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AIBU?

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To have an argument about mil dressing my son girly?

219 replies

Aleeson · 03/10/2022 20:41

So me and my partner have a 2 yr old son and we are very blessed with grandparents on both ends who regularly spend time with our son, however there are some issues I’m having with my MIL.

Occasionally our son stays at grandparents house, we always pack a bag full of clothes and shoes to go with him for any occasion and there’s plenty of spares. My mil seems to ignore the bag of stuff we provide and constantly dresses him into her granddaughters clothes and SHOES or my sons clothes that were in her house and now are too small (I did request to donate them or give back to me so I can donate them)
What absolutely boiled my blood this time is that me and my partner were away for a few days because of work and we come back to our son dressed like a little girl and wore a jumper
2 sizes too small. Meanwhile she said to us she had a few of her friends come round and they had a good play in the garden (which is lovely) but
he was wearing a raincoat instead of a jacket we provided (it was quite cold in our area) and when we come home after a few hrs we realised our son has a fever of 39.4!!! And what annoys me is that because she does not dress him in weather appropriate or at least his clothes he gets sick and looks like his parents do not care about him at all! Or that we desperately wanted a girl and now trying to dress our son like one! I can’t imagine what her friends think of us, honestly it is quite embarrassing. My partner promised to sort it out with her as I’m tired of repeating the same thing about the clothes as she seems to totally ignore it! But he thinks I’m overreacting and he’s too little anyway to recognise he is wearing skirt over tights with flower pattern (I wish I was joking) but this gets me to the point that I feel like I would rather have my mum him when it’s needed all of the time because this is just humiliating both for my boy and me. AIBU to have an argument over that?

OP posts:
ecosystem · 03/10/2022 22:25

If the child was sent with NO cloths and MIL had to find some, fair enough. But this is not the case - he is sent with cloths. TBH, it's not that he's being dressed in 'girl's clothes' but rather MIL is dressing in cloths too small and not weather appropriate when he has his own clothes! It's flipping weird, not necessary and rude unless perhaps, she's got unresolved issues

Sprogonthetyne · 03/10/2022 22:25

Anyone who willingly takes care of someone else's 2yo for a few DAYS gets a lot of leeway in my book, that is a massive favour. Could it be that she doesn't want to send home a bag full of muddy/ painty cloths, so kept some of his cousins outgrown stuff for things like garden play? Some people are keen on keeping anything nice "for best".

PyongyangKipperbang · 03/10/2022 22:27

Its not about a child feeling bad (at aged 2, why would they?) its about the child being sent with appropriate clothing for the weather/situation and then being dressed in other clothes that do not fit either his body or the situation.

As for the gender thing....well if he chose flowery tights and skirts, that would be fine but he isnt. His GM is choosing them for him and he is too young to realise. Suggests to me that Gma wanted and planned for a grandaughter and will play Barbie Dress Up regardless....

I would stop letting him go there, no social life is worth that.

Pineappleflowers · 03/10/2022 22:27

victoriacrosshairs · 03/10/2022 20:53

He's 2. He's not going to be humiliated.

Maybe, but he can be made to feel uncomfortable in too-tight cloths and look ridiculous by a batty old lady who enjoys provoking her daughter in law.

(And photos live forever, and some villages do actually gossip.)

OP is providing weather-appropriate clothes that fit, yet MIL is choosing, over and over, to ignore them and dress him in too small too cold clothes and now the child is ill.

YANBU OP. I’d be fed up. If DH can’t sort this out, MIL doesn’t get unsupervised grandchild time.

LifeIsaRollerCoaster1 · 03/10/2022 22:28

I'd be mad too, you've packed appropriate clothing that fits why dress him in ill fitting girls clothing? I'd say if you can't dress him properly when you look after him you aren't suitable to take care of him.

Stravaig · 03/10/2022 22:31

Perhaps DS is choosing his own clothes, with gloriously creative results.

or

MIL is scared to use the clothes you provide in case they get stained or torn and you get angry about it. Has this ever ever happened, OP? Are you precious about what DS wears?

DS didn't have a fever because he wore the wrong coat. Everyone knows you only get a fever from having wet hair. Ok not really, but look up the medical science behind fevers.

Oliverfunyuns · 03/10/2022 22:31

She should be dressing him in his own clothes. She knows that she's going against OP's wishes, and it must be uncomfortable for him to wear clothes too small for him or not warm enough for the weather.

Some people might not care if their boy is dressed as a girl or vice versa, but if OP does, I think MIL should respect that. It's not as though she had none of his clothes to use and was making the best of a bad situation. She's doing this intentionally, for some reason, which is odd behaviour.

OnTheBrinkOfChange · 03/10/2022 22:32

rattlemehearties · 03/10/2022 20:55

Give her a good selection of his clothes that actually fit if you don't want this to happen!

I can't believe your comment about this being "humiliating"... why is it humiliating to dress "like a girl"? (Whatever that means... my DS wears pink and sequins and he's still a boy)

That's exactly what she did do! She gave her mother-in-law clothes for her son and the mother-in-law chose little girl clothes instead.

