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Any Tory voters here who are switching to Labour this time?

313 replies

mavismorpoth · 20/10/2022 14:26

Curious because I think this rarely happens and I can't see Labour getting in, I don't think Tory voters change their mind. Am I very wrong? Do you/have you?

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Doris90 · 20/10/2022 16:26

If they hurry and have a GE I shall vote for some no hope Party. We are in a Tory safe seat; they weigh the votes rather than count them!

But I am moving soon to a Raging Woke LibDems constituency. There I shall vote Tory.
Recently I joined the Tory Party, so recent that I did not qualify to choose Sunak or Truss. Three months, I think.
Why did I join you are thinking. I loathe and detest Socialism. I was afraid of Corbyn and his team: McLusky, Milne, and most of his cabinet (as proposed).

mumofninetofive · 20/10/2022 16:26

Having lived in a small northern town for over 50 years with a labour council as long as I can remeber. They are bloody awful and I would not put them out if they were on fire a bloody joke, so voting starmer your having a laugh.

QueenCoconut · 20/10/2022 16:28

mumofninetofive · 20/10/2022 16:22

I'd rather pull my own teeth than vote labour ever!!!

Ditto

Lily073 · 20/10/2022 16:29

I have friends who voted Tory in the past because they run their own businesses & believed that the Tory party was best

For my business, I still think the Tory party would probably be the best. We're not reliant on immigration and are unaffected by Brexit though so those aren't factors to consider.

CapMarvel · 20/10/2022 16:31

How anyone can think the tories are in anyway capable of running the country after the shitshow of the last few years is completely beyond me.

I mean, fucking hell.

Croque · 20/10/2022 16:32

Nope. Currently, Labour are still the furthest away from my vision of what I would ideally like to see.

DullAndOvercast · 20/10/2022 16:32

mumofninetofive · 20/10/2022 16:26

Having lived in a small northern town for over 50 years with a labour council as long as I can remeber. They are bloody awful and I would not put them out if they were on fire a bloody joke, so voting starmer your having a laugh.

I'm in Wales and feel similar.

However Tory's do look unable to govern UK at the moment - so I agree with MarshaBradyo it's why the opposition are shouting so loud now about GM.

mavismorpoth · 20/10/2022 16:34

CapMarvel · 20/10/2022 16:31

How anyone can think the tories are in anyway capable of running the country after the shitshow of the last few years is completely beyond me.

I mean, fucking hell.

You should ask them then. Being confused is not fun.

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fromdownwest · 20/10/2022 16:35

CapMarvel · 20/10/2022 16:31

How anyone can think the tories are in anyway capable of running the country after the shitshow of the last few years is completely beyond me.

I mean, fucking hell.

Come join us in Wales where out First Minister has spent £70m on an airport worth £15m, bought a field 4 times the asking price for a festival, banned the sale of nappies and paper during lockdown.

£140m of public money in M4 relief road to then stop the progress.

HIghest NHS waiting lists in the UK, some of the lowest literacy and numeracy rates in Europe. More schools in special measures than any part of the UK.
Longest ambulance waiting times.

Now spending a further 60m to increase the number of mps from 60 to 92 for a country with 3 million people living in it.

Labour is not the answer, trust me

FlirtyMelons · 20/10/2022 16:36

GasPanic · 20/10/2022 14:33

If there is a GE I will read the manifestos and then make a decision.

How else would anyone sensibly make a decision ?

I mean, do people just have some sort of blind allegiance to one side or the other and vote for them no matter what ?

I think there are many people who blindly vote for the party who they have always voted for. These people are often very aggressive when it comes to discussing politics.

I would love to set a few of my friends to say why I should vote either conservative or labour but without saying why the other party is awful. I bet none of them can, in fact on MN I don't think I have ever seen a reasonable argument about why I should vote for someone, it is always why this MP or leader are hideous in opposition party as opposed to why the party is good and why we should vote for them. This is why I can't take these sorts of people seriously when it comes to politics.

I have voted conservative more than labour over the years but have no huge allegiance to either, I vote for the policies I feel are better. A big concern of mine currently is women's only spaces, mainly for young girls and women (I am in my 40s and not so concerned for me going forward) as well as ensuring that those who are working full time are not penalised for doing so. Currently I don't feel that Conservatives or Labour are actually going to help with either of these issues which is massively concerning.

Univalve · 20/10/2022 16:36

After the damage the tories have caused over the past 12 years and the absolute shit show that’s going on now, of COURSE I will be voting labour. I don’t care if their policies may not directly benefit my life, voting labour is the only realistic way of getting the tories out. People need to consider the wider picture here, a vote for anyone other than labour, or abstaining, is basically a vote for the tories. Which is a vote against the NHS, public services and in favour of low pay and more child poverty. Unfortunately when it’s a two party race it really does sometimes boil down to the lesser of two evils. It shouldn’t, but it does. Get the tories out and then address these concerns, just get them out.

TheHouseonHauntedHill · 20/10/2022 16:37

I'm a swing voter, I am extremely wary of Angela Raynor, calling people Tory scum is hate speech.

