Suella Braverman. Is she always like that or is she unwell?

[newnamethanks]

Dear Lord above, I've seen people removed and banned from pubs for less. She's the Home Secretary. What have we come to?

You re proper Tory aren't you? We all got to know our station in life and stay there.

I prefer to admire someone who is a carer or perhaps someone like my DD, a AHP who rehabilitates stroke patients.... but you do actually highlight why social care/nhs is wrecked, you people look down on healthcare workers don't you? your posts stink of it..

Braverman took advantage of the EU's Erasmus program and then made sure none of our kids can study at the Sorbonne again.

She is also very far to the right of Marine Le Pen.

@citroenpresse funny that. Presumably the expectation is that the party membership are 'good sorts'. not sure if an any early GE can cope when the legislative requirements for the 'improvements' you set out outpace the operational introduction.

@Zilla1 sincerely hope a GE will be called before the Trump style voter repression ‘improvements’ can be enacted though given Tory legislation is designed to be incoherent to avoid scrutiny, hard to tell.

However they try to gerrymander the result the scum are literally harming our country now far worse than anything any other party could achieve. May they be cursed to the ends of time. Absolute bustards.

Speaking of Trump, Steve Bannon, architect of much of our misfortune, just got a 4 month prison sentence. Hurrah😀wish it was 3 time as long.

He will take it as a badge of honour. He was an early global disruptor and proto fascist who saw the opportunity with Trump and Johnson.The aryan nation white nationalists in prison will probably protect him. The Tories think all this chaos and destruction is some sort of game and Johnson is the ultimate lord of misrule. This is how democracies die.

What a load of bollocks

Can't disagree with that, vera99, Kool Aid in the global water supply. It's so bloody grim.

You've totally missed the point .

You've totally missed the point

in which case you haven’t explained it very well. Would you like to try again?

@Mobiledesktop clearly is the type to think working class/ethnic minorities etc are in good positions because they’re just diversity hires

@vera99 now seems that 20k Tory members may not be able to vote in the leadership election because it was going to be online and they don’t have valid email addresses - the level of Tory chaos.

I would hazard a guess the majority would like Boris over Rishi - just a hunch - whilst my preference is for none of the above at least Sunak would do his best to keep the ship afloat whilst Johnson wouldn't even know he was on the ship.

The membership won't be getting a vote this time. There'll be one candidate with 100+

Sunak now has over 100 supporters whereas Johnson and Mordaunt are struggling.

I think the membership will also have a vote @OneTC. According to the papers, there’ll be a round where MPs will vote, and a round where members will vote.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/oct/21/boris-johnson-gaining-ground-on-rishi-sunak-in-tory-leadership-race

In the article I’ve linked to, it says:
Allies of Johnson boasted he would “easily” make the threshold of 100 MPs, and argued he would be a strong contender to win in a ballot of the 150,000 Tory members.

Graham Brady needs to tread very carefully here.

Boris has to get to 100 first - presumably Brady has assessed that’s the level he might not get (70ish max?). This idea that he’s tremendously popular - such a myth…the two elements that propelled him to 2019 victory (opposition leader a Tory electoral asset and getting Brexit done) both gone but obviously with the dreadful election act and attempts to manipulate system, UK now left with despicable party they may not be able to remove. It’s obvious there can be no stability whatsoever until GE but Tories don’t operate in national interest, only their own.

BJ doesn't need to be tremendously popular, all he needs is 100 MPs to back him & IF he manages that (which he will) he can demand it goes to to the membership and too many of them will never vote for a non white candidate.

So once again, the membership will foist on us a PM that MPs don't support, more factional infighting and then potentially that report but has it the power to remove him even if guilty? or can he just ride it out?

Could he even axe the probe?

Poor UK.

so it sounds like there are two front runners
and the members wlll possibly vote for boris

i wonder how much man handling is going on this time!

If it’s Johnson we’ll get a GE. There are MPs saying they’ll trigger by-elections or cross the floor if he’s back. Moodys downgraded the UK last night. We’ll have more weeks of utter chaos and the Tories will be gone for a very long time. They seem hellbent on self destruction.

If the UK was to announce a GE, international financial outlook would probably instantly improve given the polls and prospect of serious government after 12 years of zombie operations. But both Sunak and Johnson - the dog that returns to its vomit - will avoid at all costs. Truss was supported because Johnson knew she’d fail and only her totally nut nuts failure would make his seem less dreadful (though obviously in many ways it’s much, much worse).

Why does Angela Raynor wear those ridiculous hair extensions? She looks like a version of My Little Pony!

The Cons are polling 14%.

No party leadership is going to call a GE on those numbers, so unless 30 plus Tories cross to Labour and support a VONC, we are stuck with (probably BJ) for the next 2 years.