Suella Braverman. Is she always like that or is she unwell?

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Dear Lord above, I've seen people removed and banned from pubs for less. She's the Home Secretary. What have we come to?

She's just another example of the lack of talent in the Tory party at this stage.

Strange how so many economic bodies didn't seem to think so. Corporate tax, maybe there was an argument, maybe but cutting the top rate of tax and believing in the, by now, completely shat on idea of 'trickle down economics' was laughable. It doesn't work.

Boris is popular…are people really buying this?! He has about half the named supporters of Sunak with some mystery official voters who can’t be revealed (one of these who’d been identified via job title complained). But also, he’s absolutely despised - Tories may have sunk to new lows since Truss, but he was ejected because he was an electoral liability. Has he changed? A third of the party supports someone like him? Because the ‘membership’ can easily be manipulated, this ‘popularity’ is fake.

Didn't Truss, Kwarteng & Patel write Britannia Unhinged?

Corp tax has been at 19% for 6 years and has attracted few if any businesses to to the UK.

Companies don't make major investment decisions based purely on a tax rate, they want stability - which of course the UK now offers in spades.

@SundownOnTheStair honestly, is that all you've got? Attacks on someone's physical appearance? Pathetic.

Only a GE will improve stability - surely no one will take the UK seriously (as investment opportunity or otherwise) until then. More likely Johnson doesn’t actually put his name forward now if it’s not clear he’ll win?

This trauma being inflicted on us has to stop, it has gone beyond a joke. The very idea of BJ being PM again should shame every Tory member, yet here we are.

I watched Tory members saying they liked Penny and I wondered on what they were basing support - does she have the experience or judgment required for the job or does she simply look and sound nice?

Penny Mordaunt’s support seems to be based a lot of the time on her appearance and ‘she seems nice’. She isn’t though. She is a very fluent liar and I’m just sick of it.

If Johnson wins the markets will hammer us again - which means higher borrowing costs and more inflation and the cycle will continue. We are broke as a country and the huge bill for covid and spending beyond our means for years has finally arrived.

At some point, something else will blow up in the markets and then we will truly be in uncharted territory. As if Johnson is any sort of answer to the problems facing us.

yes, penny morduant saying The prime minsister is not hiding under the table, was the height of bitchiness, she knew she would be quoted, and she has been, every day

From a tactical point of view, I could never see Boris getting wiped out at an election. He is a great campaigner. Sunak and Mordant are unknown quantities.

Except the majority of the U.K. don’t want him back.

Of course you can’t. But even The Telegraph can. It’s saying something when you’re even more blindly right leaning than that Tory newsletter.

I hope that because of these games at the expense of the people they will be well and truly finished at the next GE regardless of who wins.

Do people wishing his return not realise the old sores that would be reopened and how painful it would be for a lot of people angry at how he has conducted himself? How tone deaf can you be?

he is still under investigation - then what

With respect, the Mumsnet echo chamber always thinks that Labour is surely going to win because "How could they not?"
Then lo and behold, they lose. So maybe Mumsnet is blindly left leaning?
I know the Conservatives will not won the next general election. They are thinking of how to minimize their losses.

Putting Johnson in isn’t going to minimise their losses. Have you seen his popularity ratings outside the Tory faithful?

It's a calculated gamble due to his track record in elections. There's no record to speak of in national terms with Mordant and Sunak. Plus he did win a big majority and these are his policies. So if it all goes tits up on election night then he is the guy responsible.

These are his policies? You mean the ones he was elected on, Levelling up, Hurrah for the North etc.? Much of that can't be implemented, thanks Truss, so are there some more or is it simply, 'I'm Boris, vote me'?

@Mobiledesktop but he’s already ‘the guy responsible’ for trashing the UK? 60 members of the Government told him so 6 weeks ago? What exactly has changed? He wants to carry on with those policies and while still special measures personally? I think he may not get to 100 and it’s disgraceful to imagine he gets anywhere near that.

I live "up North" and it's very nice here thank you.
I could work 24 / 7 if I wanted to. The media narrative of the blighted North is nonsense.

I heard a Red Wall MP on Today programme, don't know who, they're a mass of unknowns, say that the Red Wall voters will never support Sunak so it's got to be Boris. I wonder why that would be? I suspect, like Brexit, it's not an opinion based on logic but something a lot more basic.

"Trashing the UK" Come come, that's enough internet for you for one day.

Thick racist right wingers love Boris shock.