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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To think this man was patronisingly rude at work?

152 replies

FluffySlippers12 · 02/11/2022 21:23

Hi all, sorry in advance for the long post. I just wanted some thoughts on a strange occurrence I had at work today.
I’m a supply teacher. I returned to one of my long-term schools today to find that an agency TA has been covering a member of staff in my usual class. He seemed nice enough- at first that is. After the class teacher (who I was covering) left, he asked me several questions, including whether if I was usually in this class, am I on agency, how do I find that etc. I didn’t really think anything of it- these aren’t unusual questions in a school amongst agency staff etc.

However throughout the day he began to make unnecessary digs and rude comments towards me, that nobody else noticed. It started before break time when another staff member told him that the students’ snack list is stuck to the cupboard as she had to leave the class. Seeing that we were short staffed, I asked him if he wanted help preparing the snacks (this is normally the TA’s role but I’ve always offered to help if I’m not busy). He answered ‘Er, yeah?’ As if somehow in his head it was a no brainer and that it’s part of my role to help him. It isn’t and I was just being nice- which completely not only went over his head, but HE was rude when I offered him help- who does that? At the kitchenette area, since he was prepping stuff, I asked him who was having what. He proceeded to point to the list above the cupboard (that he had only just been told about himself) and said ‘the list is here- do you see it?’ When he did this, I got a very uneasy feeling. What was I supposed to reply to that? I could’ve made a sarcastic remark back but the truth is, I was completely blindsided and the passive aggressive attitude just came out of nowhere, I’d never met the man a day in my life and at that point I'd had no problem with him.

Other examples are, before break I tried to reach for a ball that was on top of the cupboard and he said ‘don’t worry about that’ and swiped it himself. Someone watching may have thought it was innocent and helpful enough but it seemed somewhat sexist- I’m a tall woman and would’ve gotten it a few moments later. I thought it odd that he said ‘don’t worry’ and did it for me rather than asking whether I needed help.

The last thing he said that was completely unnecessary was me suggesting that he make his way to his next class as it was time. One of my colleagues stated that we needed his help to get the kids to the next classroom so we could all go down together. He then added ‘that makes sense.’ AIBU to think that this man was unnecessarily rude and passive aggressive? I really don’t know what his problem was but it gave me the creeps that it seemed so targeted. I want to add that my colleagues really seemed to like him and one of them was even giving him compliments like ‘you’re a natural’ etc. which obviously wasn’t helping. They were oblivious. Towards the end I made up my mind to just dismiss him and avoid contact. The last encounter I had with him was opening the classroom door as he was about to make his way out. I was so p*ssed off by then that I just walked through it first. He then (again, passive aggressively) said ‘Can I get through the door?’- I completely blanked him as again it was an unnecessary comment. Just writing this I can’t believe this person’s behaviour. I was nothing but nice to him at the start of the day, probably too nice, which he possibly took for weakness.

The whole ordeal made me extremely uncomfortable and really reminded me of that dynamic you see in emotionally abusive relationships where one person is constantly putting the other down but no one else can detect it but them? It’s hard to explain. At first I just thought maybe he was a sexist or something but the class teacher had nothing but good things to say about him and it began to dawn on me that he seemed to behave this way after learning the information that I was also on agency and decided I wasn’t worth respecting, which is absolutely disgusting if true. I’m just really confused as to why someone would behave like this? Any thoughts or similar experiences with odd people and behaviours at regarding perceived hierarchies/status at work? Is there a name for this type of personality or behaviour because I’m so baffled and offended. I’m supposed to be working with him one more day and as you can imagine, I’m hardly looking forward to it. Also please don’t tell me to confront this person, a classroom is not the place for that, I barely know him and he is likely to be moving on anyway. I also supposed he’s the type who would feign innocence or make it seem like I was crazy if I did bring anything up as his behaviour was so subtle at times. I do wonder if this individual treats women like this in his personal life, it really bothered me. He was such a red flag.

OP posts:
notforonesecond · 02/11/2022 21:27

I assume this post is a joke but I don’t really get the point.

33goingon64 · 02/11/2022 21:31

I think you're overreacting.

Tromboncini · 02/11/2022 21:32

Individually they sound small but I can imagine said in a certain tone and over the course of the day this would start to grate.

I’m sure lots of people have experienced this. I would ask the question how they handled it and what do you plan to do about it. Seethe, ignore, address it? I will admit to being a very nice person - until I’m not. As I’ve got older I’ve become more comfortable (as anyone can be) with conflict and calling people out who harass or bully me or are otherwise unnecessarily rude. I don’t enjoy it but will do it and wish I had more as a younger person.

