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To not want DD’s boyfriend’s child in my house

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crostina1 · 19/10/2022 14:27

This happened yesterday and DD doesn’t get why I am annoyed. My 17 year old DD has a new boyfriend of 22 (will call him J) who she met at work. They got together 2 months ago, and it has moved very fast. He only works 15 hours a week and doesn’t do more because of his ‘mental health’. He had a tough upbringing (DD won’t give the details) and isn’t in contact with any of his family. He has a just turned 3 year old son with an ex who he sees once evey few months. He lives in his friend’s family’s spare room but is outstaying his welcome and needs to be out by Christmas. He is making no plans for this whatsoever, I know the place they work would bite his hand off if he asked them for full-time hours, they are very understaffed and he could then he could a bedsit or rent a bedroom. But he will not consider this.

I caught on to what he was doing straight away. He came to stay over one night and stayed for 5, it was obvious he was trying to move in for free accommodation. I put my foot down and said he can only stay 1 night at a time, and no more than 1 night a week as this is our family home and we have DD’s autistic brother to think about, who is unsettled having a stranger in the home. J makes no effort with us at all. DH cooks every night and J never eats it when offered, he gets a takeaway every night, sometimes in the early hours, waking us up. I haven’t ever actually had a conversation with J, he acknowledges me with a nod when he sees me in the house and that’s it. He knows I don’t like him, he is taking advantage of my daughter. He hasn’t once taken my DD out on a date.

They were both off work yesterday. I was aware that he had been allowed a visit with his child, and that DD would be going. DD was very excited to meet his child. I didn’t agree with it, but saying anything would have been futile. I was told they were getting the train to pick him up (child lives in the next town over) going for lunch and to the park and then taking him back to his mum. I finished work early and came home at 3 and opened the door to find the child playing in my hallway, with DD sat in the living room with the door open watching him. J had gone to the shop.

DD hasn’t ever really been around young children, she would haven’t a clue what to do if he’d have had a tantrum and the child was playing next to our heater which was on full blast. I was not at all comfortable with this and read DD the riot act about how this is the first time she has met this child and that it was incredibly inappropriate for J to leave her with him. J was gone for a further half an hour. DD said they went to the park and it was closed off (don’t believe) so J thought it made sense to come here. She said J’s ex (who, I’m told was completely under the impression they WERE at the park/going for lunch and not at mine) is considering letting him have weekly contact and J wants to be able to bring him here as he can’t take him to his mate’s house. I told her in no uncertain terms, no. My house is not a contact centre. DD naively said she thought I’d like it and it’d be like having a grandchild for me.

I had her ring J, find out which shop he was in and then sent her off with the child (who had a pram, thank god as I don’t have a bloody car seat to ferry him about) to meet him so they could take him home.

DD and J don’t get what my problem is. I barely know J. What if something had happened to the child in my house under my DD’s care? In my opinion, taking the child to his new girlfriend’s house when the mother is under the impression they are at the park constitutes a form of low-level abduction, and I wanted no part in the deception.

OP posts:
expat101 · 22/10/2022 06:58

Yeah I’m calling BS on the thread too. My Dh has a chronic condition (there was a drip feed aye) but when it comes to DD, he would muster all energy and resources to see off this p….k from our doorstep, let alone her bedroom.

the d..k wouldn’t have made it past our lounge room.

grow some balls.

Meagainalready · 22/10/2022 08:26

How are you feeling about it all OP?

the first part of the thread had huge sympathy for you and you engaged frequently but the tone seems to have turned with the majority suggesting you need to be more strong about your boundaries and you have somewhat gone quiet (although I appreciate your son is ill and you ‘heaven forbid’ have an actual life outside these pages!).

what do you think about posters suggestions and how do you plan to proceed?

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 22/10/2022 10:31

PyjamaFan · 21/10/2022 20:18

Does your DD actually want him there so much?

She might be relieved if you say no more visits. She might be waiting for you to give her an excuse to back away from him.

I just wonder if she feels trapped into bringing him home due to all the sob stories and manipulation from him.

Obviously I could be completely wrong but I just have a nagging feeling about this situation.

this. Its sad to read that this is escalating, but maybe it needs to before you feel you can take firm action.

I think saying to him whilst he was busy blanking you that he could help himself to food in the freezer was tantamount to saying "Help yourself to anything in my home whilst you are here" and removes any barriers he may have felt previously. I don't think you should be offering him anything.

You now have the perfect excuse to ban him. You have been reasonable, you asked them not to do it. They did it anyway and it's not the first time either.

