccarthy always looks glam these days. Rebel thingummy whilst much slimmer now always looked glam when she was bigger youre talking shite!

Oh yeah Mary j Blige the epitome of glam itself so many to add

According to a series of recent threads, OW women can't look good in casual clothes, but can never look groomed and professional either. They don't look good in summer clothes, but nor do they look good in bulky winter ones. Now they can't be glamorous either. Is there any style, garment or look that OW can enjoy without someone saying they've failed at it? And being an OW yourself is no excuse for trying to drag other women down. If you personally can't achieve a look you aspire to, too bad. It doesn't mean other women can't.

I also don’t believe for a second that OP is fat

I get what you mean

Yes elegant, that's the word. I don't think fat women can ever look elegant. Only skinny/slim women.

It's a feeling.being beautiful.being glamorous.being gorgeous.its shines from you if you feel it.
So maybe we see less on fat woman because they like on this thread are made to feel sonfuckong shit about themselves they don't "look" it because they don't have the confidence to be it. We tell them they look shit and that will kill something inside and make someone shrink back.make their posture differ.make there clothes differ.make them hold themselves differently or walk differently.
Maybe if we stopped making fat people feel like shit.maybe we can accept that all bodies can be stunning.maybe if we STOP being a fat phobic diet culture thin obsessed society then ft woman can walk into a room and feel as gorgeous AS THEY ARE.
Because how can you possibly say they can't look glam, or let's face it you mean can't look good. What defines that.you.you define that by being brought up being told this.its a taught belief.
And it's f disgusting.

You can't look at someone and say they can't look glam.theres no rational reasoning behind that apart from your beliefs about sizing and weight.

I feel bad about this thread now. I think it stemmed from my own insecurities.

I didn't for one second mean fat woman can't be beautiful. I think there are many beautiful and pretty fat women. Many have been mentioned on this thread.

Although many more mentioned are in no way fat or overweight, just curvy and hourglass shaped.

I don't feel glamorous or elegant at my size, but maybe that is just me. I hope that's right. I think I'm just sad about being fat.

I think it’s easier to be glamorous as a larger woman, harder to be elegant / classy.

For instance, I’m a 16 and can pull off a low cut dress and glam makeup no bother. Don’t feel comfortable mind.

But when it comes to dressing in the style I like best (sort of elegant chic) I know I have to be careful with clothing styles and cuts, and something have to have things altered to fit ‘me’ a bit better. That style does suit slimmer people better but I make it work for me.

This is because we have been bombarded with models for decades that are size zeros and 6 feet tall celebrities that were perfect looking airbrushing and no mainstream normal or larger size models luckily this is changing and girls now are craving big bums ffs! When I was 18 I had what would now be a lovely curvy bum back then Kate moss style no bum was all the rage and I felt fat I wish I was that version of fat now! So what you need to do is start looking on sites like plt and underwear sites and see beautiful big models embracing their bodies and letting it all spill out in a bikini and whilst they are fat yes (large curvy whatever you want to call it), they look bloody amazing, their confidence shines through, a few years ago I would have looked at those women and thought God how could you wear that now I think wow they look fabulous. However I am not comfortable with my body either I suppose we all have a way we like to look and need to learn to embrace all body shapes and sizes

I know an Italian larger lady that is elegance personified. Immaculately turned out but it’s the way she moves, speaks and her manner, she is truly elegant.

@frostytimes Please don't feel bad about starting this thread, it has made many of us think about ourselves. Sometimes that might stir us but it is almost always a good thing. Read again what was said in the last reply by @Boiledpotatowitchbitch . She comments on herself and compares herself in everyday life to models posing to portray something special. Unfair comparison in my opinion.

@frostytimes try to find something you enjoy about your looks at any size. Baby steps will probably make you feel more elegant or glamorous.

It could be something cosmetic like a hair cut or really taking care of your nails or going to MAC and having a make over. Or you could buy different clothes styles from eBay and vinted to play around with what would look elegant on you and your body. Or you could connect with your body having massages or doing some other body work. If you want to lose weight you’ll be bringing all the knowledge about what makes you feel and look good with you.

It was a provocative post so inevitably there are some idiots on this thread, and others being a bit shoutier than they need to be because they honestly believe there are glam, beautiful, elegant women in different shapes and sizes. I hope you can take what you need from more positive posts and ignore the dross.

I actually think the opposite anyone can glam up, but it is easier when you’re slim to pull on a pair of jeans and a top, hair up in a ponytail and they still look great! Or even pull off sportswear.

I get it. People do it all the time about getting old too. Women over 40 can never look good in this or that. You'll never look as good as you did at 20 and so on. I know it's coming from a place of personal insecurity, but all it really does is become a pity party and drag other women down, when really we should be lifting each other up. I hope some of the responses on the thread have helped.