Rishi is PM - coronation, unelected -GE Now

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This is not democracy.

Anyway let's see how he gets on with the ERG lunatics. I'm sure some of them are already sending letters in to Graham Brady.

Quite.
I honestly think some people think it's just a bigger version of a TV talent show or something.

So we wouldn't have a parliamentary democracy under Labour? Never seen that in their manifesto.

Voters generally vote for the candidate of the party they wish to form the government and so indirectly for the PM. Bit disingenuous to suggest they don’t.

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Sorry I meant to say policies and behavior. Boris, such impeccable behavior 😂. But he is white.

Well, it is. You vote for your constituency representative and the party votes for its leader. That some people don't understand that this is what you're doing doesn't detract from the reality and truth of it.

The only people who voted for Boris were the constituents of Uxbridge.

As for the tax comments, I really don't know why people are so desperate to broadcast their ignorance of our taxation system.

I was coming here to say this. No one seems to understand the system we have here!

Of course he was elected, just like every other MP.

How is it not?!

The UK is a Representative Parliamentary Democracy, so it's very much part of the British Constitution. The exact same holds true with a Labour PM in post in the same manner.

We don't and never have elected PMs. What we do is elect a party to government and the governing party selects the PM. Again, the exact same holds true for Labour.

We do consent to the constitutional arrangement each time we vote, for example. And we are taxed on the basis of Parliamentary Representation.

The UK is in the Top 20 in the Democracy Index. You might be surprised which countries we're ahead of - France, Italy, Portugal and Japan are all lower down the ranking than the UK whereas the Republic of Ireland is literally just 0.06 points ahead of us equating to just one place above.

I’d be saying exactly the same thing if it was a Labour government that was changing leaders so often they needed to fit No 10 with a revolving door.

I will admit my ignorance as to why Sunak is unpopular though. I agree with @BMW6 that - like many criticised corporations, companies etc - Mrs Sunak appears to have paid her taxes in accordance with the law. So I don’t see why that’s an issue.

As for Sunak being “a snake” - why? Because he was involved in getting rid of the massive party’s-future-risking liability that was Johnson? I’m not a Tory voter but I can absolutely see why MPs wanted to ditch someone who seriously risked them losing the next election.

you may not remember but a significant number of Tories cried 'this is undemocratic' when Gordon Brown succeeded Blair. Boris Johnson at the time wrote an article for the Telegraph saying it was a "palace coup" and a "North Korean" move that "trampled on the democratic will of the British people."

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Osborne’s disastrous austerity and war on the disabled - fine. Johnson’s incompetence and lying and economy wrecking Brexit - fine. Liz Truss finishing the country off - fine. BUT THIS IS THE LAST STRAW! lol

"We" (by which I definitely don't mean me!) elected the Tories and them setting their rules for choosing a leader comes as part and parcel of that. We're not the USA and the public don't get to pick a Head of State or the PM. I'd like a GE sooner rather than later before the hard of thinking forget what a clusterfuck the Tories have been but...I don't see this as undemocratic.

Equally I think people who roll out the "you don't vote for a PM" are deliberately missing they point.

This government have been an absolute shambles over the last 2 years.

@BrightYellowDaffodil I’m with you. It’ll be too soon! The fact that well educated people don’t understand how our democracy works on even a basic level is, frankly, worrying. I may petition for better education, do people not learn about this at school?!

This is not democracy

Sunak was rejected as party leader by the Tory party membership but has been imposed on us regardless.

His wife's tax dealings were legal yes, but it really sticks in the throat of those of us with far less income who pay taxes. To be wife of the then Chancellor really does rub salt in the wounds.

Spot on!!

Further, there's been enough conversation about it if people would care to actually read and listen.

Rishi did not want the lockdowns we had. However, as that was the decision taken there had to be financial support provided to those who were legally not permitted to go to work.

Did everyone shouting 'General Election now!' shout the same when Gordon Brown became PM after Blair

His wife does pay taxes on UK income.

So Rishi wanted more people to die?

Yes they did. I remember!

I refer you to my earlier post:

you may not remember but a significant number of Tories cried 'this is undemocratic' when Gordon Brown succeeded Blair. Boris Johnson at the time wrote an article for the Telegraph saying it was a "palace coup" and a "North Korean" move that "trampled on the democratic will of the British people."

How is this any different to Teresa May and Boris?