Will Liz Truss resign today?

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Or maybe Tuesday at the latest? Would she really want to face the absolute public humiliation of PMQs on Wednesday?

But he has invaded. Prices for goods and services changed dramatically during and after covid.
Moreover, I work in global procurement for a blue chip, and supplies of commodities are slow to come back online, containers are missing, and ports are blocked. China is in and out of lockdown. Some products like microchips have moved to a different design, leaving manufacturers to redesign. Buying habits changed during covid and continue to do so post covid.

There's a delusional thought process much like during covid that we actually have control over the world and systems we've created. Chaos is being kind.
If Labour win, energy, food, commodities, household goods, and tradesmen won't suddenly multiply. Prices won't suddenly go back to the pre covid norm.
It not going to happen.

At this point the tories' only hope is if Putin goes nuclear on Ukraine. I'm not being facetious: he'll now be so desperate it's not outside the realm of possibility and 'defence' is the only polling metric left the tories still beat Labour on.

The Union is supposed to voluntary & your party has how many MPs in Scotland? actually how many pro unionist MP's has Scotland got?

Scotland would do well on its own, as do many small countries, Truss and Tories are doing untold damage to the union and untold good to the nationalist cause.

My Grandad was from Dundee and we've our own family Tartan, if thats relevant?

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'Utter pish' 😂

Thats irrelevant, Scotland is entitled to decide for itself whether to stay in the Union, or its stops becoming a voluntary union.

If the economic benefit is so great for staying, then you have nothing fear from another vote.

One economist saying its "utter pish" is again irrelevant... TBH i was expecting a slightly better argument from you.

What a thing to suggest. If you want the polls to improve a better way is for the war to end. A lot of the outside pressure ends and no death and destruction in Ukraine

Although defence is key I agree on that. Worrying if Labour are not up to it.

Although defence is key I agree on that. Worrying if Labour are not up to it

Its the Tories that have reduced the UK's defence forces to almost zero, current cuts will see the infantry reduced to 20k soldiers.

Whatever Putin decides upon, the response will be led by the USA, not UK.

Strange people still want to try and paint Labour in a negative light when it comes to defence, they have 100% support for the UK's response on Ukraine, so i guess the default for their X is Conservative? as there is no evidence Labour would act differently.

Personally, i'd not want someone with Truss's instability in charge of the UK's defences, she did want to get rid of Trident.

I am always unclear how Labour have both the reputation for warmongering (e.g. Iraq) and the reputation for being soft on war - at the same time.

According to pp Tories poll better on defence. So no painting required.

Wallace is very good though. It’ll be a shame if / when he goes ie at a GE.

What a thing to suggest. If you want the polls to improve a better way is for the war to end. A lot of the outside pressure ends and no death and destruction in Ukraine

Best tell Putin to take his troops back behind Russias borders then. The war could end today if he does that.

What a pointless answer. Wanting Putin to ‘go nuclear’ in Ukraine is an odd thing to desire no matter what.

Who cares what a pp said?

the evidence is there, Tories have cut defence spending over the last 12 years, what do you think austerity is? and it hasn't gone away - thanks to their terrible decision making.

Remember Wallace telling us all that UK troops in Ukraine would send Russia packing as they did in the Crimea centuries ago?

Crocodile tears over Afghanistan but since hasn't got more Afghans out, indeed was part of that disaster too.

I don't think 20k soldiers would do that, when Ukraine, armed with 10s of billions of Nato weapons and many more troops have not yet done so.

Who cares what a pp said?

You’re right. No point in caring what anyone says. It’s all Labour stuff. We’ll see how well they do soon. Hopefully close to your expectations.

Huh, where did I say I want Putin to go nuclear in Ukraine?

You seem to think that he should be allowed to stay, that's not really an option.

If you’re going to quote at least follow what you are quoting.

My response to a pp suggesting Putin go nuclear to improve Tory polls. The last line is just making stuff up.

You are the one quoting a pp to support your argument, not me.

I look for the evidence on posters claims, thats all, if the Tories come out with decent policies, i'd vote for them but they have had 12.5 years in power and things have been getting worse in the UK long before CV or Ukraine.

Truss has been in Govt for almost all of that time too, yet you support a party that put her in first as Trade, the Foreign and now PM.

I didn’t get a choice but I would have chosen Sunak. It’s a shame he was damaged so convincingly in the media beforehand.

I’m not wedded to a party and like many the last election turned me off Labour, which was their failing. They could win me back. I think people’s expectations in this global climate are high and we’re in very different times to Blair years - who I did vote for.

@Walkingonsunshinekat I despair of these Tory apologists, I really do. No matter what the Tories do, it's always 'Labour will be worse' with zero evidence to back that up. What will it take for these people to see that their party is currently an utter shitshow full of people who are utterly incompetent and corrupt? I can only assume that these ultra-loyalists are cushioned comfortably from the financial storm and are founder members of the I'm Alright Jack brigade.

And yes, I would be saying exactly the same thing if the Labour party were the ones who had been in power for over 12 years and had degenerated into this. Blind loyalty is stupid.

I get the insults make people feel good for whatever reason but honestly I hope Labour will be as good as you all say.

Otherwise it’s going to be very difficult.

The best case for either party is the war ends soon.

My response to a pp suggesting Putin go nuclear to improve Tory polls. The last line is just making stuff up.

I thought you were taking the piss with that if I'm honest.

If Labour cannot win you back after the last 12 years, then absolutely nothing will.

In no particular order or time line - Defence, the Economy, Pensions, Social Care, Ruining european trade and co operation, NHS, education, Council Tax rises, transport inc Roads and Rail - ALL worse than pre 2010.

As i said, all of the above were awful pre Covid and the money Sunak wasted on PPE, Testing and Business support loans is nothing short of criminal.

Hospitality inflation is at 14% and that industry blames Brexit for its woes - who supported that? Mr Sunak and the rest of the Government.

We’ll see I don’t decide before manifestos come out. You don’t need me obviously, Labour is likely to win.

One silver lining is with a majority they won’t need to concede and do any deals for power. That could swing me more than anything.

Let’s hope when they get in it meets people’s expectations (and the things that concern me don’t happen.)

Reading back through the posts, the only person making an insult is you, accusing a poster of wanting a nuclear war in Ukraine.

Would you keep using a builder who repeatedly let you down? or have a car that was constantly in the garage?

Would you say "oh but another builder/car would be worse" whilst having no evidence for this?

12.5 years is plenty long enough, one thing that i find utterly bizarre is that, on a primarily womens forum, the defence of a party that has reduced maternity services to that of a developing countries standard.

er that’s not an insult it was in their post

Anyway there’s not much more to say. I’ll see what the manifestos and policies are and weigh up other considerations eg getting a majority so not do deals.

I’m sure Labour will win in any case so it’s going to be much better soon - if you’re all right. That’s good . I’m not as certain as some, but I’d rather you were right than not.

The Tories destroyed women's rights. We are in a worse position than we were in 2010. I can't understand anyone who thinks or ever thought a vote for Conservatives was good for women.🤦‍♀️