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Wouldn’t it be great if we could all settle the fuck down now

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AnyFucker · 24/10/2022 17:09

…and give this government a chance to sort out this huge bastard mess

We are where we are. Nothing can change it. We are not having a general election for at least 2 years. Yes, there have been some monumental fuck ups whipped up by the media so that we don’t know our arse from our elbow

It’s a sound bite, yes but it’s true that what we need now is stability

I am not a Tory by nature. I have been appalled by many things over the last few months and years.

We are on our knees is so many ways. Constant agitation and chaos just prolongs it. There is no credible opposition in my view.

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FleecyMcFleeceFace · 24/10/2022 19:38

Your argument - let Sunak have a crack at providing stability - makes little sense.

The general public last voted 3 years ago (for a sleazy, lazy, divisive sod, but that's by the by) - all the subsequent chaos has had nothing to do with voters, or the media. It's been the Tories imploding and making pisspoor decisions. And the fallout from Brexit.

All of Europe is dealing with an energy crisis and the war. They are not all in this position.

I am not a fan of Labour, but they are very clearly the choice of stability and competence at the moment. An election would oust the Tories in a landslide from which they will not recover for many years. Labour would be in power - with a large and stable majority - for probably tje next decade.

Sunak's government may manage to limp on for 2 more years. They have no mandate and no credibility. He is a placemarker at best, and every negotiating partner knows that. Sunak stands a very good chance of going down much sooner than the end of this scheduled election cycle. The Tories will lose the next election.

If you want stability, you want an immediate election.

Happyher · 24/10/2022 19:38

Sunak seems like the most adult of the three but I don’t like his politics. I’m happy for him to make the tough decisions knowing the electorate are wise to to this shambolic party now. We won’t put up with his rich mates being rewarded while we struggle. I think he has enemies in the party too so after the honeymoon the factionalism will start and the party will crumble. Then we can have a general election

auntiemabelisveryable · 24/10/2022 19:39

AnyFucker · 24/10/2022 17:09

…and give this government a chance to sort out this huge bastard mess

We are where we are. Nothing can change it. We are not having a general election for at least 2 years. Yes, there have been some monumental fuck ups whipped up by the media so that we don’t know our arse from our elbow

It’s a sound bite, yes but it’s true that what we need now is stability

I am not a Tory by nature. I have been appalled by many things over the last few months and years.

We are on our knees is so many ways. Constant agitation and chaos just prolongs it. There is no credible opposition in my view.

Of course we can change it!

Settling down is accepting the mess!

User135644 · 24/10/2022 19:41

Scautish · 24/10/2022 19:35

Who are you to tell us to “settle down”? Just because you’re a “known name” with lots of MN fan girls doesn’t mean you get to speak to us Like we are a noisy assembly of school kids that need to be shushed at.

I’m fucking furious that this shambolic government are asking us to trust them yet again after they have treated us with utter contempt.

bring on Kier Starmer - and bollocks to the “don’t trust labour” bullshit. That’s just the mantra of a Tory voter who is clutching at straws as to why their pathetic party should remain in power.

absolutely FUCK THAT. I’m raging and will continue to be so until we these fucking twats are out.

Give the man a chance FFS.

The OP is totally right, enough of the Tory bashing now and get behind them. If you want to vote them out at the next election then that's your right.

BrightYellowDaffodil · 24/10/2022 19:41

You think the major concern in British politics is that the Labour party will tear itself apart in office. The Labour Party? Do you not watch the news?

I do think the Labour Party would tear itself apart, and I say that as someone who wants to see a decent centre left party. Thing is, they’re two parties in one - the centre left/vaguely Blairite bit, and the hard-left Union-heavy bit. They coexist uncomfortably enough now but add the momentum of power (no pun intended) and they’ll fight like cats in a sack. And that’s before we get to the walking shit show that is Angela Rayner and her bandying about of words like “scum”.

As a PP said, there just not experienced enough at anything other than being in opposition. Right now, I’d rather a party that has some experience of governing even if, to date, they’ve not been that great at it. I’m prepared to give Sunak a chance.

YellowAndGreenToBeSeen · 24/10/2022 19:41

I’ve only just got started with my heckling of this shower of 🤬

12 years - TWELVE FUCKING YEARS - and they have trashed the economy, allowed the disaster capitalist ERG bastards to get even fatter, enabled our leaving of the EU and fucked over the vast majority of the population.

If anyone thinks Rishi is in this for anything other than more of the same, dream on.

I want a General Election as soon as possible.

EscapeRoomToTheSun · 24/10/2022 19:42

You're not only insane, you're a liar too. Typically tory.

Livelovebehappy · 24/10/2022 19:42

Agree. I predict that the last few months of chaos will be a distant memory within 6 months. People have short memories, and if Rishi turns things around, like I believe he will, then it will be another Tory government at the next election. I think things would have to be really dire for labour to stand a chance of getting infor the foreseeable future.

MrPoppysParka · 24/10/2022 19:43

How does one ‘settle the fuck down’? What are we doing now that opposes this?
Not a Tory? Course not. I hope you’ve managed to get more use out of your second home this year.

mimi0708 · 24/10/2022 19:45

I'd rather have a new government than a government obviously so experienced at bringing this country to shits and causing 12 years of austerity and reducing public services to nothing!

User135644 · 24/10/2022 19:46

BrightYellowDaffodil · 24/10/2022 19:41

You think the major concern in British politics is that the Labour party will tear itself apart in office. The Labour Party? Do you not watch the news?

I do think the Labour Party would tear itself apart, and I say that as someone who wants to see a decent centre left party. Thing is, they’re two parties in one - the centre left/vaguely Blairite bit, and the hard-left Union-heavy bit. They coexist uncomfortably enough now but add the momentum of power (no pun intended) and they’ll fight like cats in a sack. And that’s before we get to the walking shit show that is Angela Rayner and her bandying about of words like “scum”.

