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Boris Johnson vs Rishi Sunak

308 replies

colddayinhell · 22/10/2022 14:45

I think both are awful and we should have a general election but if you had to choose between these two, who would you choose to be PM?

YANBU = Boris
YABU = Rishi

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FelicityFlops · 22/10/2022 21:50

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itsnotmeitsu · 22/10/2022 21:53

Boris Johnson has never come across to me as a wit, just somebody who tries to cover up his lack of political skill with quotes. But even if he was genuinely amusing, I'm not sure how that's a qualification for running a country that's in deep shit.

WhereIam · 22/10/2022 21:56

TheHouseonHauntedHill · 22/10/2022 21:47

Being pragmatic and working with what we have to hand, it will be good if Boris and sunack can work something out.

I just think this is the worst time to have any newbie's in the role....

Very much agreed.

HRTQueen · 22/10/2022 22:01

I’m sure there are a few Lifelong Tory voters who dislike Johnson immensely and even fewer who wouldn’t vote conservative in the next election

many lifelong Labour voters despised Corbyn difference is many refused to vote for Labour under his watch

Tory voters are more loyal to their party and they tend to speak out less (which I don’t blame them the smugness self righteousness of some on the left banging on with the same old insults is tiresome)

WhereIam · 22/10/2022 22:02

Croque · 22/10/2022 20:32

In terms of liaising with Soviet countries, being white blonde is definitely a major advantage for Boris. They would not trust or accept Sunak in any meaningful way. It is not on the verge of changing either.

We do not need Putin to trust anyone. He doesn't. He doesn't trust his own inner circle. Sunak wouldn't be an issue to him because of his colour. The West is an issue to him.

DamnUserName21 · 22/10/2022 22:02

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Rishi is British! Or do you mean white?

JocelynBurnell · 22/10/2022 22:04

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So Boris is British but Rishi isn't? It is rather an odd statement on your part.

Boris was born in the US and relinquished his American passport in 2017.

ThreeRingCircus · 22/10/2022 22:05

DamnUserName21 · 22/10/2022 22:02

Rishi is British! Or do you mean white?

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They mean white.....which just demonstrates their bigotry. Rishi was born in Southampton. He's British. Hope that helps.

falllakes · 22/10/2022 22:06

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Talk me through this?

I think you have got confused it wasn't Rishi who was born outside of the UK, it was Boris.

BorisforPmx2 · 22/10/2022 22:08

Blossomtoes · 22/10/2022 21:37

Trust me he won’t.

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Aw bless him for weighing in “As a man” opinions.

Read the article -£1500 a month free money and whining to take a few hours out of her 10 hour working week and looking after her fully schooled, non disabled children.m

WhereIam · 22/10/2022 22:08

PotKettleB · 22/10/2022 21:29

Agreed. Boris as a libertarian didn’t want to lockdown AT ALL and in hindsight it buggered the country but he did what the electorate wanted AT THE TIME. This site in particular was slavering over the country being locked down for as long as possible.

then all the bitching that Rishi is too rich to know how to relate to anyone. Well he knew enough to provide furlough and there were an awful lot of people learning to make sourdough and sitting in the sun doing nothing and being able to pay their rent and mortgages because of Rishi’s distinctly socialist approach to the lockdown.

the Tories don’t like him as he’s centrist and fiscally cautious but as the next PM at this point in time he is what we need. And he might be better as chancellor than as leader. The Chancellor is the key hire at the moment for me. The PM is just fielding out the balls in this maelstrom and I don’t care if it is Boris. He’ll be out in 2 years anyway but he was who was voted in, in the last GE so let’s just batten down the hatches, fix the economy where we’re able and not have men in women’s sports.

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Exactly what I've been saying.

XingMing · 22/10/2022 22:14

Rishi is British. His skin is a bit darker than mine, but his family came here and made a success of life. I am a Tory voter and I don't give a toss about his skin colour; I think he is the person for the job that needs doing. Mrs Rishi can give up her non dom status any time in the interest of her husband's career, but it's her family/ inherited money not his!

ilovesooty · 22/10/2022 22:15

DublinFemale · 22/10/2022 18:32

@derxa

Rory Stewart appeared to be a person who had beliefs.

