Page 6 | Boris Johnson vs Rishi Sunak

colddayinhell · 2022-10-22T13:45:35+00:00

I think both are awful and we should have a general election but if you had to choose between these two, who would you choose to be PM? YANBU = Boris YABU = Rishi

WhereIam · 22/10/2022 18:25

TheColorIndigo · 22/10/2022 18:24

"What manner of potato would you team with beef bourguignon?"
was the name of the thread I accidentally opened instead of this one as it was sitting directly below it.
Both too good to be Tory MPs.

Did you just insult a potato?

derxa · 22/10/2022 18:28

Morceaux · 22/10/2022 18:23

There were a lot more decent Tories not that long ago.

Boris expelled them.

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Who?

WhereIam · 22/10/2022 18:28

Jeremy Corbyn (sorry, I'm terrible with names).
It's tiktok but if you listen, he really speaks a little bit of sense.

www.tiktok.com/@doubledownnews/video/7153186003505777925?is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1&q=jeremy%20corby&t=1666459619811

DublinFemale · 22/10/2022 18:29

@Blossomtoes

I hope I'm wrong, i am hoping for calmer voices than BJ and LT. it affects my country too. The rhetoric to date of them from both of them is unpleasant. But I honestly just don't think Labour will get a majority in 2025.

Perhaps right now the Tories will take a battering and maybe a coalition.

From the outside it comes across as almost anything but Labour at times.

Polls are not gospel, it's words people say and people say what they think people want to hear. ime the only poll potentially accurate is the poll after the votes are cast.

As I said this is what I am picking up from the outside looking in.

Livelovebehappy · 22/10/2022 18:30

SleeplessInEngland · 22/10/2022 18:19

Absolutely don’t want a general election. You can sense Keir hysterically pushing for one, because he sees this as coming in through the back door,

Winning general election is the exact opposite of ‘coming in through the back door’.

But he would be coming in through the back door, because the hysteria atm is because the Tories are in total chaos. If they manage to sort out the chaos, and things settle down within the next couple of months, which I expect they will if they get the right person in, then Labour would be back to the position they were in before all this kicked off. Labour wouldn’t be getting in on their policies, but would be getting in due to people losing total confidence in the Tory party, which is as far as I’m concerned, coming in through the back door.

WhereIam · 22/10/2022 18:30

DublinFemale · 22/10/2022 18:29

@Blossomtoes

I hope I'm wrong, i am hoping for calmer voices than BJ and LT. it affects my country too. The rhetoric to date of them from both of them is unpleasant. But I honestly just don't think Labour will get a majority in 2025.

Perhaps right now the Tories will take a battering and maybe a coalition.

From the outside it comes across as almost anything but Labour at times.

Polls are not gospel, it's words people say and people say what they think people want to hear. ime the only poll potentially accurate is the poll after the votes are cast.

As I said this is what I am picking up from the outside looking in.

It is. It's akin to the anyone but Sinn Fein rhetoric in Ireland.

Blossomtoes · 22/10/2022 18:30

Tiktok? Come back when you’ve grown up.

DublinFemale · 22/10/2022 18:32

@derxa

Rory Stewart appeared to be a person who had beliefs.

Don't know a lot about the others but he always stood out to me.

As with most (maybe all) probably had skeletons also.

WhereIam · 22/10/2022 18:32

Livelovebehappy · 22/10/2022 18:30

But he would be coming in through the back door, because the hysteria atm is because the Tories are in total chaos. If they manage to sort out the chaos, and things settle down within the next couple of months, which I expect they will if they get the right person in, then Labour would be back to the position they were in before all this kicked off. Labour wouldn’t be getting in on their policies, but would be getting in due to people losing total confidence in the Tory party, which is as far as I’m concerned, coming in through the back door.

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The FT is calling for a General Election. My only reason against not having one, would be to ensure stability in the markets. If the FT is calling for one, I have no objection to one. I would not, nor have I ever, vote Tory.

This thread is about BJ vs Sunak. I was keeping my comments on topic.

WhereIam · 22/10/2022 18:33

Blossomtoes · 22/10/2022 18:30

Tiktok? Come back when you’ve grown up.

Come back when you've learned how to use it.

SleeplessInEngland · 22/10/2022 18:34

Whatever side you’re on its objectively hilarious that Johnson’s camp are pretending to have over a hundred backers right now.

Blossomtoes · 22/10/2022 18:35

WhereIam · 22/10/2022 18:33

Come back when you've learned how to use it.

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😂😂😂😂😂

ThirtyThreeTrees · 22/10/2022 18:35

It beggars belief that with a UK population of over 60million, that it comes down to a choice between those two.

With the state of the UK economy, the impact of Brexit, the aftermath of Liz Truss, how can anyone believe that reinstating a previously fired PM, who has zero credibility remaining internationally makes any sense or is even on option?