Emotionalsupportviper · 03/10/2022 22:33

My MIL somehow used to manage to buy very old-fashioned tops with sort of "bloomers" which were acceptable as boys' apparel probably in about 1756. I just used to thank her then pass them on.

When she first got them I did tell her that they weren't practical for an active toddler but she kept buying them and we just gave up for a quiet life.

She meant well.

Hollywolly1 · 03/10/2022 22:34

I only got halfway through your post and I'm wondering why do you leave your son there if you are not happy like wtf

Bobbysgirls · 03/10/2022 22:35

Looking for objective advice: MIL is overbearing I think? I have a reception and son, and last summer whilst living in an unsuitable house, I had a breakdown and began to not manage to do basic things, I split with my partner and found it hard. I also got covid and developed long covid at the same time as my mental health took a big dive. She offered to keep my son in his nursery even though it meant her committing to a drive each day four days per week which I was OK with if that’s what she wanted to do / I pay nursery. She would make comments on how to raise him, taking particular offence to my breastfeeding him. She asked me when he was nearly 3 to stop breastfeeding and she would take him for a week if I did but only if I did. I agreed thinking perhaps she was right but ultimately I continued to do it because he wasn’t ready. When she found out she was extremely upset and accused me of holding him back emotionally and treat in him like a baby, no nutritional benefit, only for my own needs, not letting him grow up and confusing him as she treats him like a big boy and im babying him which is making him confused etc, I didn’t react. She had offered to ‘take the load’ off my shoulders by doing a few minor doctors apps when I am working, which I was grateful for until I found myself saying to her I could now take him to his next one as I am starting to recover from long covid and gain some strength and energy back, she told me that she would be attending whether I was happy about it or not. She chose my sons school to ‘help’ and I found myself reporting to her on how well my son slept / ate and it felt like I was the babysitter and not his mum. Now I am getting back on my feet and piecing life back together she is aware I want my son with me overnight all week aside from schedule weds nights and EOW with dad. She suggested that I allow my son to sleep at hers Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday nights so I wouldn’t see my son from Tuesday morning until Friday night. I’d also lose my Saturday nights EOW because she said they’d have day time contact instead on their weekend. So essentially they want to take my son during the week because they don’t think I am capable of having my son ready on time. My son isn’t compliant with me as much as he is 100% compliant with his grandma. I don’t know why! My son and I are very close and he has voiced that he is happy with me and loves being with me more than anyone else and we have a very loving close fun bond and do lots of focussed on him activities which is easy for me as he is my only son. I have told her no. That I am not going to get into a routine and back on my feet if he isn’t with me. That I think many four year old children want to be with mum and struggle to separate, that it is normal to behave for others and not for mum. But yet she still puts pressure on me that we are to ‘review’ my ‘suggestion’ of him livin with me and not having school week with her and I have told her to park the idea that we would do anything like that as he lives with me, his mum. She often undermines me or doesn’t share things with me that would help me to get back on track. When I told her I had come up with a great reward system to tick off tasks in the morning she said that she had been doing stickers and stars since he was tiny! And I thought to myself she should have shared that knowing I was struggling? I also couldn’t find reasonably priced seamless socks and she knew this as I had told her plus I had even downloaded a pattern on Etsy! My son came home in seamless socks and not a word mentioned. I don’t speak to ex DH and so all communication runs through her because he has anxiety and works nights. But still. She is very nice to my face but I get the impression it’s false. She even told me that she wanted to provide all uniforms clean each drop off and I think it’s because she doesn’t think i am competent to even wash a school uniform. My son had a school place but as long covid can play havoc with my health she said she would do the school run and I had to decide upon where I was health wise now and not in the future so I agreed. It crept up, all these subtle undermining of my parenting. This morning my son was out of sorts and had a slightly higher temp and lethargic and so we were late going out the door. He began to fuss about his socks. I thought as timing is important, it would be better for us all to just carry him out in a pair of blue socks & ask grandma to just wipe his face as he began to get belligerent over it and I’d rather he was on time than late due to being fussy and if she can do it in two seconds am I being unreasonable to just ask her to do it if it saves time and tears? I am beginning to dread interacting with her as I know when I fail, she is right there chalking it up. My son is angelic there, in a perfect routine with her, sleeps wonderfully, eats what he is given and has no tantrums. When he is with me? He had tantrums, is non compliant at times, He does eat and sleep well but he certainly doesn’t scoot into bed as early as he does with her. I admin it has left me feeling like a failure. They think I am selfish keeping him with me when I’m not as established in routines as grandma is, and I should think about his best interests. Whilst I know school is vital and to be on time the same, isn’t living with your mum and having a solid grounding in your own home more important? I don’t know if I am being unreasonable in saying no, my son loves with me and that’s the end of it. Routines take time; I am getting better, I am not selfish for wanting my son to live with me surely, I am beginning to really question everything about my parenting. She disagrees with my emotional approach to showing emotions, talking about feelings and showing I’m not a ‘safe’ person by having cried on occasion and him seeing me do so. Or when I’ve been unwell, I have said to him that yes I am unwell. She said her mum cried when she was small and it terrified her, that mums should be strong and never never be anything other than safe and that means not showing emotions. She thinks I give him my problems but I haven’t a clue what she means? That I don’t stimulate him ( I do, we go out, we always read, do crafts, bake and yes iPad too) to not have accidents in front of him (I get dizzy and sluggish from long covid and sometimes fall over) and basically that I am not together enough to be a good mum - she hadn’t said this but it’s strongly implied. She thinks if I cannot regularly have my son complying with me and ready on the dot each day for school then we need to go back and think about her ideas again. I don’t know what to think - help!

