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Covid named and shamed

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Otterspotter13 · 18/10/2022 05:23

I’m a healthcare worker, returned to work after a week of sick leave due to Covid. Kids also recovered and back at school. At home partner was weakly positive on antigen test (he tested positive when myself and kids were at end of our 7 days isolation) but he has never had any symptoms. Kids had missed their swimming lessons last week when they were isolating with me. On the day of my return to work, partner who should be isolating brought them to their swimming lesson. He left them enter the building themselves so he himself wouldn’t have to go inside. But at collection time he entered building, wrapped their towels around each of them and quickly left with them, bringing them straight to car so they could change there. I was at work on a 13 hr shift wearing a sweaty ffp2 mask out of consideration for my colleagues. I checked my texts and there was a message on a 10 member girl group I’m on, naming and shaming my partner because one of them knew he was positive and saw him at pool collecting kids and not wearing a mask. He is not in this group to defend himself. I’m obviously angry with him for not wearing a mask and have told him off regarding this, he realizes he was in the wrong. He says he repeated the antigen and the line is barely visible, he doesn’t believe he has covid as he is asymptomatic. He was in and out in seconds. Not defending his actions but his mistakes are his and he is not me. Im a hardworking hcw who has always respected covid guidelines. However now I have to deal with his mistake on this toxic WhatsApp group, who are publicly naming him and giving out, like I’m not there or something. He isn’t on this group. I feel it is not appropriate and this person isn’t behaving like a friend should, calling him out like this. Our partners are friends. I feel that if she has a problem she should have contacted him directly or asked her partner to discuss with him. I feel that this woman, a real stickler for the covid rules, she wants to keep covid alive when really it should be buried along with the bloody antigen tests. I’m so over it. I want to leave this group now as I don’t want to participate in toxic behavior. Aibu?

OP posts:
PerfectlyPreservedQuagaarWarrior · 18/10/2022 09:40

Benjispruce4 · 18/10/2022 09:34

@Brefugee I’ve not heard of asymptomatic flu. Same goes for colds, don’t go to work!

Yeah a lot of people haven't. It's quite an interesting topic, hard to get an accurate steer on because we don't routinely test for it and obviously people who aren't ill don't seek medical care. I was interested in this meta analysis where they gave it a try.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4586318/

Mariposista · 18/10/2022 09:41

Have these silly women entered a time warm and they think we're still in 2020? Wake up darlings! No more testing and isolation anymore. Each to their own and live and let live!
(OP I understand you needed to test in your work capacity, which is fine, but your kids and OH don't, so they have no right judging any of them).

Glitterspy · 18/10/2022 09:43

You seem to think that because you’re a healthcare worker your partner somehow is exempt from rules everyone else has to follow?

You know you’re in the wrong. Stop being so bloody self/righteous

missmamiecuddleduck · 18/10/2022 09:44

A good lesson in never sharing anything personal with anyone. It can and will be gossiped about and used against you.

She's VU for gossiping like that. Some people live for it though, as that's all they have in life to feel important.

User1275936 · 18/10/2022 09:45

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 18/10/2022 09:12

We are supposed to stay home if positive for 5 days

No, you're supposed to try and 'avoid people' if you have symptoms. It's all in the wording...

www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/self-isolation-and-treatment/when-to-self-isolate-and-what-to-do/

I genuinely worry for the level of comprehension skills in the general population. As you say, @GreenFingersWouldBeHandy, it’s all in the wording.

“Try to stay at home and avoid contact with other people”

Benjispruce4 · 18/10/2022 09:47

Yes so try to means stay at home unless absolutely necessary. What would stop you ‘trying’? An urgent swimming lesson???

User1275936 · 18/10/2022 09:49

Benjispruce4 · 18/10/2022 09:47

Yes so try to means stay at home unless absolutely necessary. What would stop you ‘trying’? An urgent swimming lesson???

Exactly, @Benjispruce4 . People seem to be unwilling now to accept even a minor inconvenience to their selfish lives.

Brefugee · 18/10/2022 09:50

Have these silly women entered a time warm and they think we're still in 2020? Wake up darlings! No more testing and isolation anymore. Each to their own and live and let live!

don't be a knob. Would you let your child go to school with a communicable disease?
It is all about us all growing the fuck up and being sensible. If you know you have something and can't avoid being with other people: wear a mask for the short time you have to do it.

Long covid is a thing. Everyone else who has ever contracted a post viral thing and not been taken seriously is pointing and waving because this has been A Thing since viruses have been around.

Just because it was very mild for you and everyone you've known, other people - not so much. And people who are vulnerable also have to go about their lives to. Have a bit of consideration and we'll all be fine.

Wednesdaywobbles · 18/10/2022 09:50

I got a text from our Childrens Hospital (Major Trauma Childrens Hospital - so not a small local hospital) last week to say that masks are no longer needed in the hospital and 2 parents can now attend appointments. DD had an operation 3 weeks ago, the covid testing ended months ago.

People absolutely need to move on it's absolutely bonkers that this has happened to you

Benjispruce4 · 18/10/2022 09:52

@Wednesdaywobbles i had a text from my GP saying only come in to surgery if absolutely necessary and wear a mask. Our local hospital has also reintroduced masks last week. DD took a flight to Spain last week and had to wear a mask(BA) as cases on the up.

Damnautocorrect · 18/10/2022 09:53

Brefugee · 18/10/2022 09:21

Few people are actually testing anymore, and if you do test positive what are the implications now?

since we don't test for flu and do pass it around if we're asymptomatic - and people don't test for covid and ditto, perhaps what we need to do is rethink some of what we do in our daily lives?

