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To ask if you have stopped paying your TV Licence?

227 replies

GodDamnITBarbs · 03/10/2022 11:34

Basically that?
I understand a lot of people have just stopped paying.

OP posts:
x2boys · 03/10/2022 20:07

user16480478 · 03/10/2022 19:55

I'm surprised people have Netflix instead though as it is almost as expensive and shows mostly crap

In your opnion ,i would say the same about the BBC, but horse,s for courses etc ,not everyone likes the same thing.

saltofcelery · 03/10/2022 20:13

I haven't paid for a TV license for about 8 years, I declare I don't need it every couple of years. I don't watch live TV.

user16480478 · 03/10/2022 20:13

Netflix has very sadly gone downhill recently and I haven't been directed to anything, I search through, watch the first episode and then don't bother watching the rest for most things, I am the only one in my house that ever watches it, DH never does, I get the £10.99 one as the picture quality is a bit better. Apple TV is the best value of the streamers and best quality programming

Iwanttoholdyourham · 03/10/2022 20:14

Stopped paying years and years ago.

Occasionally someone will talk about something like Strictly, and I'll feel out of the loop (I don't watch live TV or iPlayer - damn, I miss that iPlayer loophole), but that's not enough to make me cough up.

Serious changes are required to make me subscribe (and thus start watching again)!

HeddaGarbled · 03/10/2022 20:17

since the govt started setting the agenda

I cannot support the bbc and it’s bloody woke agenda

Two posts on this page.

BBC upsetting both extremes, probably getting it just right 😀

Chicheguevara · 03/10/2022 20:31

I haven’t had a license for years. I watch catch up (not BBC) and use a streaming service. I don feel that I a missing out.

Lonelycrab · 03/10/2022 20:41

BBC upsetting both extremes, probably getting it just right

lol. There’s a lot of truth in that. But in a world of polarisation and tribal politics maybe there’s just no centre ground anymore 😕

VeryQuaintIrene · 03/10/2022 20:41

@AirFryerNinja thanks very much for that information - I didn't know it was possible to do that.

SavingsThreads · 03/10/2022 20:48

Atmywitsend29 · 03/10/2022 19:32

DH is worried that the licensing enforcement jackass will come round and see him watching top gear or something on Netflix through the window and he'll get a thousand pound fine cause how can he prove he's watching it on Netflix and not iPlayer.
And tbh I don't have an argument for that.

How about 'that's completely insane'?! They can't issue him a fine based on spying through a window 😂

Bovrilly · 03/10/2022 21:05

I doubt there would be much loss at all of they stopped acting like you need a licence to even so much as have a TV.

Well there are plenty of people on this thread admitting that they commit a criminal offence, even with the deterrent of a fine, so yes there would be a loss without detection. It's not a random decision, it has been costed both ways.

Isnt it funny how none of the other streaming services seem to have these issues

Not really, because they are set up in a way that means the services are pretty much inaccessible without payment. For various historical reasons the BBC is not in that position (yet). Hopefully it will be one day and they can save all that money on detection and spend it on programmes for the enjoyment of those who are prepared to pay their licence fee.

Cheeselog · 03/10/2022 21:06

user16480478 · 03/10/2022 19:55

I'm surprised people have Netflix instead though as it is almost as expensive and shows mostly crap

Not if you go halves on an account with a friend Wink
Netflix also has programming in lots of different languages, for those of us who speak more than English.

FacebookPhotos · 03/10/2022 21:12

I still pay but feel a bit daft about it. I watch live tv about once per fortnight. If I were using Disney or Netflix that little I'd cancel them, and they're half the price. But I suppose the live tv I watch is struggle to give up (mostly live sport or news).

scaredoff · 03/10/2022 21:13

HeddaGarbled · 03/10/2022 20:17

since the govt started setting the agenda

I cannot support the bbc and it’s bloody woke agenda

Two posts on this page.

BBC upsetting both extremes, probably getting it just right 😀

What's "extreme" about expecting that a public service broadcaster, funded by all the public, which claims independence from the government should actually be run that way?