I think this would help your daughter.
I see that you are scared of acting in case it burns bridges with her, but tell her that. Its not right that you should be scared of this.
Tell her you love her, you want her to continue living with you and you will support her but you cannot support him any longer. but try to do it in a non accusatory, non angry calm, factual way, asking questions but also listening to her answers. and then you can say I understand, but I feel xyz and it is affecting not just me but also your DF and DB, its not your DD its the BF doing this and its not acceptable.

Ask her if she thinks his attitude to you is disrespectful. He's treating you like a landlord/staff, worse because he'd have to talk to them.
Ask her why she felt it necessary to answer for him. . Ask her again to stop paying for him. Or at least promise to keep a record of EVERY penny she spends on him/lends/subsidises him... and ask her to add it up. Facts don't lie. Ask her to count the number of times they've been out on a date, compared to the times they have sat at home watching TV. Tell her this is NOT dating, this is being a doormat, earning money to support him, someone who is less sorted out than she is despite having a 5-year head start.

I recognise that this is all easier said than done tho and I don't envy you, but he is a total parasite.

Limosella · 22/10/2022 10:37

The OP has a DH grieving and in pain, a DS who is autistic and now unwell too and a DD who is taking the piss big time. She is from what she has posted the strong one in her marriage at the moment. I would imagine she is feeling rather overwhelmed by the situation however so no wonder she's gone a bit quiet.

Your DD does seem to be ruling your home however OP. Are you subconsciously a bit frightened of her? My DSis was a nightmare at that age and despite our parents' threats of consequences she did virtually what she wanted to do because she had a terrible temper. This never changed, even when she left home she would return at intervals and cause mayhem for a few weeks then go again. They did nothing, it was easier to keep the peace as 'she will be gone soon'. She treated the house as if it were hers. Bad in a teenager, even worse in a woman in her 40s and 50s and the temper tantrums have got worse the older she gets. She doesn't do it now. Our parents have now sadly passed away and I will not tolerate such behaviour in my home and she knows it. She has incidentally fallen out with a lot of friends along the way who also won't put up with her nonsense.

Nip this behaviour in the bud OP or you could create a monster like my DSis. Australia sounds like a perfect solution if you can contrive for it to happen.

pinkyredrose · 22/10/2022 10:39

crostina1 · 21/10/2022 19:14

In a roundabout way, I sort of hope he is using cannabis as it gives me something proper and concrete to ban him from the house. Not wanting drugs, especially with DS around

Isn't everything he's done so far a reason to ban him from the house?

Limosella · 22/10/2022 10:41

Oh, and if you can get your DD to Australia get the locks changed on your house so Cocklodger can't get in should she have left him hers!

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 22/10/2022 10:41

He is manipulative and a user as you know. Your daughter can't get away from him at work, she needs to have a safe space at home to be away from him for when she does want to end it.
He could well be abusive to her right under your roof.
Both you and your husband need to show her how to put herself first. Ban him for any of the reasons he's already displayed and be strong for her as she clearly isn't.
Having parents who are scared to do anything about it shows she has no one to turn to if & when she wants to end it.
Why are you scared of him?

pinkyredrose · 22/10/2022 10:51

Why are you allowing this lowlife to stay in your home, disrespect the entire household and have unprotected sex with your 17yr old!?

You're the parent, act like one!

pinkyredrose · 22/10/2022 10:55

Please tell me he doesn't have a key?

Watapalava · 22/10/2022 11:21

Op why are you allowing this? Just say no he can’t stay? You don’t need a reason

just a no it’s your house your rules

if she ends up pregnant then harsh as it sounds but it’ll be your fault for allowing all this to continue

Bleachmycloths · 22/10/2022 11:41

People will only do what they are allowed to get away with. Lazy losers often use emotional blackmail (ie a relationship with a beloved daughter) to wheedle their way in.
Absolutely ban him from your house whilst making it clear to your daughter that she is loved and cherished.

Bleachmycloths · 22/10/2022 11:52

I have just scanned all your posts, OP. Please do NOT negotiate with this loser ( eg offering chicken nuggets and chips). He will see this as weakness and play on it. Please get rid of him.
And bollocks to the posters who are criticising you! Especially those who are having a go at you for mentioning MH. We all know there are plenty of leeches ready to use any excuse to avoid work and get other people to pay. Some people are so thick. Or they just look to be offended. good luck, OP.

MrsTumblebee · 22/10/2022 12:10

crostina1 · 21/10/2022 19:14

In a roundabout way, I sort of hope he is using cannabis as it gives me something proper and concrete to ban him from the house. Not wanting drugs, especially with DS around

But you have a concrete reason already, in fact you have quite a few.