Handwashing and not touching our faces after touching things outside until we have?
Coughing into the crook of the elbow (has been taught in German kindergarten for at least the last 25 years)
Not shaking hands?
wearing a mask when we are ill but not bedridden?
Not standing too close to people unless it really can't be avoided?

None of those things seems particularly difficult?

I’m one of the hard core mask wearers still going so I’m not trying to be facetious in my question.

I agree, it starts at school with attendance awards etc though doesn’t it and going in to work at all costs. You just spread it about.

Ivyonafence · 18/10/2022 09:55

I think it's shitty to walk around with a communicable disease and no mask. Your partner was being thoughtless and there's a social consequence for selfish behaviour.

It's depressing that people seem to do exactly the bare legal minimum and then pay themselves on the back. No thought to who their actions might hurt.

Garysmum · 18/10/2022 09:56

Jumperoo56370000 · 18/10/2022 07:32

It’s so depressing seeing the shitty responses from healthcare workers. Nice to know how little you actually care about other people. Probably someone like you gave my elderly mother Covid. Real heroes. 🙄

Couldn't agree more. I am CEV and of course I wear and FP3 or 2 mask when out. But I am aware of various health practitioners not wearing masks and actively seeing patients with covid yet my GP has closed down 4 times in the last year due to covid.
I understand lots of people need to get on with life with covid but so do I - how the hell do I know who to avoid?
I do wonder if some people's attitudes would change if they ended up with life long chronic illness due to covid (not wishing it on them obvs)? Many of us have had chronic health issues start as a simple post viral complication.

Damnautocorrect · 18/10/2022 09:56

I do think it’s irresponsible if you’ve tested and you “know” to go out. However I’m also aware barely anyone is testing now and it’s quite contradictory to feel that way.

Damnautocorrect · 18/10/2022 09:57

Garysmum · 18/10/2022 09:56

Couldn't agree more. I am CEV and of course I wear and FP3 or 2 mask when out. But I am aware of various health practitioners not wearing masks and actively seeing patients with covid yet my GP has closed down 4 times in the last year due to covid.
I understand lots of people need to get on with life with covid but so do I - how the hell do I know who to avoid?
I do wonder if some people's attitudes would change if they ended up with life long chronic illness due to covid (not wishing it on them obvs)? Many of us have had chronic health issues start as a simple post viral complication.

I know a few people who have long covid still from 2020 infections. I worry what happens if they catch it again.

lovelilies · 18/10/2022 09:58

Only people admitted To hospital get covid tested.
On a daily basis loads of people present to me with a cough/fever etc and do not get tested. Then they go about their merry ways spreading whatever they've got. It's how it is.
I wear a mask when patient facing.
I've had covid twice and do not get paid when off with covid related sickness.

So that's that. Most of the general public do not give a fig about covid IME any more.

notdaddycool · 18/10/2022 10:01

Whether or not he had just reply with he'd tested negative by that stage, but still minimised his contact.

PeloFondo · 18/10/2022 10:06

Not to the OP but it is really tricky
I get told I need to "protect myself and it's not up to others" being CEV
But how? If people who are positive are going to a chemist or supermarket etc then protecting myself means not going in there
But then if I wear a mask and avoid the chemist and supermarket people say I'm being ridiculous and "it's over and I need to get on with it"
Confused
Can't win either way

I mean if I knew I had covid and someone with cancer was in the chemist, I wouldn't be going in, but that's what people are doing because cancer isn't visible and anyone immunocompromised could be out and about
I don't know, just voicing thoughts!

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 18/10/2022 10:07

Benjispruce4 · 18/10/2022 09:34

@Brefugee I’ve not heard of asymptomatic flu. Same goes for colds, don’t go to work!

Yeah - about one third of flu cases are asymptomatic

Abouttimemum · 18/10/2022 10:08

Well he doesn’t have to isolate and people are walking around left right and centre with Covid so I’d be pissed off with this person to be honest. What’s to say others at the swimming lesson had it and didn’t even know? Or had it but didn’t say anything. I’d probably just leave a link to the gov.uk guidance. And tell her to stay at home
of she doesn’t want to catch it.

WizardOfUK · 18/10/2022 10:10

YellowTreeHouse · 18/10/2022 06:21

I’d tell her to stop being a bitch. That it was not necessary for him to wear a mask, he could easily have stayed and watched the whole lesson if he wanted to.

He didn’t do anything wrong. There are no rules. He could be fully positive and wandering around with covid no issue, working too if he wanted to, and not have to feel guilty about doing so.

So I’d be telling her to get over herself because covid isn’t going anywhere and she needs to live with it.

This with bells on

User1275936 · 18/10/2022 10:11

Abouttimemum · 18/10/2022 10:08

Well he doesn’t have to isolate and people are walking around left right and centre with Covid so I’d be pissed off with this person to be honest. What’s to say others at the swimming lesson had it and didn’t even know? Or had it but didn’t say anything. I’d probably just leave a link to the gov.uk guidance. And tell her to stay at home
of she doesn’t want to catch it.

The guidance is to try to stay home for 5 days if you test positive. So that would just be proving her right and the DH wrong.
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/self-isolation-and-treatment/when-to-self-isolate-and-what-to-do/
Try to stay at home and avoid contact with other people

User1275936 · 18/10/2022 10:13

WizardOfUK · 18/10/2022 10:10

This with bells on

This “there are no rules” thing just makes you look ignorant.

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/self-isolation-and-treatment/when-to-self-isolate-and-what-to-do/

Benjispruce4 · 18/10/2022 10:14

It’s wishful thinking!

Tralalalalalalalalalala · 18/10/2022 10:17

So it sounds like the only way to make people behave responsibly is to "make rules", Pretty sad isn't it.
Sounds like you are about 10 years old if you need rules before using common sense.