That's not actually contradictory to having a "woke agenda" (although I personally find the kind of anti-woke paranoia that comes out with things like that ridiculous). It's perfectly possible for the BBC to be "woke" on various social issues while failing to hold the government to account on the things that matter electorally and exhibiting clear party political bias in political reporting.

cardibach · 03/10/2022 21:15

Adelant · 03/10/2022 19:05

I am but I justify it to myself that I never watch BBC content. Yes, I know that’s no excuse. But I’ve saved £1,300 over the past few years.

Over 8 years. It’s £159. And why do you think other people should pay for your entertainment? Selfish behaviour. If you don’t want to pay, don’t. But don’t use the service.

useruse · 03/10/2022 21:25

All TV is quite expensive nowadays, we pay about £100 a month for everything, it soon mounts up,

MinervaTerrathorn · 03/10/2022 21:56

cardibach · 03/10/2022 21:15

Over 8 years. It’s £159. And why do you think other people should pay for your entertainment? Selfish behaviour. If you don’t want to pay, don’t. But don’t use the service.

I know they insist on the fee for any live channels (which is ridiculous), but other people are not paying for your entertainment if you don't watch the BBC, paid advertising is.

CaptainBarbosa · 03/10/2022 22:06

user16480478 · 03/10/2022 20:13

Netflix has very sadly gone downhill recently and I haven't been directed to anything, I search through, watch the first episode and then don't bother watching the rest for most things, I am the only one in my house that ever watches it, DH never does, I get the £10.99 one as the picture quality is a bit better. Apple TV is the best value of the streamers and best quality programming

I'm clearly not fussy enough, I pay £6 for my Netflix account one user only and I always find random crap on there to watch if I'm in the mood. I watched a documentary on Hitler yesterday 🤣

I also have Prime (more.for buying crap online than its streaming service) but there is the odd programme on there, I rather like Elementary.

Also my mother pays for Disney+ annually as a gift to all the grandchildren so both me and my brother can access it for the kids, we have our own little picture/account, for her respective grandchildren, but we obviously watch stuff on it too 🤣

So all in I pay £14 a month and there's always something to watch and no TV license needed.

Florenz · 03/10/2022 22:08

The BBC doesn't make good TV. So much stuff they make serves no purpose other than filling time in the schedule. They'd be better off abandoning the linear model and just investing time and money in a few extremely high quality shows.

useruse · 03/10/2022 22:18

Some of the BBC stuff is good, I'm enjoying the series with David Tennant which I watched tonight and another series that was on at nine o'clock yesterday

RubyTrees · 03/10/2022 22:53

Haven't watched live TV or used Iplayer since 2014 when I didn't renew our licence. The monthly threatening letters eventually stopped coming last year.

We've had one "officer" turn up one day at the beginning of the 1st lockdown and was banging on the door at 8am - unsurprisingly I didn't feel like having a conversation with a stranger while Covid was raging. He left a red letter notice promising to return (he never did).

I'm very glad we don't support the BBC when they create programs like this

Getoff · 03/10/2022 23:16

You don't need a tv license to listen to the radio and can have live news on in a variety of ways, for example sky news/aj jazeera live via youtube.

You do need a TV licence to watch a live stream of Sky News or Al Jazeera on YouTube.

www.tvlicensing.co.uk/faqs/FAQ33

Getoff · 03/10/2022 23:21

ivykaty44 · 03/10/2022 12:36

I haven’t had a tv for 12/13 years so don’t need a tv licence

Not having a TV doesn't mean you don't need a license. If you have computer, tablet or phone screens in your house, you need to not watch any live streaming of broadcast material on those.

Saracen · 03/10/2022 23:42

It's a lot of money. I don't think I've ever had one, not for at least 20 years anyway.

Adelant · 04/10/2022 06:10

MinervaTerrathorn · 03/10/2022 21:56

I know they insist on the fee for any live channels (which is ridiculous), but other people are not paying for your entertainment if you don't watch the BBC, paid advertising is.

Agreed, I just don’t watch BBC channels/iPlayer. I can’t remember the last time I did.

FatOaf · 04/10/2022 06:42

I watch about 6 hours a week on the iPlayer (football and a few quizzes) and listen to Radio4 for several short periods each day (until they interview a politician, at which point it is switched off). I also watch a lot of old BBC4 documentaries on Youtube. So I'm quite happy to pay the licence. No intention of subscribing to Netflix or Amazon, and refuse to watch/listen to adverts, so it's a pretty cheap option to get what I want.

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