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Do I need to curb my DDs enthusiasm for Brownies?

246 replies

LovesLovesLovesBrownies · 02/11/2022 14:21

DD is 8 and a girlguide. A Brownie at the moment but she did Rainbows before and will most likely do Guides after.

Just had an argument with my dad over it and don’t know whether I am UR or not.

I never did hobbies or interests outside of school, dad said they were too expensive and where for posh people who just want to leave parenting to others. I begged to do scouts or guides or DOE Award or anything at all but was always told no.

He says now DD is a Brownie I need to seriously think about “reigning her in” and curb her enthusiasm for it. This is because she puts herself forward for all events outside of meetings and me and ExH have only told her once or twice that she can’t do them. Apparently, this is spoiling her, isn’t teaching her anything and pushing her away from us.

DD absolutely loves Brownies, is very self-motivated, wants to do Interest Badges in every spare minute - she did all 12 Interest Badges at Rainbows and has already done 8 out of 18 for Brownies. She already has Brownie Bronze (after getting Rainbow Bronze and Silver) and will most likely get Silver at Christmas. I knew when I signed her up that she would have to commit to occasional events outside of meetings but I wanted her to do it. She does all her school work including homework and is well behaved at school, so I see no reason to stop it.

I pay for everything to do with it have never asked for help from family or ExH, although ExH bought her another tshirt when she started Brownies as he wanted her to have the long sleeve one for winter. ExH also takes DD to any events that fall on his weekend but I always offer to take her myself and repay contact but he never wants that.

There’s 3 events between now and Christmas and DD wants to do all of them, there was no reason to stop her. 2 are free so no extra costs involved as we can walk to them and the 3rd which falls on ExHs weekend I covered the cost of. There’s usually 3-4 events per quarter apart from in Late Spring/Summer where they all fall in May and June bar 1 in August (which is completely optional and is the only one I’ve ever said no to, ExH said no to an event once as they had a family wedding that day and DD was fine with it, didn't sulk and enjoyed the wedding).

DD is extremely grateful, always says thank you and when I changed my job recently very politely asked if there was enough money to pay for Brownies still as she didn’t mind going without Christmas or Birthday presents if there wasn’t (there was).

Dad still insists she’s spoilt. Especially as she does 2 sports as well, but she’s not as enthusiastic about those and would choose Brownies over those anyday and has done, when events like competitions or matches have clashed she’s chosen Brownies over the sport(s). Dad also says that there’s no point in encouraging it as she can’t do it as an adult, I pointed out leaders/volunteers but he said not everyone can do that and she won’t “get badges” for doing it. He also says hobbies take away family time and he can't see ExPILs "putting up" with it much longer as they only get to see DD on ExHs weekends - ExH did hobbies (he's an only child) so I doubt they're against them. He says my mum also gets annoyed about it as she then can't see us at weekends - my parents are 15 years divorced and rarely talk also my mum comes to "watch" DD in her parades/events if they're open to the public as does Ex-MIL.

So WIBU?

Vote:
YABU – You’re dads right, stop DD doing Brownies
YANBU – You’re right, let DD carry on

OP posts:
LovesLovesLovesBrownies · 02/11/2022 14:36

It came about because it's my weekend and one of the events is this weekend and I told Dad he was welcome to come (it's a fayre type thing with each unit doing a stall) and he said "no thanks" and asked me if DD absolutely needed to go then went on his rant.

I know DD absolutely loves it, but I didn't know whether her enthusiam and love for it was normal. Now I've been told it is I won't be stopping it.

OP posts:
Libre2 · 02/11/2022 14:39

I would love it if my two DC were anywhere near this enthusiastic about anything! Encourage it! And let her Brownie leaders know how much it means to her - you will make their year, I guarantee it.

And just completely ignore your Dad - with the best will in the world - he’s an idiot.

PaintOn · 02/11/2022 14:39

I know DD absolutely loves it, but I didn't know whether her enthusiam and love for it was normal. Now I've been told it is I won't be stopping it.

Just another thought, if your weird and controlling dad sees her often on your weekends, maybe she's trying to get away from him and jumps at the opportunity to do events?

Testina · 02/11/2022 14:39

But even if she was abnormally enthusiastic - why are you listening to your dad like this?! You’re a grown up now!

SundownOnTheStair · 02/11/2022 14:40

Tell him to bugger off, the miserable old sod.
Sew a badge for "Brownie Choice for Miserable Fucker of the Year" onto the back of his coat

NemoNotThatOne · 02/11/2022 14:40

Your dad's bonkers, ignore him.

hoorayandupsherises · 02/11/2022 14:41

Jeez, there's little enough joy in life, why would a grandparent try to piss on your chips?

