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Will Liz Truss resign today? Part 2: PMQs

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sunnydaytoday0 · 19/10/2022 10:24

Well she's staggered on to PMQs today. Get the popcorn ready.

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SleeplessInEngland · 19/10/2022 12:57

derxa · 19/10/2022 12:50

I think what a lot of you want is her bursting into tears and running off. She toughed it out today. And I'm no fan.

Well I certainly expected nothing different. PMQs has been a waste of time for yeas. Doesn't change her fate.

ilovesooty · 19/10/2022 12:58

derxa · 19/10/2022 12:50

I think what a lot of you want is her bursting into tears and running off. She toughed it out today. And I'm no fan.

Couldn't care less whether she bursts into tears or not. I want her to resign or be removed.

As for "toughed it out" I'd describe that as a total inability to acknowledge any accountability.

Ontobetterthings · 19/10/2022 12:58

Worst PM I've ever seen and there's plenty to pick from.

derxa · 19/10/2022 12:59

SleeplessInEngland · 19/10/2022 12:57

Well I certainly expected nothing different. PMQs has been a waste of time for yeas. Doesn't change her fate.

I totally agree. It's a pantomime

lannistunut · 19/10/2022 13:00

derxa · 19/10/2022 12:50

I think what a lot of you want is her bursting into tears and running off. She toughed it out today. And I'm no fan.

I don't want her toughing it out when she has clearly demonstrated she is a dreadful PM.

How is refusing to acknowledge you are not up to the job a praiseworthy trait?

Do not care if there are tears or not, just want an election.

TooBigForMyBoots · 19/10/2022 13:00

SleeplessInEngland · 19/10/2022 12:23

Triple lock is now staying, apparently. The right arm doesn't know what the left is doing.

Says Liz Truss.😂😂😂

BirmaBrite · 19/10/2022 13:01

I wouldn't trust her on the Triple lock, she can say whatever she likes now but it isn't due to be reinstated until April is it ?

MadeForThis · 19/10/2022 13:02

Bet there is a u-turn in that too.

derxa · 19/10/2022 13:03

Do not care if there are tears or not, just want an election. There shouldn't be any possibility of tears. Let's have an election sooner rather than later. More of the same...

ilovesooty · 19/10/2022 13:07

As for toughing it out, she's as petulant as Johnson when she's challenged personally. She slammed her papers down when Starmer asked "Why is she still here?" and that didn't go unnoticed, given the reaction in the House.

Blossomtoes · 19/10/2022 13:07

TooBigForMyBoots · 19/10/2022 13:00

Says Liz Truss.😂😂😂

They’re stuck with it now. Can you imagine the political capital to the opposition if they go back on it while she’s still PM? I bet Hunt’s spitting nails.

Tangled123 · 19/10/2022 13:08

‘We are compassionate conservatives’ 😂😂😂😂

TokyoSushi · 19/10/2022 13:09

Checking in

derxa · 19/10/2022 13:09

ilovesooty · 19/10/2022 13:07

As for toughing it out, she's as petulant as Johnson when she's challenged personally. She slammed her papers down when Starmer asked "Why is she still here?" and that didn't go unnoticed, given the reaction in the House.

Yet everyone was blowing smoke up Drakesford's arse for doing exactly the same thing.

BarrelOfOtters · 19/10/2022 13:12

Be interesting to see fracking vote later. There’s a 3 line Tory whip, no leave allowed.

cherrytreelanecherries · 19/10/2022 13:13

Blossomtoes · 19/10/2022 12:41

She’ll be punished for that. It clearly hasn’t sunk in who’s in charge yet.

Really? I thought Hunt looked on board with it. I thought pretending it was under threat and then confirming it wasn’t was a strategy to get the right headlines out of PMQs (and seems to have worked for now).

They sent James Cleverly out this morning to say they definitely wouldn’t be making any commitments on it today, how awkward. Unless he was in on it too. Who even knows anymore.

