To think WTAF at ‘Bonk for Britain?’

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Anyone seen this? It’s apparently based on a policy from (far right) Hungary where the media were saying that too many women were going to university and thus wouldn’t be having kids!

www.thesun.co.uk/news/20048496/women-tax-cuts-have-children/amp/

I've wondered before how Hungary is allowed to stay in the EU!

This. What’s the harm? It’s still a choice.

Why is it not being put forward as a plan for men? What message would this give? What happens to the ‘status’ of women who don’t have children?

Exactly this.

Just another way for society to shit on childfree / childless women.

We need to reduce the population, not increase it. Ridiculous idea.

I'd have a house full of children if I could afford to work and pay for their childcare. Or we could afford to exist on one wage.

“This. What’s the harm? It’s still a choice”

Because its mysogynistic bullshit

Brillaint. Exactly what the world needs, more people.

We must all do our part for the Republic of Gilead

Still, I suppose 50% of all jobs would be freed up cause the women folk will be at home tending to their many offspring.

I assume the average house prices will then become affordable on one wage somehow. And the NHS, GPs, schools and other infrastructure will just sort itself out. They are so well funded at the moment...

Why is it misogynistic?

So promote the breeding, and do nothing to improve the infrastructure to support all of these newly spawned workers. Great idea if this was like simcity or something but if they really wanted bigger families to be feasible they’d have not closed the childrens’ centres that offered family support, stop dicking about with FSM, and offer better benefits to fathers.

How do you think it starts? With something big? I wish people knew their history.

It doesn’t support families. It doesn’t give children or parents better prospects. It just encourages women to give birth, in an otherwise unsupported environment.

How what starts? We need more babies, they’re going to incentivise having babies. I fail to see the issue. It’s a choice and if you don’t want to do it, you’ll be no worse off than you are now. I would be 101% again penalising women for not having children but this isn’t it.

It does support families because it gives them the extra cash towards their living expenses.

It’s an a ritual Nazi policy. It couldn’t be further from not terrible. Especially next to everything else they are up to.

I don’t have strong feelings for this policy but if I’m honest I don’t understand the strong feelings against.
Surely if it was only some sort of tax break against childcare it would be put as not caring about women, not caring about families, pushing women into work etc
surely this way families who have children in childcare see a difference to their income and families who have more casual childcare arrangements or work opposite shifts to their partner also benefit.

Honestly to me all the complaints seem quite hyperbolic.

And how is it against women who can’t have children? Surely this would be no different to child benefit in that regard and I don’t see anyone regularly saying that unfairly against childless people.

Also, I thought we were full? If so it makes no difference if the extras are born here or not. Do we have room or don’t we?

It makes you an Unwoman, and off you go to the colonies, as I recall.

Because if they really wanted to support women they'd put in better infrastructure to help women work such as affordable childcare that included better paid childcare workers (who are mostly women). They'd also make sure that child maintenance payments actually happened when women often and inevitably get left with the all responsibility.

Oh come on. Because they’re going to give tax breaks to people with kids, we’re morphing into Nazi Germany?!

Yet

But the extra cash will help towards nursery fees, no?

It’s awful because incentivising fertility is wrong at every level.

It’s a rhetoric which preceded the issues with abortion in America. The slipperiest of slippery slopes.

Oooh are we doing this??

Smash for Sweden 😀