Boris Johnson vs Rishi Sunak

[colddayinhell]

I think both are awful and we should have a general election but if you had to choose between these two, who would you choose to be PM?

YANBU = Boris
YABU = Rishi

bats off Starmer and his idiocy too in a humorous way

aka, repeating the Jimmy Saville slur under protection of parliamentary privilege against the explicit advice of his policy advisor who subsequently resigned in disgust.

A man for whom no stoop is too low.

I think taking Boris back would be a mistake. But I can understand why people may feel that way. Looking back, I suspect many feel that the things they ousted him over were ultimatly small potatoes compared to current issues, that it was at least in part a media created situation, and that actually finding a reasonable replacement might not be so simple.

So what they really want is to reverse what happened.

But - you can't reverse time. I think Sunak would be the better choice, but I preferred him over Truss in the race. Neither is really conservative IMO, but I just think that Truss was in over her head. A lot in the PMs job comes down to listening to the right people, and she didn't.

I think we could put Hunt as leader and sunak as chancellor.

Jeez it's like choosing between being shot or shat on

Sorry, why? It’s not illegal. She hasn’t done anything wrong. She isn’t a politician either - he is.

“AIBU my husband wants me to structure my finances to benefit his career rather than myself”
Everyone on MN “LTB”

same thing happens to someone well spoken and obviously they’re the devil because public schools boys are the worst thing you can be according to MN

And then those same constituencies voted for Brexit and the Conservatives. You couldn’t make it up.

I don’t think we should have anything to do with Modi’s government. He’s awful. Plus any deal with India would be be based on the UK waiving visa requirements for Indians to work here. This wouldn’t be popular.

When did he pay £750k for the Notting Hill house? 1990? Makes the rest of your posts less credible.

Tax dodging is often legal, but that doesn’t make it okay. You may be fine with his billionaire wife declaring non-dom status whilst living in the UK (and her husband is chancellor!), but I don’t have to be.

then all the bitching that Rishi is too rich to know how to relate to anyone. Well he knew enough to provide furlough and there were an awful lot of people learning to make sourdough and sitting in the sun doing nothing and being able to pay their rent and mortgages because of Rishi’s distinctly socialist approach to the lockdown.

Understanding that there cannot be a lockdown without the state paying lots of people enough money to stay at home and behave themselves is hardly evidence of insight. I do think he's probably going to be the PM within a few days, but it's not because he was capable of understanding something that was exceptionally bleeding obvious.

Rishi seems to have the numbers to be a candidate as far as I can see on the news. The country, however, will not elect him so either way the tories are stuffed.

“AIBU my husband wants me to structure my finances to benefit his career rather than myself”
Everyone on MN “LTB”

This isn't a fair representation of the situation.
AIBU my husband is responsible for making big decisions that affect millions of people's finances. Trust and credibility really matter. I have taken advantage of a tax loophole only available to the very rich. Should I continue to do so even though it is at best going to bring his judgement into question and threaten his career?

I mean, she didn't have to renounce her non dom status of course. But continuing with it was an unbelievably bad political decision for him. If she disagreed I'm sure she can afford a good divorce lawyer.

Of course he is British and he has obviously had an upbringing which is unremarkable for a wealthy, British, Asian family. His wife's family are his big problem. Their links to Modhi and what that could mean in terms of exerting influence behind the scenes. Because of their wealth disparity, he is, in a sense, bought and should be viewed through that lens. It is not a good look for somebody who wants to be put at the helm of this creaky, leaky old ship.

I'd take the man on the moon if he could settle the markets.

Slightly prefer Rishi Sunak (I don't agree with his politics, but he hasn't done as many overtly crass and infuriating things yet) but would rather not have any Conservative at all.

The difference between Rishi and BJ isn’t about not losing the next GE, that’s a given without some kind of miracle.

it’s about how long it’ll be before the number of Tory MPs is sufficient to come anywhere near close to challenging for power ever again.

if this shit show goes to the frankly criminally insane Tory membership and they choose boris, it’ll be decades before anyone even realises there’s a Tory party.

He was born in Britain, he is as British as any other British person. Johnson was born in the USA so is technically less British than Sunak. Sunak is dishonest, out of touch, only interested in rich people like him. He will be a dreadful PM but it is racist to suggest he isn't British.

The country wouldn’t elect any of them so it’s a moot point. They could resurrect Churchill to lead them and they’d still be defeated.

Neither.
GE is the only way out of this farce.

And yet you feel compelled to chastise those for voting differently to you and you have so little faith in the Labour party that you won't countenance any criticism of them.

A lot of people in the country think like this. Brown or Black skin =/= Britishness to them. This is why he won't win
The only way he could win would be to offer every household in the UK a one-off payment of £50k non-repayable to help with 'cost of living' and the second he reneges on that he'd be out. Rishi hasn't a hope in hell.

The primary problem with Sunak is that he has never been given a mandate to be leader. Infact, by the Tory Party rules, (whatever one may think of them), he has been given the opposite of a mandate only a few weeks ago. Therefore, the fact that he may be the only candidate with over a hundred nominations which will automatically propel him into the driving seat is a problem in that he is riding on the mandate belonging to another. A general election is a fairer proposition than all of this.

This country is in profound need of a GE, before more damage is reached by these self-serving, incompetent, hateful fucks.

But to answer your AIBU: Sunak. Johnson should obviously never be allowed near public office again.