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Friend forgot our plans

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Conundrum12345 · 30/10/2022 14:07

I have a very good friend who is chronically late for our meet ups and never puts appointments in calendars and forgets about them. Tb

Over the summer I asked her to pick a weekend in November for her birthday as I wanted to do something special (it's a big birthday). It was settled for next weekend. Over the past few months I had organised a day full of nice activities- spa in the morning, hair and make up in the afternoon and dinner in the evening.

We are in contact a lot and during the course of our texting this morning I asked if she was all set for next weekend. She responded that she was going abroad. I sent her screenshots of our conversation from a few months ago and she said she forgot to put it in her diary, how she was mortified, but hasn't apologised.

I'm really upset. I spent so long organising it. Am I overreacting and should I just let it go or say something

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Butchyrestingface · 30/10/2022 18:58

Given her form for this behaviour, you were BU to:

  1. arrange anything of this nature for her to begin with
  2. not to double check/fool proof it with her before making the actual arrangements

    That said, she should have apologised. Hopefully she will yet.
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chopc · 30/10/2022 19:14

How does anyone think the OP is being unreasonable? Sometimes mumsnet is completely nuts

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CantGetDecentNickname · 30/10/2022 19:16

gavisconismyfriend · 30/10/2022 16:38

Lots of victim blaming going on here! The issue isn’t that the OP didn’t remind the friend or that she chose to spend lots of money on her friend, the issue is that the friend has forgotten an arrangement, been pretty blasé when reminded, and the OP is understandably hurt and disappointed! OP, as others have suggested, can you find someone lovely to spend the day with, who will value your company and remind you that you have other friends who won’t let you down? Going forward, never arrange more than a coffee with flakey friend.

Agree with the above. It looks as though a better offer came along and she is only embarrassed for herself, not sorry for hurting you or even offering to make it up in some way. I would take a big step backwards following this. I think you are being a bit too nice about her. She doesn't seem to have considered you at all. Glad you have been able to cancel most things and go to the spa with your DSis. I'd just post a card to her address and leave it there. Let her contact you and only accept an invitation if it is something you actually want to do. Assuming you remain friends, I'd just be dropping round a card and a small gift in future and arranging events with other friends.

It sounds as though she has been getting away with a lot over the years and hasn't made any effort to deal with her flaky behaviour which most of us would.

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CantGetDecentNickname · 30/10/2022 19:18

Also, I'd tell her just how hurt you were so she is not in any doubt or can go away thinking that it didn't matter really.

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CaptainMum · 30/10/2022 19:21

Yanbu.

Tell her. Politely, kindly, lovingly, gently in person. That it was upsetting and rude that she had forgotten the plans. That it cost you time and money and we're disappointed that she hadn't booked/prioritised it. If she apologises then she may change and friendship back on track...

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Mummyoflittledragon · 30/10/2022 19:25

CaptainMum · 30/10/2022 19:21

Yanbu.

Tell her. Politely, kindly, lovingly, gently in person. That it was upsetting and rude that she had forgotten the plans. That it cost you time and money and we're disappointed that she hadn't booked/prioritised it. If she apologises then she may change and friendship back on track...

This. See how she reacts.

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Aprilx · 30/10/2022 19:28

It all feels a bit over the top for a friends birthday, hair and make up really? I cannot imagine going to get my hair done with a friend, to me that is like booking joint dental hygiene appointments. 😄

I also think it is strange that you did not confirm these things as you were booking them and have instead left it until the week before. That does sound like you were asking for trouble, even a well organised friend might have thought it wasn’t happening if they hadn’t heard anything since the summer.

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Livelovebehappy · 30/10/2022 19:29

You’re treated how you allow yourself to be treated, and it sounds like she has got away for so long with this sort of behaviour towards you, that she no longer respects your friendship.

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Augend23 · 30/10/2022 19:32

The poll results will tell you more than the comments here.

I agree that to me it's a lot to do for a birthday. But my friends spend about £50 on birthday presents for each other, which others would also say was excessive. Each to their own.

Have a lovely spa day OP :)

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MissMaple82 · 30/10/2022 19:32

So, you know she is forgetful and disorganised yet you still booked something on the promise of a text conversation you had months ago!?!? YABVU

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MissMaple82 · 30/10/2022 19:35

I also find it very odd you left it to the last minute to message her asking if she's looking forward ti her 'surprise birthday' it's almost like you've done it on purpose

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ProFannyTea · 30/10/2022 19:38

I think you need to adjust your investment in this ‘friend’ accordingly. You know she’s flaky and unreliable so at least she remained true to character and didn’t disappoint.

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WisherWood · 30/10/2022 20:37

So - you made an arrangement months ago, didn’t mention it again, and assumed she’d magically go against everything she’s ever done before?

This really. You can't change her or the way she acts - which is a separate issue from whether or not she should change. The only bit you can control is what you do. Personally before arranging a day out or anything that involved any money I'd just double check with any friend, however flakey or organised, that things were still on. Years of experience just suggest to me that if you don't do this, life gets in the way and there's too much room for confusion.

The fact that she's doing something else suggests to me that whilst the OP sees her as a BFF, she sees the OP as just another friend. Neither is wrong but the mismatch is a problem.

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Wheredoallthepensgo · 30/10/2022 23:35

Flubber88 · 30/10/2022 15:23

I had a similar experience, bought festival tickets, flights, B&B etc for friends birthday, "friend" pulled out the day before, I don't think they had any intention on going looking back. £1400 wasted. I called an end to the friendship which was a shame as was a friend from school (we were about 32 at the time).