Just get on with what needs to be done and don’t be scared of what if’s.

What be will be and by taking your home back you have at least taken control of your space and drawn a line.

OK you may be afraid for your daughter going forward but the reality is that these two have hijacked hijacked your home, you have a grown man sleeping with your daughter under your roof, a man that’s so ignorant and so much of a leach that he has absolutely no self awareness or self respect at all and to be quite frank you’d be as well turning back the bedclothes for him before he jumps into your daughters bed and asking if there’s anything else you can get him.

Jesus. Seriously. You really do need to get a grip.

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 22/10/2022 12:11

I still don't understand why they repeatedly need to cook in the middle of the night when they work at a pub. Can't they buy chips & sandwiches at the end of their shift, or something?

The job (and it's late hours) is not appropriate for a teenager. Look what it's led to.

threatmatrix · 22/10/2022 12:20

The more I read of this the more incredulous I become in that you are letting it happen, I would go as far as changing the locks and telling them both to feck off. Your daughter must see you as weak as my children ( ones no Angel) wouldn’t dare disrespect me in my own home. You need to get a grip and bar him. But I’ve got a feeling you won’t. Even if your daughter leaves she will be back as she will only then realise he’s a total fuvk up.

MrsTumblebee · 22/10/2022 12:21

Sorry Op, please stop using your son as an excuse to beat around the bush with this tosser and not just because you’re giving them hope that once his health is improved things will go back to normal.

take your courage in your hands and just tell him - you being here isn’t good for my family and you will not be able to come round again.

Bekindnotarsey · 22/10/2022 12:21

Just a thought OP, let your DD read all this saga, she may think twice if she has any feelings🙂

MrsTumblebee · 22/10/2022 12:25

apologies again Op, I have lots of children and like the previous poster I have one that’s no angel so please don’t think I’m posting from the point of view of Ma Walton.

EleanorLucyG · 22/10/2022 12:32

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 22/10/2022 12:11

I still don't understand why they repeatedly need to cook in the middle of the night when they work at a pub. Can't they buy chips & sandwiches at the end of their shift, or something?

The job (and it's late hours) is not appropriate for a teenager. Look what it's led to.

At the end of their shift they'll be tidying up and leaving, the kitchen will be long closed. They're coming home wide awake because they've just finished work having sex chatting for a couple of hours then getting hungry and wanting to eat before sleeping.

NoPrivateSpy · 22/10/2022 13:49

I think I would now leave it a few weeks and see if it shows any signs of fizzling out.

I was pretty head strong at that age and would never have listened to my mum's opinion. I also thought my mum was a total snob.

Great news about the open day. Hopefully she'll see what life could be like away from home (and him).

crazeekat · 22/10/2022 13:56

OP, how are things now, is there any update, I feel so bad for u, it's truly my worst nightmare and my daughter is only ten, I genuinely feel ur frustration and despair xx

PrioritiseCalm · 22/10/2022 13:56

Make sure DD is on the pill!

crazeekat · 22/10/2022 14:04

Also if he's a 22 year old man with mh problems there are loads of supported accommodation these days, he just needs to ask his doc or his mh nurse for a referral, start off at homeless accommodation, local housing can refer, network flat and SA, He will have him own place. Someeone as sneaky as him will know all this, so possibly he's went down this road, ask him, make his aware u know he has options and tell all this to ur daughter too so she knows he is making excuses. In fact u can phone them urself so when he makes up his shit excuse u can say. Well actually, this place here does this etc etc x be in front of him at all times, the min he gets his feet under someeone elses door ur daughter will be history hopefully. I'm so annoyed for u x

YukoandHiro · 22/10/2022 16:45

Everyone saying get a grip has missed the poster further down saying their daughter had a similar turn of events and is in her 40s now and has never settled or recovered.
She didn't want to lose her daughter. Is that really so hard to understand?
My dd is only 5 and this is my worst nightmare too but I absolutely wouldn't want to push her away. I know what I was like at that age and I would have been gone for a decade. And when you're gone a long time it's hard to repair.
OP, I really hope uni visits get her thinking. As long as she's on the pill, it almost doesn't matter what he does as long as she also keeps focused on her own future.

Amarantho · 22/10/2022 17:20

Herejustforthisone · 21/10/2022 13:05

Stop being offended for a minute and look at the bigger picture here.

Focus on the rest of his shit and disappointing behaviour.

But the comments are aimed generally at mental health not being an excuse, therefore it's not just about the bigger picture in this specific scenario.

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