MagpiePi · 19/10/2022 13:13

She seems to have the attitude now that she's said sorry (not sorry) for pushing through radical but totally necessary policies too fast 🙄but she is the one to bring stability and sort out the mess that was nothing to do with her, or the 12 years of Tory government that she was part of.

ilovesooty · 19/10/2022 13:13

derxa · 19/10/2022 13:09

Yet everyone was blowing smoke up Drakesford's arse for doing exactly the same thing.

I'm not talking about anyone else debating different issues in a different place. I'm talking about her.

Whataboutery.

coffeerevelsrule · 19/10/2022 13:14

It's not the slamming of the papers in itself, derxa, it's slamming them when called to account for a fucking disaster that you caused (Truss) compared to slamming them when someone tries to blame you for something another person who they support actually caused (Drakeford). He was rightly indignant. She was just stroppy because the truth hurts and anyone with a shred of self-respect or respect for others would, in her position, have had the decency to stand down.

Blossomtoes · 19/10/2022 13:16

BarrelOfOtters · 19/10/2022 13:12

Be interesting to see fracking vote later. There’s a 3 line Tory whip, no leave allowed.

Labour sources claimed Tory whips had walked into a trap set for them, and that although they did not expect to win the vote, Labour had online adverts ready to go targeting every Tory MP who backed fracking.

The Guardian

ilovesooty · 19/10/2022 13:16

coffeerevelsrule · 19/10/2022 13:14

It's not the slamming of the papers in itself, derxa, it's slamming them when called to account for a fucking disaster that you caused (Truss) compared to slamming them when someone tries to blame you for something another person who they support actually caused (Drakeford). He was rightly indignant. She was just stroppy because the truth hurts and anyone with a shred of self-respect or respect for others would, in her position, have had the decency to stand down.

Thank you for responding to that absurd comment far better than I did @coffeerevelsrule .

lannistunut · 19/10/2022 13:17

derxa · 19/10/2022 13:09

Yet everyone was blowing smoke up Drakesford's arse for doing exactly the same thing.

Context is everything - Truss fucked up the economy, Drakeford did not.

The public are not on Truss' side, Truss has the worst personal rating in history, the electorate want Truss to fuck off.

derxa · 19/10/2022 13:17

coffeerevelsrule · 19/10/2022 13:14

It's not the slamming of the papers in itself, derxa, it's slamming them when called to account for a fucking disaster that you caused (Truss) compared to slamming them when someone tries to blame you for something another person who they support actually caused (Drakeford). He was rightly indignant. She was just stroppy because the truth hurts and anyone with a shred of self-respect or respect for others would, in her position, have had the decency to stand down.

Drakeford has mismanaged the NHS in Wales. Yes the truth hurts

SafeMove · 19/10/2022 13:18

Faciadipasta · 19/10/2022 12:35

Honestly can't believe they're keeping the pensions triple lock. I mean I can BELIEVE it obviously- core voter and all that - but how can they do that without raising benefits, or public sector pay? As a group pensioners really aren't the most hard up. Recent reports have shown that food poverty for households with children is double that for households without. And pensioners are getting the winter fuel payments too, right?

Did anyone seen the guy from Sunderland this morning, on the Nicky Campbell COL crisis QT type thing? He was saying we must be 'grateful' for what the government have 'generously given' to certain groups of people - he is a pensioner on benefits and he listed two one off payments for cost of living (£326 ish each payment), the winter fuel discount and the energy rebate. He probably has a free bus pass too.

This is why we have a Conservative govt - because people vote individually, not collectively. That 'generously given' payment is seen as the government bequeathing money to lucky groups - but that money is not coming from the pockets of politicians is it? They are administering that money. That money is coming from tax receipts but the electorate misunderstand public service and administration.

lannistunut · 19/10/2022 13:18

coffeerevelsrule · 19/10/2022 13:14

It's not the slamming of the papers in itself, derxa, it's slamming them when called to account for a fucking disaster that you caused (Truss) compared to slamming them when someone tries to blame you for something another person who they support actually caused (Drakeford). He was rightly indignant. She was just stroppy because the truth hurts and anyone with a shred of self-respect or respect for others would, in her position, have had the decency to stand down.

Yes well explained - righteous anger =/= stroppy tantrum.