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Rishi is PM - coronation, unelected -GE Now

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MrsRobinsonsHandprints · 24/10/2022 14:06

This is not democracy.

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onthefencesitter · 24/10/2022 14:07

I would like him to sort out the mess that the Tories have caused so that when Labour get into power in 2024, they would inherit better finances and can actually deliver on their manifesto commitments.

RishyWashy · 24/10/2022 14:08

No it's not democracy. It's fucking dreadful.

lifeturnsonadime · 24/10/2022 14:08

I think Rishi is the best person given the financial mess we are in.

MrsRobinsonsHandprints · 24/10/2022 14:09

onthefencesitter · 24/10/2022 14:07

I would like him to sort out the mess that the Tories have caused so that when Labour get into power in 2024, they would inherit better finances and can actually deliver on their manifesto commitments.

I'm not even a Labour supporter but can see your reasoning.

I believe in democracy, this isn't it.

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RishyWashy · 24/10/2022 14:09

High taxation Rishi. The middle can be prepared to be squeezed even more.

Proudtory · 24/10/2022 14:09

No longer a proud tory today, just canceled my membership. This was the last straw for me and many more members I know. Sorry you can only push your members so far.

MrsRobinsonsHandprints · 24/10/2022 14:10

lifeturnsonadime · 24/10/2022 14:08

I think Rishi is the best person given the financial mess we are in.

The financial mess that he created?

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sst1234 · 24/10/2022 14:10

Why is it not democracy? Were you living in some parallel political system in 2019 where you voted for a PM rather than you local MP?

Vaccine001 · 24/10/2022 14:10

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AllThingsServeTheBeam · 24/10/2022 14:10

Proudtory · 24/10/2022 14:09

No longer a proud tory today, just canceled my membership. This was the last straw for me and many more members I know. Sorry you can only push your members so far.

Blimey.. what have you been proud of over the last 12 years?!

donquixotedelamancha · 24/10/2022 14:10

Yes, it is. In effect MPs 'elect' the PM, this has been the case for a very long time.

The US system of a directly elected executive is not better- they often can't pass legislation and are essentially impossible to remove from office.

Namechangeforthis88 · 24/10/2022 14:11

I don't understand why it isn't democracy? What have I missed? You never get to vote for the PM, you vote for the representative for your constituency, then the party with the majority form a government and decide the PM. You never had the choice of who was PM.

AnyFucker · 24/10/2022 14:12

There is no mechanism for a General Election unless the Tories call for one. It’s not going to happen. I do wish people would stop parroting this.

sst1234 · 24/10/2022 14:13

Buckle up people. Now it’s time to pay for Rishi’s largesse when he borrowed and printed half a trillion pounds so that you could stay at home and bake banana bread and watch Netflix. Don’t remember anyone in these quarters complaining why healthy people were locked at home while the economy was being destroyed. Why so much rage at Rishi now?

Withnoshoes · 24/10/2022 14:13

You don’t vote for pm fair enough but I also didn’t vote for the party, but it’s wrong that the party can just change their leader so easily twice . within a few months without any say so from the public.

BMW6 · 24/10/2022 14:13

I don't understand the "this is not democracy" posts - the Conservative party won the last GE, not the Boris Johnson party.

Believeitornot · 24/10/2022 14:13

onthefencesitter · 24/10/2022 14:07

I would like him to sort out the mess that the Tories have caused so that when Labour get into power in 2024, they would inherit better finances and can actually deliver on their manifesto commitments.

Yep

Whataretheodds · 24/10/2022 14:13

@MrsRobinsonsHandprints which of the 2019 manifesto commitments are you concerned he won't deliver?

@Proudtory what are you upset about?

Believeitornot · 24/10/2022 14:14

BMW6 · 24/10/2022 14:13

I don't understand the "this is not democracy" posts - the Conservative party won the last GE, not the Boris Johnson party.

The bigger issue is that any old Joe can be a Conservative party member

Namechangeforthis88 · 24/10/2022 14:14

It's remarkable that someone could be proud tory for all these years and in all that time never noticed that they didn't elect the PM. Just by coincidence the first time they notice is the first time the PM isn't white. Suddenly they can only be pushed so far.

MarshaBradyo · 24/10/2022 14:14

sst1234 · 24/10/2022 14:10

Why is it not democracy? Were you living in some parallel political system in 2019 where you voted for a PM rather than you local MP?

Yep this

Pieceofpurplesky · 24/10/2022 14:14

Sunak caused the mess we are in. His party have been in power for years.
He is also corrupt and as chancellor cut universal credit. He has money stowed away in the Cayman Islands and his own wealth increased over lockdown.
It will remain that he and his ilk get richer whilst a lot still suffer

DrManhattan · 24/10/2022 14:15

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DullAndOvercast · 24/10/2022 14:15

It's how a parliamentary democracy works.

The biggest party form the government and their leader gets invited by the King to form next government -( in our current version of it).

It is what we currently have.

I have to say I could be persuaded now more than ever that electoral reform is needed - but it shows a very concerning lack of understanding about how our system currently works to say it's not democratic.

Believeitornot · 24/10/2022 14:15

Namechangeforthis88 · 24/10/2022 14:11

I don't understand why it isn't democracy? What have I missed? You never get to vote for the PM, you vote for the representative for your constituency, then the party with the majority form a government and decide the PM. You never had the choice of who was PM.

I think technical arguments miss the point and you know it.

That would only stick if Prime Ministers see themselves as delivering the mandate upon which their party was elected. They don’t!

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