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To think WTAF at ‘Bonk for Britain?’

334 replies

Upthebracket22 · 09/10/2022 17:58

Anyone seen this? It’s apparently based on a policy from (far right) Hungary where the media were saying that too many women were going to university and thus wouldn’t be having kids!

www.thesun.co.uk/news/20048496/women-tax-cuts-have-children/amp/

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Cuppasoupmonster · 09/10/2022 19:57

Upthebracket22 · 09/10/2022 19:55

@Cuppasoupmonster yea because there’s nothing remotely wrong with the term ‘bonk for Britain’ at all is there 🙄

It’s not the name of the policy, it’s been coined by a distasteful red top newspaper. Technically you could call the 30 free hours policy ‘bonk for Britain’. It’s all a load of rubbish.

FatKyle · 09/10/2022 19:58

Upthebracket22 · 09/10/2022 19:57

‘Come on Wimmin, drop your knickers and bonk for Britain. It’s your patriotic duty’ 🇬🇧

Fucks sake!

Feminism has never really supported motherhood has it. Sad.

luxxlisbon · 09/10/2022 19:58

Upthebracket22 · 09/10/2022 19:55

@Cuppasoupmonster yea because there’s nothing remotely wrong with the term ‘bonk for Britain’ at all is there 🙄

I mean it was published in The Sun and they sounds like a classic, tacky sun headline. Which is a lot more likely than it being an actual name for the policy.
But that would just be boring wouldn’t it.

FatKyle · 09/10/2022 20:02

Florenz · 09/10/2022 19:45

With existing people and the children they have. We can't rely on continually increasing the population because eventually there won't be any more room or resources. It's unsustainable.

There isn't enough existing people. Especially with the child rate going down rather than remaining stable. It won't work.

Cuppasoupmonster · 09/10/2022 20:02

FatKyle · 09/10/2022 19:58

Feminism has never really supported motherhood has it. Sad.

Nope. Unless someone says men can get pregnant than suddenly motherhood is seen as
something sacred and worth protecting.

CousinKrispy · 09/10/2022 20:05

Are we immigrants really hated so much in Britain? I guess so🙁

FatKyle · 09/10/2022 20:09

CousinKrispy · 09/10/2022 20:05

Are we immigrants really hated so much in Britain? I guess so🙁

What does that have to do with it? Do you think it's a good policy to draw young talent away from other countries and encourage British women to not reproduce?

Eunoia · 09/10/2022 20:09

FatKyle · 09/10/2022 20:02

There isn't enough existing people. Especially with the child rate going down rather than remaining stable. It won't work.

I really don't understand the argument of "Who will look after the ageing population?" against the discussion of over-population.

You are aware that over-population can only continue for so long until eventually resources will be depleted and society collapses?

The best solution to "who will look after the ageing population" is immigration, not continuing to increase the population until the inevitable collapse of society.

Where are the critical thinking skills???

FatKyle · 09/10/2022 20:09

Cuppasoupmonster · 09/10/2022 20:02

Nope. Unless someone says men can get pregnant than suddenly motherhood is seen as
something sacred and worth protecting.

True dat.

Dreamingcats · 09/10/2022 20:11

I think it's a terrible idea. The world needs fewer people, not more. It seems sick to me to not want foreigners here, but breeding the equivalent number of good British people is fine?!?!

Upthebracket22 · 09/10/2022 20:13

Somehow I really don’t think this shitty far right government that we currently have is desperately concerned about the problem of brain drain in other countries! They are just a bunch of racists who don’t want any immigrants (see Bravermans Xmas dream of sending a plane load to Rwanda)

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FatKyle · 09/10/2022 20:14

Eunoia · 09/10/2022 20:09

I really don't understand the argument of "Who will look after the ageing population?" against the discussion of over-population.

You are aware that over-population can only continue for so long until eventually resources will be depleted and society collapses?

The best solution to "who will look after the ageing population" is immigration, not continuing to increase the population until the inevitable collapse of society.

