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Wouldn’t it be great if we could all settle the fuck down now

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AnyFucker · 24/10/2022 17:09

…and give this government a chance to sort out this huge bastard mess

We are where we are. Nothing can change it. We are not having a general election for at least 2 years. Yes, there have been some monumental fuck ups whipped up by the media so that we don’t know our arse from our elbow

It’s a sound bite, yes but it’s true that what we need now is stability

I am not a Tory by nature. I have been appalled by many things over the last few months and years.

We are on our knees is so many ways. Constant agitation and chaos just prolongs it. There is no credible opposition in my view.

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Lily073 · 24/10/2022 18:11

Googlecanthelpme · 24/10/2022 17:46

No we shouldn’t settle down and let this shit show continue (they might “resolve”‘ one or two issues but they will just create new ones).
We should be rioting in the streets over the fact that in 2022 in Britain we have people starving and living in poverty, schools on their knees, bankrupt councils, people living in pain and misery not to merino dying prematurely because of NHS failures.
And all the while, people like Liz and Rishi get richer, their friends get richer and their companies bring home record profits.

if you think they will do anything to “sort the mess” - which they created then you are seriously, worryingly deluded. However you’re probably in luck, because we live in a conformist culture, so we will probably will just be quiet and behaved and well, bend over time and time again 🤷‍♀️

So why aren't you rioting if you feel so strongly?

Unseelie · 24/10/2022 18:11

Timeforabiscuit · 24/10/2022 17:30

My mil has an equal vote to me, and she was gutted Boris wasn't returning.

I asked what difference she thought Boris would make.

"Well he's got to sort the mortgage rate out!" - he can't, that's the market, and the conservatives are better off this way anyway.

"Well, food is through the roof, and the shelves in aldi are half empty! Butter has doubled!" - Yes, there's a war in Ukraine, price of cattle feed has gone up, so butter and milk has gone up. Europe will get first pick of what's grown and made in the EU, so it's not a surprise we're struggling.

"But we're part of Europe!" No we're not, you voted for brexit!

"Yeah, but that was just for immigration, I didn't think it meant everything else"

DH thought I did very well to be civil.

Conversations like this make me wonder if we should have to do a general knowledge exam before getting the right to vote 🙈 my ten yr old has more political understanding than your MIL.

Anyway. I agree, OP. The Brexit-Johnson-covid-Truss disasters are finally over. Sunak and Hunt are highly intelligent men who will get rid of the incompetents at the top and replace them with boring but intelligent people who can help turn around this disaster, but it’ll take time.

The worst thing that could happen now would actually be to have a general election, with all the parliamentary freezes and policy turnarounds that would bring. Two weeks ago I signed a petition demanding an instant general election, but hey I can change my mind.

I want this government to have a chance to fix things, and Kier Starmer’s speech to Pink News four days ago showed a man who’s deeply out of touch with what the country wants and, worse, a man who’s incapable of grasping the safeguarding implications of his policies.

Labour isn’t ready. Which is unforgivable actually I mean how long do they need?!

42isthemeaning · 24/10/2022 18:12

I do appreciate where you're coming from, but the ambulance drivers, nurses, doctors, teachers, train drivers, etc, can't and won't get behind this government - too much damage inflicted for too long means more strikes on the horizon and more instability.

BeckyWithTheGoodHair010101 · 24/10/2022 18:12

Completely agree AnyFucker, it seems we're living in a media frenzy at the moment. Hopefully that will all die down and allow him to do his job.

Bretonbear · 24/10/2022 18:12

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Jesus

Chateaudiaries · 24/10/2022 18:12

The good news is that the markets have settled down with Sunak as leader after the disaster mini budget.

The bad news is that leaving the European Union was long-term economically ruinous for the UK, especially with what followed, covid/Ukraine.

We are heading for a long recession which will be deeper and longer due to Tory policy over the last 12 years. So no, still angry here.

Skodacool · 24/10/2022 18:13

‘Huge bastard mess’, created by the Tory government which has been in charge for how many years?
’Whipped up by the media’, I don’t think so. MPs have fat salaries and huge privileges paid for by us. The media enable us to challenge what they do as our representatives.

Bitterbean · 24/10/2022 18:14

What riles me is that so many people seem to hold Labour and Conservative leaders to different standard. Labour is by far and away a credible alternative and a much better alternative to this bunch of Tory crooks.

Bluebellbike · 24/10/2022 18:14

AnyFucker · 24/10/2022 17:09

…and give this government a chance to sort out this huge bastard mess

We are where we are. Nothing can change it. We are not having a general election for at least 2 years. Yes, there have been some monumental fuck ups whipped up by the media so that we don’t know our arse from our elbow

It’s a sound bite, yes but it’s true that what we need now is stability

I am not a Tory by nature. I have been appalled by many things over the last few months and years.

We are on our knees is so many ways. Constant agitation and chaos just prolongs it. There is no credible opposition in my view.

