AIBU to expect to keep my full holiday entitlement?

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I've just applied to change my hours at work so I finish at 3pm every day, meaning I now work 80% of my full time hours. I was previously entitled to 25 days holiday but they're saying that will reduce to 20
(I.e. 20% less). I understand the logic, but I'm still working every day and losing a whole week's holiday is going to be pretty significant for me. The reason I'm cutting my hours is because I have no childcare outside of school! My pay is already reducing by 20% so taking a weeks leave from me on top seems unfair.

Surely, since in each day I work 20% less hours, when I am on leave I am also taking 20% less leave. So, I should still get 25 days (but am taking 20% less hours each day). I already argued this to HR but they refused, and sent me a policy which very clearly states the calculation and says if you're part time on e.g. 80% hours, you get 80% leave even if you work 5 days a week. This seems wrong to me but they refuse to give in.

Has anyone else been in a similar situation and managed to argue successfully? Am I being unreasonable to expect a bit more from a company who claims to support women who need flexible working arrangements?

AL is counted in hours not days so yes if you reduce your hours your AL entitlement will also reduce .

Genuine question, why do you believe you're eligible for 100% holiday when only working 80%? What made you think it wouldn't change?

That is correct, it's worked out by how many hours you do.

You should still get the same number of days. The total hours will be different 5hough. So if you were previously entitled to 100 hrs, you would now be entitled to 80hrs which would equate to the same number of days because each day now takes up less hours.

www.gov.uk/calculate-your-holiday-entitlement

Thats truly fucked up. Therefore when you take leave, you book a day's leave, which is 8 hours and then you'll have 2 hours not used!

I'd call ACAS.

They’ve got it wrong, they need to calculate your holiday entitlement in hours, so for example you’d still get 25 days but 25 days at 6 hours a day so 150 hours rather than 25 days at 8 hours a day (200 hours). I think that makes sense

Yes as someone else has said how come holiday entitlement is worked from hours but then given in days?

You should have a certain number of hours as holiday and that will still cover 25 days as you need less to cover each day?

Holiday for part timers should be done in hours notvdays

Have you asked for it to be calculated in hours?

They might have equated the hours into "full" reduced days. What does your new contract actually say?

They need to calculate it in hours, not days (why doesn't everywhere do this by default?!) so that you have 80% of full time hours annual leave.

Definitely should be in hours so you are correct

This is correct. It was how mine was worked out when I changed hours. So you ARE getting a reduction in annual leave but it's calculated on hours not days.

The government website has an excellent calculator for such things. The only way they would be correct is if they were paying you for a full time persons hours on the days you take annual leave.

Your holiday should be in hours or days. So if days, it's at your new daily rate (same amount of days as before), and if hours, 20% less hours than before.

Surely the number of days is then broken down into hours so 20 days is equivalent of 160 hours (assuming standard day is 8 hours). You then use 6 of those hours every time you take a 'day' off.

I see where you are coming from. You need to clarify with HR how you take a a weeks leave, is it in days, in which case you are being penalised, or hours.

It's this. Your annual leave has reduced by 20% but it should be measured in hours
Every time you take "a day" off it will only be 80% of a day, you shouldn't miss out
Google aCas part time annual leave and pass it to them

Yes as others have said it should be done in hours and should still work out the same number of days as before (25 days).

Exactly as many others have replied - I did expect it to go down, by 20%, in hours. Each day I take off I will only be taking 80% of my full time hours off. Otherwise, the way they've calculated it, I'm losing 2 hours every time I take a day off!

Agree with a pp it makes more sense if you think of it in hours rather than days.

E.g you worked 1000 hours a year and are entitled to one hours leave per each 10 hours worked you'd be entitled to 100 hours leave.

If you drop to 80 hours one hours leave per 10 hours worked is 80 hours leave.

Figures are unrealistic but chosen to make it as simple as possible.

It doesn't matter how you spread those hours out per day, it's the total sum that matters for your leave entitlement.

Based on the logic your company is using, they need to pay your AL at the 100% of your pay. Not the 80% you are being paid due to working less hours

I'm relieved that the majority seem to agree with me but a bit concerned that the policy is clearly wrong! I'm now wondering how many part time workers have been affected by this before me and why no one has questioned it

Calculate your leave in hours instead of days. Then when you need to take a full week off you take however many hours off the list.

You still get a full week and no one is done out of anything.

When your hours reduce so does AL but you can't still work it out.

My leave has been calculated in hours since 2006...

I'm an HR director. Your statutory entitlement to 5.6 weeks holiday per year doesn't change because you're part-time, and, as you work 5 days per week like a full-timer, you should still get at least 5.6 weeks (ie 28 days which may include BHs), it's just that your weeks are "worth less". Since full-timers get 33 days (inc BHs) in a normal year, you should get the same, as you work 5 days like they do. So, if you take a week off, you'll still have 5 days deducted, but will only be paid for 32 hours. I suspect this is what they mean, they've just expressed it in a confusing way, so go back to them and ask about how many days you'll have deducted if you take a week off, and that should make them clear things up.

Good luck