Don't know a lot about the others but he always stood out to me.

As with most (maybe all) probably had skeletons also.

And Dominic Grieve.

TheHouseonHauntedHill · 22/10/2022 22:24

I don't care about rishi's level of wealth.. I don't believe it makes him impervious to what poor people need.

However, it does beg questioning why his wife isn't doing all she can to make his slate as clean as can be at that extraordinary level of wealth?
Why not fully commit? I'm sure after any tenure she could revert back?

WhereIam · 22/10/2022 22:27

TheHouseonHauntedHill · 22/10/2022 22:24

I don't care about rishi's level of wealth.. I don't believe it makes him impervious to what poor people need.

However, it does beg questioning why his wife isn't doing all she can to make his slate as clean as can be at that extraordinary level of wealth?
Why not fully commit? I'm sure after any tenure she could revert back?

Because she has the majority of wealth in the relationship? Like hell I'd sign anything over to my husband.

WhereIam · 22/10/2022 22:29

What she's set to inherit, is not her current worth or even her future worth. I know she has a fashion line but I don't think that she herself is billions worth.

Unseelie · 22/10/2022 22:37

Boris is still under investigation for possibly lying to Parliament about not having been to parties, and if they decide that he did lie to Parliament (which he clearly did) then he loses his seat as an MP. If he’s PM at the time he’d automatically lose that too and that would mean another selection process. Boris shouldn’t be considered a candidate while he’s under investigation.

The whole world is laughing at Britain.

If Rishi wants to do it, good for him. He was right about what would happen if Truss reduced tax etc, it all played out how Rishi said it would, so he must be fairly bright.

But Boris’s ego will selfishly force it to a vote.

Will the Conservative Party membership prefer a fat 58 yr old white man with zero brains and zero integrity, or a 42 yr old brown man of brains and integrity? I wonder 🤔

Cruisebabe1 · 22/10/2022 22:40

MintyFreshOne · 22/10/2022 15:21

Sunak should have been disqualified when it came out that his Uber-wealthy wife declared non-dom tax status

This!!!

WhereIam · 22/10/2022 22:41

Cruisebabe1 · 22/10/2022 22:40

This!!!

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He's not his wife.

paintitallover · 22/10/2022 22:55

I'd rather none of them but Sunak if necessary.

SprinkleOfSunak · 22/10/2022 23:24

Please, please let it be Rishi!

I do genuinely think he’d be the better of the 2 for the country, but mainly so I can perv over him every day on the news and in the paper 🤣.

L1ttledrummergirl · 23/10/2022 00:09

Neither, they are both lying arseholes who got fixed penalty notices for breaking laws they made whilst they were still in office.

Neither appear to have any good traits. I'm hoping the tories pull someone out of the bag who can set the bar a little higher.

HeddaGarbled · 23/10/2022 00:24

I'm hoping the tories pull someone out of the bag who can set the bar a little higher

Not happening. So, back to the original question.

It won’t make any difference to us really. We’re going to have a horrible winter and no PM can make that go away.

I just can’t bear the thought of Johnson swanning back in all triumphant, however short-lived.

bevelino · 23/10/2022 00:29

BorisforPmx2 · 22/10/2022 21:03

@threegoodthings

Besides getting us through Covid and delivering the World leading vaccine rollout he delivers excellent charismatic speeches, bats off Starmer and his idiocy too in a humorous way. I work shifts so often watch PMQs, I have missed him.

I was a remain voter as well. I can’t give a fuck about the parties either.

Our family lost a child through cancer during COVID and the very day of the funeral, where only 10 people could attend Boris and his mates were having a party. The child died alone in hospital and Johnson should never be forgiven, not ever.

TheHateIsNotGood · 23/10/2022 00:46

I don't care who the Tories choose, I'm beyond the far-feck of beyond caring about it, but I'd rather wait until the next GE is scheduled than call one before.

It's true the financial status quo is in charge, and woe betide any politico who attempts to assail that cliff face as wee Trussie exampled for all to see.

Meanwhile, the Labour Party needs to hone their Policies and present some tangible ones for the electorate to vote for; merely offering a critique doesn't cut it. Best hunker down for this winter and wait for Spring....