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To not want DD’s boyfriend’s child in my house

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crostina1 · 19/10/2022 14:27

This happened yesterday and DD doesn’t get why I am annoyed. My 17 year old DD has a new boyfriend of 22 (will call him J) who she met at work. They got together 2 months ago, and it has moved very fast. He only works 15 hours a week and doesn’t do more because of his ‘mental health’. He had a tough upbringing (DD won’t give the details) and isn’t in contact with any of his family. He has a just turned 3 year old son with an ex who he sees once evey few months. He lives in his friend’s family’s spare room but is outstaying his welcome and needs to be out by Christmas. He is making no plans for this whatsoever, I know the place they work would bite his hand off if he asked them for full-time hours, they are very understaffed and he could then he could a bedsit or rent a bedroom. But he will not consider this.

I caught on to what he was doing straight away. He came to stay over one night and stayed for 5, it was obvious he was trying to move in for free accommodation. I put my foot down and said he can only stay 1 night at a time, and no more than 1 night a week as this is our family home and we have DD’s autistic brother to think about, who is unsettled having a stranger in the home. J makes no effort with us at all. DH cooks every night and J never eats it when offered, he gets a takeaway every night, sometimes in the early hours, waking us up. I haven’t ever actually had a conversation with J, he acknowledges me with a nod when he sees me in the house and that’s it. He knows I don’t like him, he is taking advantage of my daughter. He hasn’t once taken my DD out on a date.

They were both off work yesterday. I was aware that he had been allowed a visit with his child, and that DD would be going. DD was very excited to meet his child. I didn’t agree with it, but saying anything would have been futile. I was told they were getting the train to pick him up (child lives in the next town over) going for lunch and to the park and then taking him back to his mum. I finished work early and came home at 3 and opened the door to find the child playing in my hallway, with DD sat in the living room with the door open watching him. J had gone to the shop.

DD hasn’t ever really been around young children, she would haven’t a clue what to do if he’d have had a tantrum and the child was playing next to our heater which was on full blast. I was not at all comfortable with this and read DD the riot act about how this is the first time she has met this child and that it was incredibly inappropriate for J to leave her with him. J was gone for a further half an hour. DD said they went to the park and it was closed off (don’t believe) so J thought it made sense to come here. She said J’s ex (who, I’m told was completely under the impression they WERE at the park/going for lunch and not at mine) is considering letting him have weekly contact and J wants to be able to bring him here as he can’t take him to his mate’s house. I told her in no uncertain terms, no. My house is not a contact centre. DD naively said she thought I’d like it and it’d be like having a grandchild for me.

I had her ring J, find out which shop he was in and then sent her off with the child (who had a pram, thank god as I don’t have a bloody car seat to ferry him about) to meet him so they could take him home.

DD and J don’t get what my problem is. I barely know J. What if something had happened to the child in my house under my DD’s care? In my opinion, taking the child to his new girlfriend’s house when the mother is under the impression they are at the park constitutes a form of low-level abduction, and I wanted no part in the deception.

OP posts:
GloriousGlory · 21/10/2022 20:46

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 21/10/2022 20:37

I also would be printing graphic images of STI lesions and the like, and ask her how she'll enjoy explaining that she has a transmissible disease to future partners.

Don't be ridiculous

WickedStepmomNOT · 21/10/2022 20:47

This is starting to sound ridiculous. Either this is a made up scenario thats going to pop up in the daily rags, or OP herself has some serious issues going on.

I mean, stopping them at 12.30, having a strange encounter, OP saying eat now as no waking us later - then 2am comes being woken by cooking but OP says and does nothing? Come on - whats really going on here? Is OP intimidated or feeling in danger somehow?

NormaTheWife · 21/10/2022 21:00

@WickedStepmomNOT yes I have to agree as the responses we are getting from @crostina1 are very wishy washy.

Carlycat · 21/10/2022 21:05

I'm beginning to think this thread is a wind up. How anyone in their right mind would allow this behaviour in their own house is beyond. Absolutely fucking pathetic

Carlycat · 21/10/2022 21:06
  • beyond me ffs
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Afterfire · 21/10/2022 21:14

Why on earth are you letting him stay?! You should have just turfed him out and said no. And absolutely no cooking hot food in the kitchen after a certain time. It’s just totally unreasonable.

