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Return of women who were right about safeguarding

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RhannionKPSS · 04/10/2022 23:09

AIBU to think Mumsnet should allow women ( & men ) who were right about lack of safeguarding in certain places back on this site? ( if they wish to return) ?

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Quincythequince · 05/10/2022 14:05

AryaStarkWolf · 05/10/2022 13:05

He spoke up about Jimmy Saville back in the day and was banned from the BBC because of it

Oh my goodness.
I had no idea!
Massively gone up on my esteem.
Not cancelled though was he?!
Because he’s not female.

Rotten the bloody core, the lot of them.

FrancescaContini · 05/10/2022 14:21

Quincythequince · 05/10/2022 14:05

Oh my goodness.
I had no idea!
Massively gone up on my esteem.
Not cancelled though was he?!
Because he’s not female.

Rotten the bloody core, the lot of them.

Excellent clip. Yes, he says he was banned from BBC radio for a while for “being offensive” - he says this in a tone of voice that makes clear that the irony of this doesn’t escape him.

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 05/10/2022 14:27

happydappy2 · 05/10/2022 11:21

Never forget the NSPCC refused to come on here and have a web chat with Mothers because they support the practice of transitioning children. The fucking NSPCC....Every supposed Charity meant to be protecting children, has failed them. Hence Transgender Trend having to be set up. Girl Guides have rolled over and welcomed in men who feel like women-all safeguarding out the window.

Barnado's too.

prunesandporridge · 05/10/2022 14:29

The police turned up at KJK's door because she had been "untoward about paedophiles". They won't turn up for a burglary though.

HatThatWearsYou · 05/10/2022 14:38

prunesandporridge · 05/10/2022 13:43

This thread appears to have dropped off active convos.

It's funny that since it's such a busy thread.

The others in active are only 9, 6 and 4 pages long.

Strange isn't it Hmm

ComebackQueen · 05/10/2022 14:39

Has anyone mentioned Ricky Gervais yet? I thought his little skit on transgender ideology was hilariously accurate and, injected some much needed humour. The debate has become dark because of the TRAs.

Anyone man or female joining this debate is welcome, I follow ‘gays against groomers’ and they do amazing work safeguarding children and pointing out that trans ideology puts children at risk.

They object to the sexualisation of children under the LBGTQ banner.

Mermaids need to be shut down with quickness.

How many more paedos are we going to have to out before we are listened to?

AryaStarkWolf · 05/10/2022 14:45

ComebackQueen · 05/10/2022 14:39

Has anyone mentioned Ricky Gervais yet? I thought his little skit on transgender ideology was hilariously accurate and, injected some much needed humour. The debate has become dark because of the TRAs.

Anyone man or female joining this debate is welcome, I follow ‘gays against groomers’ and they do amazing work safeguarding children and pointing out that trans ideology puts children at risk.

They object to the sexualisation of children under the LBGTQ banner.

Mermaids need to be shut down with quickness.

How many more paedos are we going to have to out before we are listened to?

Did you see that interview with that Canadian School board guy talking about that "trans" teacher with the huge comedy tits? it was exactly like Rickys sketch come to life

twitter.com/yeayecaptain/status/1572681768783974402?s=20&t=tKOiQHkHc_36OsvlnMU_sg

Pixiedust1234 · 05/10/2022 14:50

ThrowingSomeCrumbs · 05/10/2022 09:54

Having managed to track down the basis of the presentation this man gave 11 years ago (as a Phd student), it was around, basically, providing services / support to pedophiles before they commit any offences in order to protect children, and giving it actual diagnostic criteria. This, in the long run, was about protecting children. B4U-ACT is an organisation that works to these aims. Not to encourage pedophilia but rather to stop pedophiles from actually acting on their.. urges (I can't think of a better word than that, though it doesn't seem enough).

I am all for less children being subjected to such hideousness behaviour. And allowing people to seek help before they act, is shown to reduce it.

You talk some shite.