Hear hear👏👏

lightand · 24/10/2022 18:16

Concerned he will introduce digital id.
His family have links to some company or other to do with it too.
And he said he wanted digital id back in about 2010.

So a bit unsettling. Rather than settling down.
In my opinion.

Whizzi24 · 24/10/2022 18:18

The only reason I want the Coonservativea to stay in charge for the near future is that I think there is too much of a mess for Labour to sort out now and they might only get one term if they don't turn things around quick enough. Let RS (hopefully) make a start of things. Although I can't say I have that much confidence.

However, I work in education and we cannot withstand any further spending cuts. That's my biggest fear - for schools and the NHS.

Eskarina1 · 24/10/2022 18:18

I'm with @HiveBee . The prospect of two years where they know they have to win the electorate back over is bad.

If they get another 5 years after that... Well we know there are elements of the party who want to do nothing about climate change and redistribute money to the very rich. What would stop them?

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AnyFucker · 24/10/2022 18:18

it is the media who keep stirring and stirring - they will have a massive hand in whether Rishi gets a decent run at this

yep. I am sick of being manipulated. I don’t even know who is doing it any more.

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1dayatatime · 24/10/2022 18:19

stuntbubbles · 24/10/2022 18:04

Settle down, proles. Just let the rich carry on destroying your lives. And in fact it’s not the government’s fault: it’s yours, prole, for agitating.

Actually to be fair it's not the rich who are to blame but the 17 million who voted for Brexit and the 14 million that voted Conservative in 2019.

PeekabooAtTheZoo · 24/10/2022 18:20

I genuinely don't know how to vote anymore but I agree he should have a chance. And we already heard his policies 2 months ago, it's not like he's a total unknown. He was the right man for the job then and now.

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AnyFucker · 24/10/2022 18:20

I was neither of those groups of people. I would like the chance to go back and change both those things. We can’t.

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MarshaBradyo · 24/10/2022 18:20

Whizzi24 · 24/10/2022 18:18

The only reason I want the Coonservativea to stay in charge for the near future is that I think there is too much of a mess for Labour to sort out now and they might only get one term if they don't turn things around quick enough. Let RS (hopefully) make a start of things. Although I can't say I have that much confidence.

However, I work in education and we cannot withstand any further spending cuts. That's my biggest fear - for schools and the NHS.

Labour coming in now would be interesting but I’m not convinced it wouldn’t be very hard over the winter. Everyone would expect their extra funds

myquicheisbetterthanyourquiche · 24/10/2022 18:20

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Oh fucking hell, it's like going back to 2003 and the MN "Royalty" Hmm school playground all over again. However, does that mean we no longer have to have "lighthearted" in thread titles about "AIBU to think that pineapple doesn't belong on pizza?"

FWIW, OP, I agree with your OP.

There's a very credible opposition. That, by contrast, is bollocks.

Original poster
AnyFucker · 24/10/2022 18:21

Just leave the daft “royalty” stuff be. It’s not relevant to the thread, or even at all.

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funnymummmy · 24/10/2022 18:21

How can the people that caused the mess suddenly fix it?

Ragingoverlife · 24/10/2022 18:22

It's honestly like watching a conga line of drunk idiots causing carnage everywhere they go, and occasionally they change who's at the front.

Scepticalwotsits · 24/10/2022 18:22

The fact the tori was still trot out blaming labour forn2008 when it’s was an international crisis sparked by sun prime mortgages in the USA and Gordon brown was the only person who held the international banking system together. That and even in 2008 as the crisis was unfolding they were calling for deregulation as a solution means that if they want sympathy now they can go and do one.

is the current global economic issues their making, nope but brexit it and that’s making it worse for us, as is their ineptitude.

so no I won’t calm down and the sooner we can get these idiots out of office the better it will be for the country.

Post credit was a low tax , low benefit high wage dream, it’s a pipe dream which truss tried to ram through. You cannot have Scandinavian style spending on US taxes

elastamum · 24/10/2022 18:22

We are right at the bottom of the barrel when it comes to assembling a competent government from the Tory party. Boris chucked all the moderates and heavyweights out because they wouldn't support his disastrous version of Brexit. Even Rory Stewart admitted that he was now far closer to labour in terms of policy than he is to the current government. But it's their mess, so let's see if they can fix it - they can't.

PerfectlyPreservedQuagaarWarrior · 24/10/2022 18:25

We are right at the bottom of the barrel when it comes to assembling a competent government from the Tory party. Boris chucked all the moderates and heavyweights out because they wouldn't support his disastrous version of Brexit.

Yep. The assumption that the ingredients are now there for a stable government that we can all leave to do their job is incredibly optimistic.

AffronttoBS · 24/10/2022 18:25

Of course the new PM will get a free pass from the MSM, WEF, etc. he is the right man for the job in their eyes. Even though he also got fined and created this mess, when he was the irresponsible chancellor. But , make no mistake, he does not have the interest of the UK at heart, he has no stake in it, and his loyalties lies elsewhere.