As a PP said, there just not experienced enough at anything other than being in opposition. Right now, I’d rather a party that has some experience of governing even if, to date, they’ve not been that great at it. I’m prepared to give Sunak a chance.

Yes, Starmer exudes competence but it's the Tories that are the natural party of government.

Labour have no experience. Plus Sunak will bring a bit more experience back to the front benches after the Truss experiment.

Putting Labour in charge now would be like sending the England under 21s to play at the World Cup instead of the senior team, yet people still criticise the Tories and want Labour, It's laughable. We need the Tories right now.

lannistunut · 24/10/2022 19:46

BrightYellowDaffodil · 24/10/2022 19:41

You think the major concern in British politics is that the Labour party will tear itself apart in office. The Labour Party? Do you not watch the news?

I do think the Labour Party would tear itself apart, and I say that as someone who wants to see a decent centre left party. Thing is, they’re two parties in one - the centre left/vaguely Blairite bit, and the hard-left Union-heavy bit. They coexist uncomfortably enough now but add the momentum of power (no pun intended) and they’ll fight like cats in a sack. And that’s before we get to the walking shit show that is Angela Rayner and her bandying about of words like “scum”.

As a PP said, there just not experienced enough at anything other than being in opposition. Right now, I’d rather a party that has some experience of governing even if, to date, they’ve not been that great at it. I’m prepared to give Sunak a chance.

Why on earth the message of the last couple of years would be that Labour will tear itself apart I don't know, but you can't argue with batshit.

Intelligenthair · 24/10/2022 19:48

I agree with the OP. We’re not getting a GE any time soon- I’ve been appalled at the Tories but Rishi needs to be given some time and space to turn things around now. This constant fighting weakens us all.

JimRoyle · 24/10/2022 19:48

Who are you telling to settle down though? To give the govt a chance? It’s the govt who created this mess 😂

you know, the same folk who’ve been in govt for 12 years…

watcherintherye · 24/10/2022 19:50

I couldn’t put it better than the op. I’m not a Tory supporter either, but I don’t have confidence that Labour would be able to do any better currently.

Although the other parties are champing at the bit because, I suppose, they can see their chance, I really don’t think there is any appetite for a General Election in the country as a whole. I would agree that we need a period of stability and level-headedness, with no self-inflicted dramas to add to those which are already besieging us. We need to face economic adversity from a place of security, rather than the inevitable uncertainty following the upheaval of a General Election, imo.

PotentiallyPolly · 24/10/2022 19:50

@User135644 Not getting behind them nor giving them a chance. They’ve had chance after chance after chance. But I think you’re on the wind up here.

lannistunut · 24/10/2022 19:50

User135644 · 24/10/2022 19:46

Yes, Starmer exudes competence but it's the Tories that are the natural party of government.

Labour have no experience. Plus Sunak will bring a bit more experience back to the front benches after the Truss experiment.

Putting Labour in charge now would be like sending the England under 21s to play at the World Cup instead of the senior team, yet people still criticise the Tories and want Labour, It's laughable. We need the Tories right now.

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Again this just baffles me. Why are the Tories the natural party of government? This is a message they promote about themselves and people parrot it back like automatons.

There is almost no talent in the current Tory party, they are so factionalised and have no clear philosophy any more.

We absolutely do not need the Tories. They have trashed the country over the last twelve years.

Bovrilly · 24/10/2022 19:52

I predict that the last few months of chaos will be a distant memory within 6 months. People have short memories, and if Rishi turns things around, like I believe he will, then it will be another Tory government at the next election.

I take you are wealthy with no mortgage? Because if not then you have no idea what is about to happen.

Worriedddd · 24/10/2022 19:53

Livelovebehappy · 24/10/2022 19:42

Agree. I predict that the last few months of chaos will be a distant memory within 6 months. People have short memories, and if Rishi turns things around, like I believe he will, then it will be another Tory government at the next election. I think things would have to be really dire for labour to stand a chance of getting infor the foreseeable future.

How's he going to sort it out in 6 months?!!! The economy is fucked , we printed too much money there's a war and we aren't energy independent. The bills need paying, our government needs to service the national debt at higher interest levels leaving less money for public spending. They have to keep interest rates at a parity with the US or inflation gets worse and sterling becomes toilet paper. No party can fix this Labour or Tory short-term it's going to be horrible. It's better the government are truthful about the situation.

Worriedddd · 24/10/2022 19:55

mimi0708 · 24/10/2022 19:45

I'd rather have a new government than a government obviously so experienced at bringing this country to shits and causing 12 years of austerity and reducing public services to nothing!

There's no money left to pay for amazing public services they printed it all to pay for COVID

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 24/10/2022 19:56

DanniDryer · 24/10/2022 19:22

I’ll be very happy if I don’t hear Graham bloody Brady’s name again for a few years.

He’s my friend’s MP.

She hates him

RedHelenB · 24/10/2022 19:56

If this was Labour in govt would you feel the same? Were onto leader number 3, doesn't really inspire confidence in the governing party surely?

Iwasthebadsadone · 24/10/2022 19:56

I’m not white but as much as I should be pleased I am getting annoyed that everyone is banging on about him not being white. He is a multi millionaire that went to a prestigious private school.

Hawkins001 · 24/10/2022 19:57

The public helped create the pickle, by keeping the same party in power.

Bovrilly · 24/10/2022 19:58

I really don’t think there is any appetite for a General Election in the country as a whole

Wrong.

yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/survey-results/daily/2022/10/20/adc3c/3