"But while B4U-Act postures itself as a respectable advocacy group, much of what it advocates for is the destigmatization of pedophilia. Though the organization argues that destigmatization would empower those who are sexually attracted to children to seek support and therapy, its pedophile founder explicitly stated it had far more nefarious goals.

In 2009, founder Michael Melsheimer advised his fellow pedophiles that the new approach would be focused around garnering public sympathy by falsely claiming the intention was to prevent child sexual abuse by humanizing pedophiles. Screenshots of the exchange were taken where Melsheimer was interacting with “boylovers” on the pedophile forum Boy Chat."

ComebackQueen · 05/10/2022 14:53

AryaStarkWolf · 05/10/2022 14:45

Did you see that interview with that Canadian School board guy talking about that "trans" teacher with the huge comedy tits? it was exactly like Rickys sketch come to life

twitter.com/yeayecaptain/status/1572681768783974402?s=20&t=tKOiQHkHc_36OsvlnMU_sg

Wow, just wow!

Ladies, girls, allies, we need to mobilise and stop this lunacy!

If it’s this bad already, I shudder to think what the world will be like in twenty years.

I noticed since 2010 all of this has creeped up and been amplified and accelerated in the last five years.

RhannionKPSS · 05/10/2022 14:56

If any of you fantastic women are in Edinburgh tomorrow, you would be very welcome to join the rally at Scottish Parliament at 11am.
We have a great line up of speakers including Elaine Miller, Helen Joyce & Maya Forstater to name just three warrior women.

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ComebackQueen · 05/10/2022 14:56

Also, so very disappointed in some MN users posts, being an apologist for paedophilia doesn’t make you educated, cool nor woke, it makes you a morally reprehensible human being.

I am aware paedophiles have for centuries flooded the legal profession, educational and medical fields to indoctrinate and normalise perversions but some of us won’t be having that whilst we are around.

Look at how little jail time people get for accessing child pornography. In fact, the nasty odious MP Eric Joyce is still on Twitter and friends with Matthew Wright despite receiving a suspended sentence for his disgusting actions.

ComebackQueen · 05/10/2022 14:58

Aww we really need our sisters North of the border to fight this good fight.

i wish I were in Scotland as I’d travel there in a flash.

keep up the good work!

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 05/10/2022 15:00

NotBadConsidering · 05/10/2022 12:20

The most important thing everyone needs to note is that this is NOT AN ISOLATED INCIDENT.

Every concern raised by people opposed to trans ideology, self ID, and transitioning of children has come to pass.

Predators exploiting children’s charities ✅

Predators exploiting trans organisations (see WPATH in cahoots with child sex abuse fetishists for their ‘Eunuchs’ chapter) ✅

Predators developing a “woman” identity after conviction for crimes ✅

Male sex offenders in women’s prisons with resulting sexual assaults ✅

An increase in assaults on women in mixed sex changing areas ✅

Males taking opportunities from women in sport ✅

The erosion of safeguarding boundaries in schools ✅

Schools blindly teaching Queer Theory, historically steeped in paedophilia, to children in schools ✅

Schools and organisations like Mermaids ignoring safeguarding to transition children behind their parents’ backs ✅

The damage done to girls with binders, mastectomies and testosterone ✅

The increasing number of detransitioners who have no fertility or sexual function as adults from puberty blockers and hormone therapy ✅

The homophobia of re-writing gay and lesbian as “same gender-attracted” instead of same sex-attracted with coercion of lesbians into accepting males as partners ✅

And so on, and so on.

The vindication is slow, and yet still the supporters deny there’s a problem. What those in the dark should take away from this thread is this revelation about this Trustee of Mermaids is that there are many, many more occasions where the vindication has happened without fanfare and the vindication is still to come.

The Sex and Gender Board should be compulsory reading, open your eyes to everything that’s going on because it affects everyone.

All of this and I honestly cannot see how people can still support it.

ComebackQueen · 05/10/2022 15:04

Can someone tell me where that other forum is for discussing a concerning gender and sex is?

I really need to TERF out.