The way some of the more ardent far left supporters on here also deeply worry me.

BeetFeet · 20/10/2022 16:38

GasPanic · 20/10/2022 14:33

If there is a GE I will read the manifestos and then make a decision.

How else would anyone sensibly make a decision ?

I mean, do people just have some sort of blind allegiance to one side or the other and vote for them no matter what ?

Of course they do.

fromdownwest · 20/10/2022 16:39

BeetFeet · 20/10/2022 16:38

Of course they do.

You could pin a red Rosette on a donkey and march him through my town and Labout would get in.

'Its what my parents did, and their parents' etc

RedRiverShore2 · 20/10/2022 16:42

Floating voter and will see what the manifestos are at the time, like I always do, if none suit, I won't vote

LivingRoomdilemma · 20/10/2022 16:42

fromdownwest · 20/10/2022 16:35

Come join us in Wales where out First Minister has spent £70m on an airport worth £15m, bought a field 4 times the asking price for a festival, banned the sale of nappies and paper during lockdown.

£140m of public money in M4 relief road to then stop the progress.

HIghest NHS waiting lists in the UK, some of the lowest literacy and numeracy rates in Europe. More schools in special measures than any part of the UK.
Longest ambulance waiting times.

Now spending a further 60m to increase the number of mps from 60 to 92 for a country with 3 million people living in it.

Labour is not the answer, trust me

Agreed! See also - not knowing what a woman is.
It takes some doing to have 22 years in power and be worse off on just about every important measure in Wales than pre-devolution. Blaming Westminster for the shitshow of their own making doesn't cut it for me, although those who keep voting them back in don't see it.
I hate a lot of what the Tories stand for, but hope they get their act together by the next election.

QueueEtwo · 20/10/2022 16:43

For my business, I still think the Tory party would probably be the best. We're not reliant on immigration and are unaffected by Brexit though so those aren't factors to consider.

One is reliant on EU immigration and is struggling to get workers & finding applying for a Sponsorship licence impossible but I wasn't talking about that, they are horrified that Asylum seekers who have been raped & tortured and have no other way of seeking asylum than risking their lives in a dingy be flown to blooming Rwanda !

fromdownwest · 20/10/2022 16:46

LivingRoomdilemma · 20/10/2022 16:42

Agreed! See also - not knowing what a woman is.
It takes some doing to have 22 years in power and be worse off on just about every important measure in Wales than pre-devolution. Blaming Westminster for the shitshow of their own making doesn't cut it for me, although those who keep voting them back in don't see it.
I hate a lot of what the Tories stand for, but hope they get their act together by the next election.

Wales will never be anything over than Labour. The fact that we have regressed under EVERY metric measurable under Labour control goes un noticed. Peoples hatred for the tories tops their abilty to view the mess we are in in this country in a logical way.

The develoved powers we have have driven our NHS into the ground, I have seen first hand over the last 15 years, the comparisons between Welsh and English NHS. Poles apart sadly.

QueueEtwo · 20/10/2022 16:48

TheHouseonHauntedHill · 20/10/2022 16:37

I'm a swing voter, I am extremely wary of Angela Raynor, calling people Tory scum is hate speech.

The way some of the more ardent far left supporters on here also deeply worry me.

The Labour Party, it’s the Lib Dems, it’s the Coalition of chaos, it’s the Guardian-reading, Tofu-eating, wokerati - dare I say the anti-growth coalition that we have to thank for the disruption we are seeing on our roads today!”

And this isn't hate speech?

Duckskitbank · 20/10/2022 16:49

I will vote for whoever knows what a woman is. It stands above all other policies in my list of priorities.

XingMing · 20/10/2022 16:49

If we have the same Labour candidate as we did at the last GE, I'll probably give him a go but only if he canvasses more than last time. His leaflets made HIM sound sensible enough: it was the rest of the party that had everyone worried.

RudsyFarmer · 20/10/2022 16:51

I’m afraid I will never vote Labour but I might choose to not vote at all.

sophiasnail · 20/10/2022 16:51

I don't really know what I would do. I really don't want to vote for this current shambles, but our local Conservative MP is excellent, and I would want to support him.

I couldn't, in all conscience, vote for any other main party but I would hate to not vote, given the trouble people have gone to in the past to give us the vote.

Lurkerlot · 20/10/2022 16:54

Floating voter, opted for Tories in 2019. Regretted in within 8 months when order-order started outing him as a sex pest.

Followed by the shoddy management of the complainants cases (yes it wasn’t just 1), there was at least one of both sexes, including a complaint, from a young conservative group, about his harassment of one of their young (underage) members.

Rockingcloggs · 20/10/2022 16:57

There is nothing for me to vote Labour for, I don't believe them, I don't trust them and I certainly don't like what they stand for similarly the Conservatives make me feel the same way.

Truth be told none of them appeal to me. At all.

I need a party that appeals to the middle folk, the ones never spoken about not the lowest earners and not the top ones. The Inbetweeners I shall call the party!