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Will Liz Truss resign today?

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sunnydaytoday0 · 17/10/2022 01:00

Or maybe Tuesday at the latest? Would she really want to face the absolute public humiliation of PMQs on Wednesday?

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the80sweregreat · 18/10/2022 15:23

Her mathematical brain didn't tell any of us how she was going to pay back the money they wanted to borrow for tax cuts fir her rich mates did it ?
You need common sense for that one
Now we all have to pay back a huge 75 billion black hole that wasn't mentioned three weeks ago !

PerfectlyPreservedQuagaarWarrior · 18/10/2022 15:32

LT is just not going to resign.
Do you really not remember the number of apparent "last chances" Boris had ffs? He stayed for 3 years and 44 days.
Liz Truss is going nowhere. Her remit to be literally unbelievably shit with zero consequences is much larger than most people seem to understand.

I think she will have to be forced out rather than resign, but her position is massively different to Johnson's. He got away with behaviour that would've seen most people out on their arses because he was so popular with his backbenchers. Truss isn't. She's never going to have the opportunity to play under the same rules as he did.

the80sweregreat · 18/10/2022 15:34

If the daily Mail turn on her there might be a chance we might see the back of her
It's unlikely , but if they go for the pensioners ...
Might be a back lash then ?

AlecTrevelyan006 · 18/10/2022 15:44

I wouldn’t be surprised if she’s been told not to resign - the 1922 committee need to work out a way to ensure a ‘smooth’ and face saving way of replacing her. Then she’ll be out the door.

MarshaBradyo · 18/10/2022 15:45

AlecTrevelyan006 · 18/10/2022 15:44

I wouldn’t be surprised if she’s been told not to resign - the 1922 committee need to work out a way to ensure a ‘smooth’ and face saving way of replacing her. Then she’ll be out the door.

I hope this is the case

TheGhostOfLiz · 18/10/2022 15:47

the80sweregreat · 18/10/2022 15:23

Her mathematical brain didn't tell any of us how she was going to pay back the money they wanted to borrow for tax cuts fir her rich mates did it ?
You need common sense for that one
Now we all have to pay back a huge 75 billion black hole that wasn't mentioned three weeks ago !

Nope.

Nor will it tell any of us how to pay energy bills once they jump up in April.

Average costs being predicted at around £350 per month from that point onwards.

I am so bloody angry with them for farting around over the last few weeks, wasting precious time to get a better grip of the countries problems. Instead, just indulging in some teenage-rebel fantasy of making the country richer by blowing all our money and reputation into the wind.

No wonder Truss's dad doesn't speak to her. I bloody wouldn't either.

TheGhostOfLiz · 18/10/2022 15:50

AlecTrevelyan006 · 18/10/2022 15:44

I wouldn’t be surprised if she’s been told not to resign - the 1922 committee need to work out a way to ensure a ‘smooth’ and face saving way of replacing her. Then she’ll be out the door.

The only dignified way to do this is to put a caretaker PM in that people have some degree of respect for/is a safe pair of hands. I am not May's biggest fan but she may well fit that bill.

Then call a GE asap and accept the consequences. Focus on regrouping and coming back fighting in 5 years.

The government cannot just keep changing policy in a series of unmandated turns and u-turns and then expect to keep on swimming. Better bite the bullet now than wait for the slow, inevitable bleed to death.

HRTQueen · 18/10/2022 15:52

AlecTrevelyan006 · 18/10/2022 15:44

I wouldn’t be surprised if she’s been told not to resign - the 1922 committee need to work out a way to ensure a ‘smooth’ and face saving way of replacing her. Then she’ll be out the door.

Yes I agree

its all happened so quickly.

PerfectlyPreservedQuagaarWarrior · 18/10/2022 15:57

I can't stand May but it would admittedly be hilarious.

jennakong · 18/10/2022 16:00

I think the ending of the energy price cap is another throw of the dice, a shot in the dark. That they fervently hope the Russians will have been roundly defeated in Ukraine by then, that Putin may even be ousted and there will some kind of new configuration of power in Moscow, and that oil and gas prices will have taken a tumble. It's a government of gamblers.