Where are the critical thinking skills???

Although immigrants generally never seem to have the internal struggle of whether to reproduce or not. They just do if they want to. That's just aimed at British women who should, it would seem, be breeding themselves out of the gene pool. And the ageing population will get bigger as the immigrants here age. Who will be looking after them? The children that they have?

Cuppasoupmonster · 09/10/2022 20:15

@Eunoia who then looks after the elderly in the countries that we’ve sapped all the young people from? Or are their elderly worth less than ours?

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 09/10/2022 20:17

And in the next breath it's "If you can't feed em don't breed em. You cant win .Also how fuckin dare they try tell people what to do with their own bodies. I'm beyond furious at this.

Eunoia · 09/10/2022 20:19

Cuppasoupmonster · 09/10/2022 20:15

@Eunoia who then looks after the elderly in the countries that we’ve sapped all the young people from? Or are their elderly worth less than ours?

Many countries are much bigger than the UK and have much more capacity for resources thus they can reproduce at a bigger rate than us, so they will never be short of young workers.

Cuppasoupmonster · 09/10/2022 20:21

Eunoia · 09/10/2022 20:19

Many countries are much bigger than the UK and have much more capacity for resources thus they can reproduce at a bigger rate than us, so they will never be short of young workers.

Like where? And what if their young workers don’t want to come to the U.K.? Why do we always presume everyone wants to live here and it’s just a case of ‘letting’ them?

StaunchMomma · 09/10/2022 20:21

Blessed be the fruit.

FatKyle · 09/10/2022 20:26

Eunoia · 09/10/2022 20:19

Many countries are much bigger than the UK and have much more capacity for resources thus they can reproduce at a bigger rate than us, so they will never be short of young workers.

Oh so it is a case of British women stop breeding as the rest of the world have enough resources to support their elders back home, and their elders in the UK too then. How very selfish of British women to want to have children, when they should just stop now and let others have that joy of raising kids.

Cuppasoupmonster · 09/10/2022 20:27

@FatKyle exactly! For a parenting website it has very strange views on being a parent…

Eunoia · 09/10/2022 20:28

Cuppasoupmonster · 09/10/2022 20:21

Like where? And what if their young workers don’t want to come to the U.K.? Why do we always presume everyone wants to live here and it’s just a case of ‘letting’ them?

Huh? People will always be looking to migrate. The UK has an immigration surplus because there are more foreign workers wanting to come here than we are able to take in. So the issue of 'young workers not wanting to come here' isn't even an issue...?

FatKyle · 09/10/2022 20:29

Cuppasoupmonster · 09/10/2022 20:27

@FatKyle exactly! For a parenting website it has very strange views on being a parent…

Yes. Particularly strange views about British parents. On a British parenting site.

Upthebracket22 · 09/10/2022 20:31

The other issue is that this country is doing an appallingly bad job of looking after the children it does have with rapidly rising levels of child poverty - plenty of kids but getting a decent meal and living in dreadful conditions

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Cuppasoupmonster · 09/10/2022 20:31

Upthebracket22 · 09/10/2022 20:31

The other issue is that this country is doing an appallingly bad job of looking after the children it does have with rapidly rising levels of child poverty - plenty of kids but getting a decent meal and living in dreadful conditions

🤔 it’s almost like a tax break for a mum with a few kids would help there…

WildFlowerBees · 09/10/2022 20:32

Under his eye.

FatKyle · 09/10/2022 20:33

Eunoia · 09/10/2022 20:28

Huh? People will always be looking to migrate. The UK has an immigration surplus because there are more foreign workers wanting to come here than we are able to take in. So the issue of 'young workers not wanting to come here' isn't even an issue...?

And the existing population, British women, the ones that want to remain in their country, also want to have children. Why should British women stop having children because other places are over populated and many migrants also want to move here. Surely your no children message should be directed at the rest of the world. Not to people in a country whose birth rate is going down anyway.

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