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To ask if you have stopped paying your TV Licence?

227 replies

GodDamnITBarbs · 03/10/2022 11:34

Basically that?
I understand a lot of people have just stopped paying.

OP posts:
Cheeselog · 03/10/2022 19:28

ZooTropia · 03/10/2022 19:04

Hi @EmmaH2022 could you tell me like a 5 year old exactly what to do about cancelling and getting a form please?
Also, what am I not allowed to do/watch after this??

www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/topics/telling-us-you-dont-need-a-tv-licence
You fill out this form on the tv licence website. It’s quite self explanatory and tells you what you can’t watch.

Trp · 03/10/2022 19:28

What about the news?

I read it in online newspapers, apps, blogs also listen to various morning podcast briefings.

What about when the queen died and the funeral - how did people watch it?

I knew she died as it was literally everywhere but I had no interest in watching it.

What about live football, Olympics etc?

The sports I am interested in I watch on catchup on espn player, I don't need to see it live because of time difference, most are played in America and I don't mind watching it after the fact.

Bovrilly · 03/10/2022 19:29

This is a daft argument. The amount of people being caught watching it without paying has been steadily declining. Even if all 50,000 people who had been caught last year paid £1000 its nowhere near what they have spent on trying to catch people.

I don't think you understand - detection isn't supposed to pay for itself in that way, it's there because it costs less than the loss if there were no detection.

SomeSquirrelsAreBlack · 03/10/2022 19:29

If they catch you watching TV without a licence, cant you be sent to prison?

Bovrilly · 03/10/2022 19:31

SomeSquirrelsAreBlack · 03/10/2022 19:29

If they catch you watching TV without a licence, cant you be sent to prison?

No, they can fine you. You can eventually be sent to prison for not paying a court ordered fine, but this hardly ever happens (0 prison sentences in the last two years).

Atmywitsend29 · 03/10/2022 19:32

DH is worried that the licensing enforcement jackass will come round and see him watching top gear or something on Netflix through the window and he'll get a thousand pound fine cause how can he prove he's watching it on Netflix and not iPlayer.
And tbh I don't have an argument for that.

Adelant · 03/10/2022 19:33

Atmywitsend29 · 03/10/2022 19:32

DH is worried that the licensing enforcement jackass will come round and see him watching top gear or something on Netflix through the window and he'll get a thousand pound fine cause how can he prove he's watching it on Netflix and not iPlayer.
And tbh I don't have an argument for that.

You invite the enforcers in and show them your set up.

Madness to pay for a TV license if you only watch Netflix.

Jackienory · 03/10/2022 19:35

We have cancelled them all apart from the BBC and altho I only watch it on iPlayer it’s still the BBC and production costs have to met somehow. Personally I think the BBC is worth the fee, in fact The Repair Shop is worth it on its own, as most of what they broadcast is good quality stuff altho there are certain areas , like that idiot Gary Lineker, that could be improved but I’d rather not see it privatised. Just my opinion.

user16480478 · 03/10/2022 19:36

They can't do anything until 2027 when the contract ends so I guess it will change then

Lonelycrab · 03/10/2022 19:36

Stopped paying a few years back and watch nothing from them now. I used to mainly like news related stuff but since the govt started setting the agenda, sadly it has turned crap. It’s a real shame that they fucked up yet another great institution with their ideology. But hey that’s standard these days.

Khakijane · 03/10/2022 19:38

Nope I got rid of the licence ages ago, I cannot support the bbc and it’s bloody woke agenda. I also don’t like their obsession with drag which I find misogynistic and wholly offensive to women.

I don’t think they are worth the money and I’m glad I’m not paying another penny to them.

x2boys · 03/10/2022 19:38

Atmywitsend29 · 03/10/2022 19:32

DH is worried that the licensing enforcement jackass will come round and see him watching top gear or something on Netflix through the window and he'll get a thousand pound fine cause how can he prove he's watching it on Netflix and not iPlayer.
And tbh I don't have an argument for that.

The onus is on them to prove he is watching live TV, which is why it's becoming increasingly more ridiculous.

Liskee · 03/10/2022 19:40

I mostly stream tv but listen to bbc radio stations and watch iPlayer so yes I do pay my TV licence.

x2boys · 03/10/2022 19:40

Adelant · 03/10/2022 19:33

You invite the enforcers in and show them your set up.

Madness to pay for a TV license if you only watch Netflix.

No you just don't engage they have to prove you are watching live TV without a licence and these days it's increasingly impossible to do so .

x2boys · 03/10/2022 19:41

Atmywitsend29 · 03/10/2022 19:32

DH is worried that the licensing enforcement jackass will come round and see him watching top gear or something on Netflix through the window and he'll get a thousand pound fine cause how can he prove he's watching it on Netflix and not iPlayer.
And tbh I don't have an argument for that.

How can they process he's watching it on I player?
They can't.
, so no fine.

QueenCamilla · 03/10/2022 19:48

I haven't paid for a few years. Reason being, I don't own a TV and don't watch any TV programs. I do a movie or a box set once in a blue moon, which I buy.

Believe it or not, I've raised a child in this environment 😂
He's a total gamer now though, I'm not anti-screens

Beees · 03/10/2022 19:51

I don't think you understand - detection isn't supposed to pay for itself in that way, it's there because it costs less than the loss if there were no detection.

I doubt there would be much loss at all of they stopped acting like you need a licence to even so much as have a TV. Isnt it funny how none of the other streaming services seem to have these issues and that everyone but the BBC doesnt feel the need to act like anyone not using them is automatically in the wrong?

TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 03/10/2022 19:54

I'm thinking of halving my payment and then only watching through squinty eyes.

I feel that's a balanced 'view'

user16480478 · 03/10/2022 19:55

I'm surprised people have Netflix instead though as it is almost as expensive and shows mostly crap

MinervaTerrathorn · 03/10/2022 19:56

No, I don't pay for services I don't use. I paid it for a year out of fear, we were watching a programme once a week at the time. The price is not good value at all.

MinervaTerrathorn · 03/10/2022 19:59

user16480478 · 03/10/2022 19:55

I'm surprised people have Netflix instead though as it is almost as expensive and shows mostly crap

Not shared between households.

LaughingCat · 03/10/2022 19:59

I pay. Rarely watch it but I think it’s important to have an independent broadcaster and some of the shows are great.

Cillery · 03/10/2022 20:02

We pay it because the costs have to be met somehow and the BBC doesn’t advertise. Mind you I could do with the BBC being politically neutral but that is hoping

Beees · 03/10/2022 20:02

user16480478 · 03/10/2022 19:55

I'm surprised people have Netflix instead though as it is almost as expensive and shows mostly crap

I pay £6.99 a month for netflix a TV licence would cost me £13.25 or £26.50 depending on which month it was according to the TV licence page when paying by direct debit.

Pilipalapal · 03/10/2022 20:07

user16480478 · 03/10/2022 19:55

I'm surprised people have Netflix instead though as it is almost as expensive and shows mostly crap

There’s a lot of good content on Netflix, but it’s algorithms are a bit overzealous in directing you towards similar content to that you’ve previously watched.

You’re probably being directed towards ‘crap’ based on your (or your household’s) viewing habits.