How are people accepting this as a potential outcome? It is nothing short of insanity.

Mulledwhynot · 22/10/2022 18:37

I think Rishi is more competent and people are fickle - so if he becomes PM they have a shot of winning the next GE. Therefore, I never thought I'd say this, but I'm thinking Boris 🤮.

Whatafustercluck · 22/10/2022 18:37

I am torn on this. Sunak is the best candidate to steer the country. But I'm almost hoping for Johnson so he can apply the final nail in the coffin for the Tories. He'll fail again as PM for any number of reasons and then I think they'll be forced to call a GE. With Sunak there's every chance the electorate will take to him, forget the past few years of chaos entirely, and the Tories will climb their way back in the polls. Basically, I want the Tories out. And I don't think people have suffered enough yet to not vote them back in again, despite what the polls currently say.

DublinFemale · 22/10/2022 18:39

That's it exactly @WhereIam it looks like that looking in.

Now in fairness we are in for a shitshow in December when the Taoiseach switches over.

And I look at SF economic plans and they are scary. We would have the IMF back if they get to do what they are proposing.

FourTeaFallOut · 22/10/2022 18:40

God, surely Labour supporters have enough faith in their own party to win a general election after the shambles of Brexit-Covid-EnergyCrisis-Cost of living crisis-crashing pound cluster fuck with needing to cross their fingers and hope that Boris gets in and seals the deal?

WhereIam · 22/10/2022 18:41

Whatafustercluck · 22/10/2022 18:37

I am torn on this. Sunak is the best candidate to steer the country. But I'm almost hoping for Johnson so he can apply the final nail in the coffin for the Tories. He'll fail again as PM for any number of reasons and then I think they'll be forced to call a GE. With Sunak there's every chance the electorate will take to him, forget the past few years of chaos entirely, and the Tories will climb their way back in the polls. Basically, I want the Tories out. And I don't think people have suffered enough yet to not vote them back in again, despite what the polls currently say.

I don't give a fuck who is in charge or what party they're under if they can keep the fucking country going. Seriously? You're that obsessed with party politics?

I would vote for The Yacht Party party if I thought it would keep the economy going. I've never been on a yacht

I don't get this allegiance to parties.

Blossomtoes · 22/10/2022 18:42

How are people accepting this as a potential outcome? It is nothing short of insanity.

You only have to read this thread. When people think wanting honest, decent politicians is utopian, it’s obvious they’ll put up with anything. We’ve got the politicians we deserve. God help us.

blackpearwhitelilies · 22/10/2022 18:42

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 22/10/2022 16:31

Except that circus is an actual country, which the Tories keep throwing to the dogs.

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Christ. How can anyone enjoy this. People have died and others’ livelihoods have been ruined.
Guess it explains how he keeps getting back.
I fucking despair.

WhereIam · 22/10/2022 18:43

ThirtyThreeTrees · 22/10/2022 18:35

It beggars belief that with a UK population of over 60million, that it comes down to a choice between those two.

With the state of the UK economy, the impact of Brexit, the aftermath of Liz Truss, how can anyone believe that reinstating a previously fired PM, who has zero credibility remaining internationally makes any sense or is even on option?

How are people accepting this as a potential outcome? It is nothing short of insanity.

He's not disliked internationally.

WhereIam · 22/10/2022 18:45

Blossomtoes · 22/10/2022 18:42

How are people accepting this as a potential outcome? It is nothing short of insanity.

You only have to read this thread. When people think wanting honest, decent politicians is utopian, it’s obvious they’ll put up with anything. We’ve got the politicians we deserve. God help us.

Do you know of one? Which one?

MarshaBradyo · 22/10/2022 18:45

RIPQueen · 22/10/2022 16:49

People
on here are unbelievable. EVERYONE was happy to bleat on about lockdowns. Everyone was riding the “furlough wave”. Everyone was reporting neighbours and bitching and moaning about leaving the house.

everyone is now pissed off at the govt funding the lockdown?! They cowtowed to pressure, as every fucking party would have done. We are in this position fiscally because of 1) initial panic and ignorance and then 2) just trying to do what the people wanted.

Boris is a selfish prick and Rishi is perfectly fine and credible. The conservatives are a shitshow and hopefully they will pick rishi and things will improve but let’s not pretend things would be better after the covid aftermath with labour in charge (NB not counting the farcical 6 weeks that have just happened where truss shit all over everyone and everything for no reason whatsoever )

Yep this too.

WeAreTheHeroes · 22/10/2022 18:46

Being liked and having credibility are two different things.

Catterbat · 22/10/2022 18:48

SwedishEdith · 22/10/2022 15:23

I'm leaning to the idea that it should be Johnson so he can then eventually bring the whole Tory party/Leave cult down for good when his next scandal breaks.

Yep! Sunak could feasibly carry the government to the next election. Fuck that, get Boris back in charge, they’ll be gone by February.