NemoNotThatOne · 02/11/2022 14:41

Not sure I've ever seen 100% YANBU before!

Paddingtonsmarmlade · 02/11/2022 14:42

You're dad is being odd. If he really wanted to see your dd then he'd go to the event and enjoy her doing something she like. He wants to control and does not believe in spending money, time or effort in a child's interest.

ODFOx · 02/11/2022 14:42

An 8 year old loving a varied activity with a mixed demographics hoc peer group which fosters service, responsibility, team working, being brave and learning new things?

He won't mind so much when she makes him a cup of tea and lights his fire for him!

RambamThankyouMam · 02/11/2022 14:42

Your dad sounds like a tight, miserable old goat who needs to wind his damn neck in. I can't abide chippy sods like that.

AloysiusBear · 02/11/2022 14:42

Your Dad is weird.

Although my general opinion of scouts/brownies is fairly neutral (few children actually acquire skills there to a high enough standard to have any real value, i think focussing on training for a sport, learning a language, musical instrument or ballet are more useful) it is about the cheapest activity available and enjoyable, and i do think it promotes nice values and soft skills eg teamwork, community contribution, making an effort, trying new things.

Hankunamatata · 02/11/2022 14:43

He would hate me. My kids do about 5 different clubs and sports. What's the alternative? Sitting in the house and watching tv

Shakirasma · 02/11/2022 14:43

Guides and scouts a great groups to be part of, and are very enriching for a child.

Your dad is a dick. He was a dick when you were a child and now hes being a dick Grandad too.

PuttingDownRoots · 02/11/2022 14:44

Thats a really odd view!

Kids can get a lot from guides/scouts/cadets etc. She enjoys it.

This weekend DDs have their Scout Bonfire night. Next weekend DD1 has a District competition, and both have Remembrance Parade. Its how it is sometimes.

MayMoveMayNot · 02/11/2022 14:44

Your dad is highly unreasonable, but you know this 😉.

fruktsoda · 02/11/2022 14:45

Shame on your father for trying to ruin your daughter's enjoyment of a perfectly healthy hobby!

Do NOT listen to a word he has to say on this topic. He's clearly got some issues with hobbies and can't be trusted to think logically or realistically about them.

Libre2 · 02/11/2022 14:45

AloysiusBear · 02/11/2022 14:42

Your Dad is weird.

Although my general opinion of scouts/brownies is fairly neutral (few children actually acquire skills there to a high enough standard to have any real value, i think focussing on training for a sport, learning a language, musical instrument or ballet are more useful) it is about the cheapest activity available and enjoyable, and i do think it promotes nice values and soft skills eg teamwork, community contribution, making an effort, trying new things.

I know - but it is actually fun and is a lovely thing to be part of. I’m not sure that instruments and sports are of any more value (and I speak as the wife of a music teacher).

budgiegirl · 02/11/2022 14:46

Why would you even ask this? Of course your dad is being unreasonable, and also extremely odd. It's great that your DD has got a hobby that she is so enthusiastic about. Don't let him, or anyone else, persuade you otherwise. If you, your exH and your DD are happy with her level of involvement in Brownies, that's all that matters.

nutbrownhare15 · 02/11/2022 14:47

Don't listen to your dad on this or any other subject. If Brownies comes up again (I wouldn't suggest mentioning it) grey rock him

NoSki · 02/11/2022 14:47

Fucking hell your dad is an arsehole. He emotionally abused you growing up please don’t let him for that to your daughter. I would go NC personally. The fact that upon are even doubting enough to ask here is worrying. Your daughters interest is lovely, your dad is simply evil. Don’t let him destroy your daughter as he has destroyed you. Please think about it therapy if you haven’t already and cutting ties with him.

roses2 · 02/11/2022 14:48

Of all the activities out there Brownies / Scouts is one of the worthwhile activities that she shouldn't drop! It doesn't cost a lot and she enjoys it.

cataline · 02/11/2022 14:48

Your daughter sounds absolutely brilliant!

Your Dad sounds like a joyless pain in the arse who needs to mind his own business!

tickticksnooze · 02/11/2022 14:49

Well, he's a shit grandfather. What a horrible way to behave.

Maray1967 · 02/11/2022 14:50

SundownOnTheStair · 02/11/2022 14:40

Tell him to bugger off, the miserable old sod.
Sew a badge for "Brownie Choice for Miserable Fucker of the Year" onto the back of his coat

This is my post of the day.

Yes, your Dad is a mean-spirited, controlling idiot. Your DD loves an activity that is challenging her to develop skills etc - he just seems to want his family under his control.

Both sets of my DCs grandparents are keen to hear about the activities they’re involved in - that’s what a normal grandparent should be like.