Boris Johnson vs Rishi Sunak

[colddayinhell]

I think both are awful and we should have a general election but if you had to choose between these two, who would you choose to be PM?

YANBU = Boris
YABU = Rishi

I prefer Sunak as he’s better for stability atm

As a labour supporter I would prefer Johnson, he will probably have to resign again due to some scandal which surely would mean a general election. The less time this evil government is in power the better whoever the PM is.

@AdoraBell but didn’t Sunak get fined for lockdown parties as well?

I don't think he told as many lies to parliament? We really are scraping the bottom of the barrel here!

To me there seems a high risk of more instability once the Privileges Committee concludes end of the year/start of next and then we are very possibly back to square one AGAIN if BJ returns as PM. Though who knows whether RS will escalate unscathed

Sorry not a great source but non paywall :

www.itv.com/news/2022-10-21/damning-partygate-evidence-means-boris-johnson-could-be-gone-by-christmas

People
on here are unbelievable. EVERYONE was happy to bleat on about lockdowns. Everyone was riding the “furlough wave”. Everyone was reporting neighbours and bitching and moaning about leaving the house.

everyone is now pissed off at the govt funding the lockdown?! They cowtowed to pressure, as every fucking party would have done. We are in this position fiscally because of 1) initial panic and ignorance and then 2) just trying to do what the people wanted.

Boris is a selfish prick and Rishi is perfectly fine and credible. The conservatives are a shitshow and hopefully they will pick rishi and things will improve but let’s not pretend things would be better after the covid aftermath with labour in charge (NB not counting the farcical 6 weeks that have just happened where truss shit all over everyone and everything for no reason whatsoever )

🤣🤣🤣🤣

YABU

It’s obviously insane that boris is even an option. Rishi came second in the leadership and should just be made PM.

there’s a great article in the Times about how, essentially, people picked a moron who can’t even give speeches over Rishi because he’s rich. It’s inverted snobbery and stupid - he was better for the job.

Stop with the amateur dramatics. The prolonged lockdowns will cost far more lives, even in the medium term.

And we wouldn't have had the prolonged lockdowns if we'd locked down sooner and prevented the spread we we had to lockdown to prevent spreading so fast.

massive unaffordable welfare state and spending

Wait until Labour get in - then you’ll see a massive unaffordable welfare state and spending.

Wow:

twitter.com/Otto_English/status/1583811214064295938?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1583811214064295938%7Ctwgr%5E22bc48044a05e0da8596cd6ac1e62799c91de270%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.spurscommunity.co.uk%2Findex.php%3Fthreads%2Fthe-british-politics-thread-read-first-post.143874%2Fpage-1064

Let’s face it. If it’s BJ, it will not last the 2 years until the next general election. He will be kicked out (resisting all the way) for breaking the ministerial code over lying to parliament. I know he has not been found guilty (yet) but only Nadine Dories (bless) truly believes he didn’t deliberately mislead parliament.

so I’m going for Rishi as “The economy stupid”. We need some stability and competence in the economy. JH is competent, but two competent people in charge would be better atm. I completely disagree with RS politics, he is far too liberal, but at least he knows what he’s doing. He has also proven able to disregard his political beliefs, when they were inappropriate eg furlough.

wrt a general election- we should have been voting for an MP, not a President (PM), so all the rubbish about BJ having a mandate is wrong, or should be. My MP is Conservative- I didn’t vote for him, but I still expect him to represent me.

Sunak is the better option of the two. I think the markets are more likely to settle with him as PM. And surely Boris can't come back? I mean, it's enough of a bloody spectacle without reinstating an ousted pm.

I didn't agree with any of the lockdowns and I thought the vaccine roll out was pretty good to be fair. I don't like the guy or any of the others but the circus is keeping me distracted from all the misery in the world.

Which one is which? I'm going with Sunak as syphillis and Boris as gonnorhoea?

@RIPQueen I think it was more to do with his social democratic economic policies. They don’t tend to go down well with conservative members.

His wealth is also relevant because his wealth is in a different league to everyone else’s, except the absolute super rich, and therefore none of his policies will have any impact on his lifestyle.

Lord Frost who worked on Brexit and more recent Northern Ireland negotiations is backing Sunak.

That tells us something.

"We ended up with Liz Truss because Johnson and his allies orchestrated it. He's been planning his return since the day he resigned."

I totally agree. This has all just been a game to them. Liz truss was the cautionary tale to show how bad it could be

I would settle myself if Sunak was steering the ship. I'd prefer him as chancellor, but they've decided to go with stability in some form by keeping Hunt there for now. The FT have even called for a general election. We need some intelligence and stability right now. Sunak and Boris both have experience (I also think that they're both very intelligent). If I had a million to invest and I only had 2 options, I'd choose Sunak. For leadership though? Boris is liked (unbelievably perhaps) around the world and Sunak isn't really into the bullshit that's required of a PM.

I almost give up at this point. I spoke to some friends last night (NHS) and they were actually both happy to see Boris back in the game as it couldn't get worse than what we've had.

That's how I feel too.

According to BBC Boris has the backing of 100 MPs 🤦‍♀️

Really I think we need a general election.

But if I had to pick it would be Rishi.