I hope you resolve it.

psycho2 · 02/11/2022 21:32

Meh I've had this at work from men and women. I did supply but you get it in any workplace. My advice is ignore it, don't react or report it as you might be seen as a problem. Just ignore and be polite and professional, he is just a colleague at the end of the day, we can't like them all.

PonyPatter44 · 02/11/2022 21:34

He sounds like a bit of a numpty, so I have no doubt he did come across as a bit patronising. I come across patronising people quite often at work, after a while you figure out that its pretty much their problem, not yours, and move on.

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 02/11/2022 21:35

Sounds like a whole load of fuss about nothing.

rwalker · 02/11/2022 21:36

Think it’s a case of you clearly don’t like him

1smallhamsterfoot · 02/11/2022 21:36

Are you normally this paranoid?

PurpleButterflyWings · 02/11/2022 21:36
Confused
AssignedSlytherinAtBirth · 02/11/2022 21:40

I've had this kind of treatment as a temp working in offices. You learn to ignore these people and their little office power plays, because you're free to move on and they're stuck there (although I agree your situation is a bit different, but sounds as if he resents you for some reason).

Oysterbabe · 02/11/2022 21:40

All complete non-events. I wouldn't have given it a seconds thought.

StoneofDestiny · 02/11/2022 21:41

Also please don’t tell me to confront this person, a classroom is not the place for that
Maybe not in front of the pupils, but you can certainly confront him if you think it's justified when you are on your own with him.

psycho2 · 02/11/2022 21:44

As I’ve got older I’ve become more comfortable (as anyone can be) with conflict and calling people out who harass or bully me or are otherwise unnecessarily rude. I don’t enjoy it but will do it and wish I had more as a younger person

whilst I agree workplaces can be different and sometimes just saying nothing is the safest option sadly. By flagging things or standing your ground can make things worse in my experience in the workplace.

marvellousmaple · 02/11/2022 22:05

Umm... no I've got nothing. Think you may be overthinking a touch OP.

Womencanlift · 02/11/2022 22:08

YABU to compare these events to an abusive relationship

You meet different people at work, some you will click with, some not. From the examples you have given it just sounds like you are not going to get on. I do think you are being over sensitive

Jalepenojello · 02/11/2022 22:08

You’re being really weird about this. It all sounds fine and normal…he seems to the point, matter of fact, get the job done type. All good, no?

FluffySlippers12 · 02/11/2022 22:11

AssignedSlytherinAtBirth · 02/11/2022 21:40

I've had this kind of treatment as a temp working in offices. You learn to ignore these people and their little office power plays, because you're free to move on and they're stuck there (although I agree your situation is a bit different, but sounds as if he resents you for some reason).

Thanks, I'm completely with you on this and I usually DO ignore people with their little power plays. In this instance though, after this mans' third dig, I became more bothered than I usually would. I've actually had worse at work but because this was constant digs, it felt more provocative.

OP posts:
RosieCockle · 02/11/2022 22:14

What are you going on about?

ManefesationofConciousness · 02/11/2022 22:53

What?
I think that supply teaching isnt really for you

psycho2 · 02/11/2022 22:56

What?
I think that supply teaching isnt really for you

op has no issue with her job though, it's with a colleague. The job itself is pretty irrelevant.

Frankensteinisamonster · 02/11/2022 22:57

Blimey, how rude are you?

IneedanewTV · 02/11/2022 22:59

I think you are the problem here. Why wouldn’t a teacher help prep the snacks?

Luredbyapomegranate · 02/11/2022 23:00

He sounds like a bit of a twat, but you sound oversensitive. Ignore him.

Mammyloveswine · 02/11/2022 23:01

I can't see anything bad? But your feelings are valid.

I suspect though that you felt threatened that he had made a good impression when you usually see yourself as swooping in to "save the day".

Also I'm a teacher and always prepare snack! I also change children if they need help...I clear up vomit..help in the dinner hall..

You also must have known about the list for allergies as you say the TA was only told a few moments before yet you turn asked him where it was..he was probably thinking "you were here when I was told! "

Anyway op you are on supply, just don't take the next job there or feed back to your agency who will feed back to the school (if you feel really strongly).

Georgeskitchen · 02/11/2022 23:17

I know exactly what you mean, I have come across people like this, smiling assassins is a good way to describe them