HatThatWearsYou · 05/10/2022 15:07

ComebackQueen · 05/10/2022 15:04

Can someone tell me where that other forum is for discussing a concerning gender and sex is?

I really need to TERF out.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights

AryaStarkWolf · 05/10/2022 15:10

RhannionKPSS · 05/10/2022 14:56

If any of you fantastic women are in Edinburgh tomorrow, you would be very welcome to join the rally at Scottish Parliament at 11am.
We have a great line up of speakers including Elaine Miller, Helen Joyce & Maya Forstater to name just three warrior women.

Unfortunately I'm in Ireland so we're even more captured here, we have an up hill struggle. You British ladies have been fantastic though in raising awareness world wide, you all should be very proud

ComebackQueen · 05/10/2022 15:13

HatThatWearsYou · 05/10/2022 15:07

You star!

Quincythequince · 05/10/2022 15:24

RhannionKPSS · 05/10/2022 14:56

If any of you fantastic women are in Edinburgh tomorrow, you would be very welcome to join the rally at Scottish Parliament at 11am.
We have a great line up of speakers including Elaine Miller, Helen Joyce & Maya Forstater to name just three warrior women.

Wonderful speakers!
Would love to have the chance to go, but it’s just not possible.
I hope it’s a fabulous day with plenty of fired up bellies ready to contribute.

Naunet · 05/10/2022 15:52

Sparklybutold · 05/10/2022 00:22

I've just had a quick look at the B4u-act, from what I can gather it isn't supporting paedophiles in terms of acting as a place for paedophiles to get there kicks but a place for them to get help? Am I missing something?

Nope, if you scratch below the surface, that’s not at all what they’re about. They’re about garnering sympathy for them, not stopping abuse.

reduxx.info/trustee-of-trans-youth-charity-resigns-after-pro-pedophile-revelations/

SantaCarlaCalifornia · 05/10/2022 16:26

I notice that there aren't too many trans ideology apologists on this thread.

Usually, if there's a trans thread they jump on ASAP to scream transphobia, what's different about this one I wonder?

I can only hope it's opening their eyes to what's happening and what FWR has been warning about for years.

I don't hold out much hope though, for some reason this subject makes people bury their heads one the sand just in case they read something they don't like but can't defend.

Knittingmonster · 05/10/2022 16:41

Yes there does seem to be a dearth of the usual ploppers. Same on the mermaids threads . Strange…

RhannionKPSS · 05/10/2022 18:40

AryaStarkWolf · 05/10/2022 15:10

Unfortunately I'm in Ireland so we're even more captured here, we have an up hill struggle. You British ladies have been fantastic though in raising awareness world wide, you all should be very proud

We will cheer for the women in Ireland. We stand beside you 🇮🇪
The rally will be filmed by For Women Scotland so it can be seen by those not able to be there in person.

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CraggyIslandTouristBoard · 05/10/2022 18:56

Knittingmonster · 05/10/2022 07:21

Err primark have announced that the women’s changing rooms are “for anyone who self identifies as a female”. So not single sex. Still unisex. But claiming they are single sex. Weaselly bastards.

Absolute fcuking disgrace 😤

Farmageddon · 05/10/2022 19:02

AryaStarkWolf · 05/10/2022 15:10

Unfortunately I'm in Ireland so we're even more captured here, we have an up hill struggle. You British ladies have been fantastic though in raising awareness world wide, you all should be very proud

I know, it's very disheartening to think how far we have to go to claw back some sense here. Self ID is already the law here, and the government and mainstream media don't seem to give a shit.

I'm also really grateful to Terf islanders for shining a light on this.

Helleofabore · 05/10/2022 20:06

Didn't I see a paper that basically said those males attending those 'helping paedophiles to NOT act' session ended up just acting anyway, or maybe even finding new ways from attending the sessions?

I thought I read somewhere that it was found to be all a lovely fallacy, except for the children who ended up sexually abused anyway. I could be wrong. I will go and see if I archived it anywhere. I remember reading it around the time that Allyn Walker was being discussed.