SleeplessInEngland · 18/10/2022 16:13

Extraordinary poll from ⁦@ InstituteGC
⁩⁩Strong majority think Brexit has damaged economy. Tiny number believe we should keep things as they are. More Leave voters support rejoin or Single Market than status quo. 70:30 majority overall for closer relationship with EU.

sunnydaytoday0 · 18/10/2022 16:13

LT is just not going to resign.

She might not be given the chance, her MPs are seeing all the polls consistently showing they face wipeout at the next election.

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the80sweregreat · 18/10/2022 16:15

Maybe the conservatives want 'total wipeout ' ?
That may realize that it's going to be so bad now that they don't want power any more
Blame all the poo on Labour
Opposition must be easier than trying to balance the books

PerfectlyPreservedQuagaarWarrior · 18/10/2022 16:16

Maybe the conservatives want 'total wipeout ' ?
That may realize that it's going to be so bad now that they don't want power any more

I very much doubt they want to be reduced to 130 seats, as was yesterday's polling.

sunnydaytoday0 · 18/10/2022 16:21

I very much doubt they want to be reduced to 130 seats, as was yesterday's polling.

According to an Express article I read yesterday a particular poll suggested the tories would only be left with ONE seat lol (South Holland and the Deepings)

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PerfectlyPreservedQuagaarWarrior · 18/10/2022 16:25

According to an Express article I read yesterday a particular poll suggested the tories would only be left with ONE seat lol (South Holland and the Deepings)

Lmao

the80sweregreat · 18/10/2022 16:25

They would have my MPs seat
He is like Teflon , he really really is

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PerfectlyPreservedQuagaarWarrior · 18/10/2022 16:31

Haha. I found this predicting 48 seats as of the 15th, may be lower now though. 192 seems laughably optimistic.

www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/prediction_main.html

RedToothBrush · 18/10/2022 17:03

PerfectlyPreservedQuagaarWarrior · 18/10/2022 16:31

Haha. I found this predicting 48 seats as of the 15th, may be lower now though. 192 seems laughably optimistic.

www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/prediction_main.html

Is that with the current boundaries or the new boundaries which are more favorable to the Conservatives?

There is not a cat in hells chance of the torys allowing the next election before that's formally sown up.

scaredoff · 18/10/2022 17:04

Choccolocko · 18/10/2022 12:30

Everyone has a vote and a voice in a democracy, brexit and brexiteers won an argument with lies and dog whistles and they refuse to back down from this argument. Like any group whose views or actions are harmful to the country, they need to be at least minimised and ideally cut out of the national conversation completely.

Look how successfully labour dealt with the Corbynistas.

"Everyone has a vote and a voice", but "some need to be cut out of the national conversation completely". Doesn't that mean NOT having a voice?

And in what way do you think "the Corbynistas" views or actions were harmful to the country?

RedToothBrush · 18/10/2022 17:04

That's may btw in case anyone is wondering

PerfectlyPreservedQuagaarWarrior · 18/10/2022 17:06

Not sure but I suspect the current boundaries, and agree the Tories will try and ensure seat lines more favourable to them are drawn up before going anywhere.

scaredoff · 18/10/2022 17:11

username345 · 17/10/2022 22:39

The TORIES are responsible for Brexit. The Tories are responsible for the Brexit negotiations and our current economic shit show. That's all on the Tories. The Tories are meant to be the party that can be trusted economically, now look what Truss did in her first three weeks. She TANKED the economy.

The Tories are responsible for the working poor, food banks, Dickensian levels of child poverty and utter disdain for the poor and sick. The first thing Truss does is tax favours for the wealthy when the majority of the country are wondering how they're going to pay their extortionate energy bill and ever increasing food bills.

I feel incandescent, yet people are still voting for these people expecting them to act with integrity. There are even calls for that craven liar Johnson to come back. You couldn't make it up.

Now I'm really confused. I thought it was Jeremy Corbyn that's responsible for all those things?

scaredoff · 18/10/2022 17:15

EmmaH2022 · 17/10/2022 21:48

Captured by...?

. . . the people who always controlled them in the first place.

I think the idea is that this is somehow a new thing. Cos the Conservative party used to be all about caring for everybody, you know.

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