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To end a 30+ year friendship over this?

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Loulou572 · 22/10/2022 20:26

One of my longest and closest friends, Emily (not real name) has a 25 year old dd, Poppy, with high functioning autism. She’s a lovely beautiful girl who half the time you would never even know had autism but it still sometimes makes her hard to communicate with until she feels comfortable and she can freeze up or avoids talking to people even if she already knows them well. She is currently living at home at Emily’s house with her boyfriend as they’re waiting for the house purchase to be completely finished in the new year.

Last weekend DD and I went to a bar in our town. It was around 10pm and Poppy comes in, I didn’t want to bother her, especially as I didn’t think she’d welcome it due to how she normally is, so smiled and gave a quick wave as she walked past and she went off into the toilet. About half hour later we was sat in the smoking area and she comes over, she was very chatty and asking alot of questions which is very unusual for her, I assumed she was just drunk but DD pointed out her and all her friends were chewing gum and thought it may have been MDMA or coke they were on as it causes issues with the jaw and “that’s the only time people chew gum on nights out”. She went to the bar to get a drink and when dd and I went inside a few minutes later she wasn’t there but there was
a couple of poor bar staff cleaning up a huge amount of sick on the floor and apparently a girl had been kicked out (didn’t realise this was her at that time)

About an hour later we left the bar and saw her getting escorted out of a second bar, I checked on her and she was definitely on drugs as her pupils were enormous, I asked her boyfriend what’s gone on and he said they were kicked out because she was sick, I asked why she was sick and was it her in the other bar, it was and they don’t know why she was being sick as there was no build up “she was talking and suddenly large amounts of sick just came pouring out her mouth”, one of her friends suggested it was sensory thing due to the loud music and lights but it was obviously due to the drugs. I offered to call her mum to get her as it was just gone 11 at the time but they said they already booked a taxi.

Sunday afternoon I text Emily to check how poppy was just saying we saw her last night and she didn’t seem too fresh. Emily said she’s all good, got in a 4am but she had a good night. I checked what time we had booked our taxi home which was shortly after she had got into her taxi as I didn’t feel comfortable leaving her and it was 11:48 so i don’t know where she was until 4am. I decided to call emily and tell her about the sick, getting kicked out of 2 bars, the drugs, and leaving before midnight despite not arriving home until 4. Emily says she already knows about poppy using drugs and says it’s ecstasy pills that she has a testing kit for so knows what she’s taking (can that be true though?). She being using it on and off since 2018 and Emily has just decided to ignore it because there’s not much she can do seeing as she’s an adult with her own money, it’s not often and it gives poppy the chance to go out and enjoy nights out like others in their 20s without her autism getting in the way.

I talked about this with a mutual friend who is closer to Poppy who apparently also knew and doesn’t see any issue, she sent me links to studies on how mdma/ecstasy helps with the social anxiety that comes with autism but all the studies are old bar a few and when doing my own research I found some that argued against it. I’ve expressed how uncomfortable it makes me and said to one of our friends I don’t think I can carry on a friendship knowing Emily is condoning illegal drug use and everyone’s piled in on me and some are even claiming my DD only suspected the drug use due to her also using drugs which is not true.

On one hand I know it’s not my business, poppy is a lovely girl with a good job and does fine most the time and Emily is normally very straight edged but on the other hand I don’t understand how any parent can be aware of their children using horrid drugs and just shrugging it off, it’s made me question the type of person Emily is and how I’ve not had an inkling she was like this before, I also don’t like how they dragged my dd into it with their false accusations.

OP posts:
ELOU1111 · 26/10/2022 00:13

If you and your perfect daughter actually gave a shit you would've been in the taxi home with Poppy.

Tiggee2001 · 26/10/2022 10:36

Hi,
this makes me really sad that you are considering ending your friendship because of the decisions your friend and her adult daughter have made. However I do not believe you are unreasonable as drugs do wreak lives and I can understand your level of concern. But she is your friend, and she probably needs your support because if she is anything like my parents they have been at their wits end numerous times.

It is possible “Emily” does not condone the Behaviour of Poppy I say this because I am the oldest of 3. Myself and my younger brother are very straight laced and just plod along in life.

My middle brother however is a functioning addict (he holds down a job in a skilled trade). He started on cannabis at 14 and has tried most drugs that do not include a needle (he has a needle phobia). However, his drugs of choice are cannabis and cocaine.

Now my parents have tried EVERYTHING. They have gone to parent groups to understand him, they have even sent him to Private and state run rehabs. They have thrown him out, they have sent him to live in another part of the country away from the people he conducts this behaviour around. He comes off of the drugs for a limited time and then bang he’s back on them and in his downward spiral again.

What I’m trying to point out is that none of us (the family) condone it, agree with how he lives his life or like seeing him in the state when he is high but he is an adult and unfortunately it’s a case of, we all disown him and then he has no one, or he does it somewhere else and returns home once he has come down, and is ready to be a functioning member of society again.

Another point to this experience is that my brother is a big part of why I have medicated anxiety as when I was younger (early 20’s) I was always sure most phone calls were to inform me something had happened to him. It’s not easy been In a family with an addict as you obviously loves them but at the same time they are an young adult just as another POV.

I do not know if this will help you to see another POV but as a real account I hope it can maybe help you understand Emily’s motive to trying to protect her adult daughter x

Tiggee2001 · 26/10/2022 10:59

Tiggee2001 · 26/10/2022 10:36

Hi,
this makes me really sad that you are considering ending your friendship because of the decisions your friend and her adult daughter have made. However I do not believe you are unreasonable as drugs do wreak lives and I can understand your level of concern. But she is your friend, and she probably needs your support because if she is anything like my parents they have been at their wits end numerous times.

It is possible “Emily” does not condone the Behaviour of Poppy I say this because I am the oldest of 3. Myself and my younger brother are very straight laced and just plod along in life.

My middle brother however is a functioning addict (he holds down a job in a skilled trade). He started on cannabis at 14 and has tried most drugs that do not include a needle (he has a needle phobia). However, his drugs of choice are cannabis and cocaine.

Now my parents have tried EVERYTHING. They have gone to parent groups to understand him, they have even sent him to Private and state run rehabs. They have thrown him out, they have sent him to live in another part of the country away from the people he conducts this behaviour around. He comes off of the drugs for a limited time and then bang he’s back on them and in his downward spiral again.

What I’m trying to point out is that none of us (the family) condone it, agree with how he lives his life or like seeing him in the state when he is high but he is an adult and unfortunately it’s a case of, we all disown him and then he has no one, or he does it somewhere else and returns home once he has come down, and is ready to be a functioning member of society again.

Another point to this experience is that my brother is a big part of why I have medicated anxiety as when I was younger (early 20’s) I was always sure most phone calls were to inform me something had happened to him. It’s not easy been In a family with an addict as you obviously loves them but at the same time they are an young adult just as another POV.

I do not know if this will help you to see another POV but as a real account I hope it can maybe help you understand Emily’s motive to trying to protect her adult daughter x

I also thought of something else. Ignore posters above that the chewing gum means your DD is on drugs this is a common knowledge comment but it doesn't mean all people chewing gum on a night out are doing drugs. I regularly chew gum on nights out and I have NEVER done drugs. Plus if she is or is not or has tried them or has not, MOST children experiment but that's not anyones business that's a conversation with your daughter and a private matter in your family which you may or may not want to disclose or seek support or help for. Eg no one's else's business !!! Grin
Anyone else that differs from this post because the daughter is not missing for 4 hours or been sick in a public bar causing worry to people around her therefore that's no one else's business about OP daughter x

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