Cantthinkofausername01 · 03/10/2022 22:37

Most people on this thread are nuts.

Op I would be pissed right off if someone dressed my son in girls clothes. I dont care what anyone say's, it's weird. If he grows up and decides he wants to wear skirts etc then let him crack on but at the age of 2 he can't make those decisions.

And it is humiliating. Just let your mum have him in future. Your mil sounds off her head

RobynNora · 03/10/2022 22:38

Yanbu to be annoyed they’re too small

You are however being really sexist. Clothes are not gendered. This is 2022 ffs.

worriedatthistime · 03/10/2022 22:40

Is she worried about him getting his clothes dirty if playing outside so uses old ones ?
Personally I wouldn't wait for my dh to speak if my mil would just ask her why myself and then involve dh depending on answer

ShamedBySiri · 03/10/2022 22:40

Could it be that OP's son is in fact a girl and this is why M-I-L dresses the son in girls clothes and why OP is so cross about it?

Likelookinginamirror · 03/10/2022 22:41

@Bobbysgirls - you need to start a separate thread, and put gaps between your sentences. Otherwise you’re going to get people being really mean about not reading a block of text. And maybe try and reduce it by half.

I’m sorry you’re going through this, and hope you find some help here…

ClaryFairchild · 03/10/2022 22:42

Wow, you have had some ludicrous replies. I'd have been upset if someone dressed my DSs as girls. If they kept on doing it they wouldn't get to care for my DSs, simple as that.

It has nothing to do with "catching gay" but about societal norms.

been and done it. · 03/10/2022 22:44

I'm an oldie on here..on the whole it's more entertaining than gransnet..so my opinion seems to be out of line but I completely agree with the OP..If I had found my ILs dressing my son in flowery tights and a skirt and skin tight too small tops etc. I would have had a blue fit. What a nonsense...the woman is off her trolley and yes I would be mortified if other people saw him too. Bagtshit crazy is often used on MN and it's pretty appropriate in this case. I certainly wouldn't have kept quiet about it.

LifeIsaRollerCoaster1 · 03/10/2022 22:45

RobynNora · 03/10/2022 22:38

Yanbu to be annoyed they’re too small

You are however being really sexist. Clothes are not gendered. This is 2022 ffs.

Do you dress your sons in pink dresses and put bows in their hair? I tend to dress my sons as boys, because they are boys. I had a girl first and as lovely as some of her outfits were (they really were cute some of the dresses) I didn't stick my sons in them as much as i wanted to use them again. That's weird.

Dou8hnuts · 03/10/2022 22:45

yaboreme · 03/10/2022 21:03

I don't think it's done in malice.

My mum has an ottoman with bits and bobs in, for just in case, which is literally every time we visit. Wet tops, muddy trousers etc.

My son recently came home in a leopard print top and some random trousers. Yes, he has his own backpack with all sorts in but I think part of the fun is raiding nannies ottoman and getting to go upstairs.

Im sure it's harmless. And in all honesty, do you really care about what anyone thinks?

My
mums the exact same. 11 grandkids 6 boys and five girls. Our kids go and find something that fits no matter what the colour, my youngest m4 has been known to request the pink sunsuit for paddling many times. And also when my mums had my niece at our house and she’s needed spares she’s gone home in whatever she chose from the boys wardrobes to wear, last time I think it was a pair of Spider-Man shorts and matching T-shirt with a pair of boxer shorts underneath as her clothes had been wet through playing in the water etc. I don’t see the harm in it, kids love to dress up.

ChampagneCamping · 03/10/2022 22:46

Over reaction on your part

Emotionalsupportviper · 03/10/2022 22:46

@Bobbysgirls

The paragraph is your friend.

goodnighthunny · 03/10/2022 22:47

Nobody gets a temperature from wearing unsuitable clothes. Children's clothes need to be comfortable and easy to play in. It doesn't matter what they look like if they're just playing. I used to dress my DD in my DS's old clothes when she was a toddler. I don't think anyone wanged on about it being humiliating for her. Ill-fitting shoes are a bad idea, though. On the whole, if you don't like the way someone's looking after your children, look after them yourself or pay someone who will do it the way you want it done.

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THisbackwithavengeance · 03/10/2022 22:47

I agree that it is ludicrous to dress him in girls clothes or too small clothes. If he had nothing else to wear or the OP couldn't afford new clothes then perhaps but otherwise no, there is no need.

You're going to have to put your foot down a bit more than you have been doing OP because your MIL is taking the piss.

Lovemelovemydoggie · 03/10/2022 22:47

I wouldn’t be happy either OP.