You spent £1400 on a friend's birthday???

Fuck me. I know I'm Scottish and therefore assumed to be tight as a duck's arse but I don't think I've even spent that much on my husband in ten years. Grin

Can I be your friend?

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Vikinga · 30/10/2022 23:54

Does she have adhd?

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BadNomad · 31/10/2022 02:38

Even if she put it in her diary, it doesn't mean she'd check her diary. If she has executive function issues, she probably doesn't even know where her diary is half the time. I do find it odd that, knowing how she is, you never at any point mentioned it. Not even a "You're still ok for November, right?"

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Oblomov22 · 31/10/2022 04:28

You are to blame here. She is flaky and you know this.

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BadLad · 31/10/2022 05:12

Itloggedmeoutagain · 30/10/2022 15:39

I'm amazed how much some people on here spend on friend's birthdays.
I've just booked to go away with a friend early next summer. I will see her countless times before then and the holiday will be mentioned /talked about/planned etc because that's just normal life. I can't imagine it getting to a week before and it not getting mentioned.

It used to amaze me too, but it's far from unheard of on here. Here's a thread where the OP has bought train tickets for her friend, as well as a sixty-five pound gift and is buying lunch for both of them, all as birthday presents. Then the friend has chosen an expensive place, hence the OP venting on AIBU.😆

www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4523202-friends-birthday-meal-i-m-paying-and-she-picked-expensive-place-aibu?reply=117361232&flipped=1

I don't think I've ever bought a birthday present for a friend that went further than a pint of beer.

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TwentyForty · 31/10/2022 06:32

Friendship would be over for me.

She told you it was in her diary! She either lied, or didn't care and booked the holiday.

I don't understand 'forgetful' as an excuse, especially when she's clearly remembered her holiday abroad.

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MiddleParking · 31/10/2022 06:33

Stuff like this is really not what the phrase ‘victim blaming’ is intended for. Using social justice language for absolutely anything that pisses you off a) weakens it for its actual useful context and b) makes you sound hyperbolic and silly.

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TwentyForty · 31/10/2022 06:34

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LAMPS1 · 31/10/2022 06:35

You must tell her how you feel.
Not to be mean but so that she fully understands the consequences to you of her double booking and to hear her side of the story…if there is one.
It’s not a proper friendship if you don’t start a conversation off about it.
She may need help and understanding. Or she may need a kick up the backside so that she doesn’t take you for granted ever again.
At the very least, she needs to learn a few manners on how to properly and sincerely apologise. ‘I am embarrassed’ is not an apology.

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Candymay · 31/10/2022 06:39

neighboursmustliveon · 30/10/2022 14:26

You are right to feel upset but, you know your friend is like that so regular reminders are useful. Set up a whats app titled birthday weekend in November and send regular notes ie make sure you pack your swimming costume, I've booked our, I'm really looking forward to celebrating your birthday etc. it just keeps things alive for her so she can't excuse she is forgetting.

Oh no. I definitely wouldn’t go to this trouble.
dump her she’s not a good friend.

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Newmumatlast · 31/10/2022 06:51

Bathtubbathing · 30/10/2022 14:55

Thank you for this.

You've made me see things about 2 flaky friends which I hadn't seen before. Your post has made me join up the dots.

I have ADHD and the PPs post is spot on. I do, though, put stuff in my calendar on my phone because of it and almost over plan important event things to ensure it builds in extra contingencies for my flakiness. For example it was my daughter's birthday party and to keep it front and centre of my mind I sort of hyperfocused on it and got a bit obsessed planning it which kept my attention and got it done. Noone attending would think I had ADHD as people forget the hyperfocus part - I went overboard if anything but I didn't let her down by forgetting anything.

I can't do this with everything and also sometimes important things get overlooked if I am distracted when sorting them out. For example often I forget to pay parking on apps or clean air or dart charge if I get distracted and then end up thinking I did it when I didnt. I also often don't open post as it comes through the door when I'm busy so I pick it up and put it down and then forget about it.

I have a really important job which requires me to be organised so a lot of people wouldn't realise I have ADHD unless told and/or would think I couldn't possibly forget things like an appointment or a fine but as PP said, all my energy goes into maintaining that job. Its also something I hyperfocus at in fits and starts which is enough to perform it well.

The key for me is to be encouraged - either by myself or family/friends asking me - to immediately diarise things or deal with things when told as if I am interrupted or distracted I forget and will not do the thing. Sometimes this means I have to quite abruptly but politely ask family to stop talking after they've mentioned a date i.e. dont go straight onto another topic so I can diarise immediately or stop mid conversation to pay parking/transfer money to them from my app etc because it has come up in conversation and I'll forget unless immediately do it.

In terms of OPs example though, even if her friend has ADHD or another neurodiversity its a poor show. She managed to remember her holiday abroad. She must know, as an adult and therefore someone who has had years of experience of herself and how she is, that she forgets stuff and has forgotten important plans with this friend before and therefore if she wanted to do the thing she could've stopped and diarised it or communicated to her friend what she needed in order to remember.

So to the poster I've tagged and to the OP, though yes it is helpful to help friends put who are 'flaky' they can and should also take responsibility for themselves.

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Conundrum12345 · 31/10/2022 07:34

Thanks all. I will say something. I haven't heard from her all weekend and don't plan on reaching out until she contacts me

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