TheHonourableHonoriaGlossop · 21/10/2022 21:35

Carlycat · 21/10/2022 21:05

I'm beginning to think this thread is a wind up. How anyone in their right mind would allow this behaviour in their own house is beyond. Absolutely fucking pathetic

Unfortunately I have come across enough of The Type at work to know this won't be a wind up. There are some horrible young men I can think of that would act just like this, except their chosen quarry aren't usually nice girls who want to be paramedics. Op may well feel intimidated by a surly, potentially surly 22 yo male, especially if she has been unsupported by her DH

TheHonourableHonoriaGlossop · 21/10/2022 21:35

Potentially AGGRESSIVE ffs 🤦🏼‍♀️

TheHonourableHonoriaGlossop · 21/10/2022 21:37

Unfortunately they have failed to nip the behaviour in the bud, hence having much more work to do to wind it back in

Gymnopedie · 21/10/2022 21:55

So I caught them when they came in. I said hi to J directly and mentioned to DD and J (though addressing J really) if they were hungry they are welcome to the frozen chicken nuggets/ chips in the freezer and that they can pop some in if they liked. I stated they should do it now if hungry so as not to disturb us in early hours. I emphasised that DS has been poorly and needs a good nights sleep.

I am made to feel like an inconvenience in my own home. In the end they were in the kitchen at 2am anyway.

It was already 12:15am when they got in so I was already being considerate offering him food if he cooked it ASAP so everybody could go to sleep. Yet no, they left it until 2am.

Sorry OP but if this is for real now you're just being wet. You may not want to drive her away but there's a middle ground between that and lying down on the floor with 'doormat' written on your forehead.

MemorableName · 21/10/2022 21:57

Its not J being disrespectful of your household it’s your daughter. He owes you nothing and it isn’t your job to teach him manners, she doesn’t care about his manners. All this talk of sitting him down and asking him awkward questions , or humiliating him in front of her is more foolish advice after more foolish advice.

Your daughter needs to be told no uninvited guests, adults or their toddlers, no overnight guests and no cooking for a friend/lover/neighbour at 2 am on a school night/work night. UCAS will be a fool’s errand if she isn’t studying.

Its very straightforward.

Think practically of the major risks. If I knew you in real life I’d be reading my big long post over and over until it sunk in.

MemorableName · 21/10/2022 21:59

Gymnopedie · 21/10/2022 21:55

So I caught them when they came in. I said hi to J directly and mentioned to DD and J (though addressing J really) if they were hungry they are welcome to the frozen chicken nuggets/ chips in the freezer and that they can pop some in if they liked. I stated they should do it now if hungry so as not to disturb us in early hours. I emphasised that DS has been poorly and needs a good nights sleep.

I am made to feel like an inconvenience in my own home. In the end they were in the kitchen at 2am anyway.

It was already 12:15am when they got in so I was already being considerate offering him food if he cooked it ASAP so everybody could go to sleep. Yet no, they left it until 2am.

Sorry OP but if this is for real now you're just being wet. You may not want to drive her away but there's a middle ground between that and lying down on the floor with 'doormat' written on your forehead.

She’ll end up driving her away by letting her get away with all sorts of bad behaviour and then accusing the boyfriend of having drugs in the house.

MemorableName · 21/10/2022 22:07

@crostina1 You can't really do much about your 17 year olds madly loved up "romance". We've all been there and we all knew best. What you can control is what happens in your house. This seems a miserable situation for everyone other than your daughter and her boyfriend (of 2 months) and you do need to exert what control you can. You have a right not to be made uncomfortable and have your sleep disturbed by an effective stranger

Its the daughter that brought him round uninvited and was making food with him at 2am . He didn’t break in, he was her guest.

I hope she isn’t already pregnant.

MemorableName · 21/10/2022 22:18

Newestname002 · 21/10/2022 19:24

Honestly OP you really need to be firmer and clearer here - it's not a sin not to be nice, especially as you, your home and your family are being disrespected. Put your marker in the sand right here and tell them both that this situation doesn't work for you or your poor husband and he's not welcome at your home any more. Boundaries, clear communication and consistency are needed here. 🌹

Whatever you do don’t say he is not welcome in your home. She already thinks you are a judgemental snob and this man is a poor martyr.
Say nobody is welcome in your home uninvited, esp if she’ll be keeping the family up night making noise cooking for them

1dontunderstand · 21/10/2022 22:22

it sounds like @crostina1 has a lot going on. It’s a stressful situation and she is trying to navigate it in the best way for her daughter.
I wish people on here would stick to giving advice and stop the personal attacks

pinheadlarry · 21/10/2022 22:46

Your daughter must know that you are uncomfortable with all this.??
Or does she not care ?
have you communicated with her that you do not want J in the house ?

You need to kick him out tommorow, give your daughter a heads up

You can say something like
" J, i have been generous with you, letting you stay here in my home, because you are important to my daughter
but im afraid you can not stay here any longer, as this was not meant to be a permanent situation
I can give you 1 more day to pack up your stuff and find somewhere else
you are welcome to visit but there will be no more overnight stays in my home

If he dare protests or argues, i will hit him with the " this is my home, you are guest and you will be leaving tommorow

Your daughter is also taking advantage of your kind nature, and shes choosing to prioritize Js feelings over her own family
That is not a good trait for a young lady to have
She needs to understand that men will come and go, family will always be there for her

You could give her an opportunity to tell him to leave first
but you should also talk to him after
"Hi J has dd spoken to you? No hard feelings, you are always welcome to visit in the day but no more over nights mm kay"

Dont be afraid of dd leaving with him, she will see his true colors eventually

GettingItOutThere · 21/10/2022 22:52

Runaway1 · 21/10/2022 19:18

You ban him because he woke you all up. Again. And your poor dh has chronic pain and is grieving! I’d be furious with her now, too.

this ^ your daughter is being so disrespectful! I would ban him and tell her she gets in by 11pm or the door is locked. She may need that sharp wake up call to find some respect she's clearly lost for you!

DodgyLeftLeg · 21/10/2022 23:02

How does your DD get to/from this job so late?

DdraigGoch · 22/10/2022 00:11

In an attempt to engage I asked if he was working tomorrow and DD answered for him, which I found incredibly odd.

"I'm sure that he can speak for himself" might be worth a try.

DdraigGoch · 22/10/2022 00:20

Next time that you get a text mentioning that he is coming back late, you simply need to reply with "No. I'm not being woken up at 2am again."

I wouldn't ban him completely, if he continues to visit at slightly less antisocial times it would give you an opportunity to put him under pressure with faux-concerned questions.

Bekindnotarsey · 22/10/2022 00:46

I am lost for words, this is more Mills & Boons than anything
you are the mother start acting like one, stop pussy footing around and kick the imbecile out
if your daughter kicks off, tough shit, she’s old enough to know right from wrong

if yo u DD leaves with him, let her go, let her learn the hard way, let her lead her life instead of you moping around being sickly nicey nicey… both are taking the piss.
just Chuck him out simple.

Thank goodness my daughter had morals, she is obviously like you

Are you married? If so where’s your husband..

people have given advice, and getting fed up of the whinging now, get a bloody grip. No excuses, in the end your DD is learning a bad example from you..

Yes it’s hard sometimes with teens and yes I am being harsh, but only to bring you into this century, you have no back bone.. Do the right thing and kick him out and never let him back in, he’s a right tosser

kateandme · 22/10/2022 00:51

Monsun · 21/10/2022 20:09

'J didn’t say a word to me, barely looked at me. In an attempt to engage I asked if he was working tomorrow and DD answered for him, which I found incredibly odd. I couldn’t smell anything but he looked high'

^ Right there!! As I said, INVASIVE PEOPLE CAN'T HANDLE INVASION (especially when they're high). He literally hid from a question about chips.

With this new additional information, I modify my previous advice of making him uncomfortable to prioritising asking him all about his mental health: eg

What are you diagnosed with? Are you getting any support for it? What medication do you take? If you're not diagnosed with anything, can I take you to the doctors? I think you should go to the doctors. (Pester him to go to the doctors) Do you think your mental health makes you a danger to people? (that question will test if HE thinks he's some kind of tough guy - spoiler alert: he isn't, he's clearly scared of you)

Don't let up. Lay it on thick. Do not take 'no' or 'I don't want to talk about it' or your DD answering for him for an answer. Continually bombard him with questions every time you see him. Remember to use lots of big smiles and concerned expressions.

Make it unbearable and he'll soon move onto an easier target.

Nobody and Deff not on the odd chance they are suffering mental illnesses should ever have this aimed at them. Christ.

Carlycat · 22/10/2022 00:52

Nearly 900 comments in and this wastrel and his entitled disrespectful gf are still taking the piss. If this isn't BS it's smelling pretty fucking similar 💩

Pipsquiggle · 22/10/2022 06:49

I think you need to have some ground rules for everyone staying over at your house not just J.

So they didn't get take out but they stayed up to 2am then made food, you heard all of this so it disturbed you. It is not on.

She needs to ask permission not declare that someone is staying over.

Any male guest needs to sleep on the sofa.

Hopefully her friends will be able to tell her that although he is a good looking man, he is pretty shit in all other areas. I do remember when I was around that age I so desperately wanted a good looking boy friend - that attribute would have usurped virtually everything else. Thankfully I had grown out of that by uni. I remember one of my friends went out with a good looking footballer /model and he treated her like shit so I remember thinking that decency and intellect were more important.

Get her watching those teenage films where the good looking boy turns out to be the twat and the nerdy one goes on to run Google or something like that

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