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To blame Tory/Brexit voters for this shitshow

155 replies

Kendodd · 28/09/2022 15:54

They "knew what they voted for".

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Grandeur · 28/09/2022 16:56

What does Brexit have to do with it?

nancydroo · 28/09/2022 16:58

Don't forget to blame the global pandemic where millions of people died

PeekAtYou · 28/09/2022 16:59

Brexit - no but Tory party members who voted for Truss, yes.

PersonaNonGarter · 28/09/2022 17:03

I don’t think this is the correct analysis. Not least because Bojo (Brexit Guy) just left and Liz Truss voted Remain.

x2boys · 28/09/2022 17:04

Why not just post on one of the many, many other tedious threads ?

midgetastic · 28/09/2022 17:07

Because I am getting impatient for the sunny uplands and it seems most respected economies are doing much better than us

wackamole · 28/09/2022 17:14

Conservative party member who voted for Truss, sure, I guess - although there were at least as many problems with Sunak, including that he kept his US green card active for 15 years after leaving the USA (hint: it's not legally active beyond 2 years, and that only in very special circumstances) and lied about it, and that his family business propped up Putin and his illegal war crimes in Ukraine long after everyine else in the UK pulled out and respected sanctions.

People who voted for Brexit got exactly what they wanted; now we will see if the UK, or rather England (and possibly England + Wales) can be self-sufficient on their own. No one thought there would not be a long period of pain and adjustment for all or parts of the UK to exist without any international links, so here we are and we'll see how it goes.

Pixiedust1234 · 28/09/2022 17:16

So nothing to do with a global pandemic or Russia invading a European country either then?

waves to Russian bot

scatterolight · 28/09/2022 17:19

This shitshow is down to the ridiculous economy-destroying Covid policy and the virtue signalling over the Ukraine. Both of which were and are supported by pretty much all of our hopelessly stupid policitians. Where did you stand on those OP? Is the sacrifice worth it now?

KikoLemons · 28/09/2022 17:28

Or maybe stop blaming - it achieves nothing. Instead look at what you can do to make things better.
Use your vote, volunteer, donate money/time/skills if you can, learn what you can about how and why things happen, (it's not ALL down to those two factors - how can it be?). Or continue posting trite comments on MN... because that'll help.

Userg1234 · 28/09/2022 17:33

Wow your memory is selective...remember covid d and loads of eu immigrants leaving during it despite being able to stay with no real change to their lived except having to register as forgein nationals (as brits living in the eu had to) leading to shortage of employees and supply chain problems. And the UK government being one of the few that ensured wages were paid...
And you might non have noticed that Russia has cut off gas to mainland Europe and they are now having to compete with the UK and others to buy gas and this has lead to inflation

JesusMaryAndJosephAndTheWeeDon · 28/09/2022 17:36

wackamole · 28/09/2022 17:14

Conservative party member who voted for Truss, sure, I guess - although there were at least as many problems with Sunak, including that he kept his US green card active for 15 years after leaving the USA (hint: it's not legally active beyond 2 years, and that only in very special circumstances) and lied about it, and that his family business propped up Putin and his illegal war crimes in Ukraine long after everyine else in the UK pulled out and respected sanctions.

People who voted for Brexit got exactly what they wanted; now we will see if the UK, or rather England (and possibly England + Wales) can be self-sufficient on their own. No one thought there would not be a long period of pain and adjustment for all or parts of the UK to exist without any international links, so here we are and we'll see how it goes.

No one thought there would be a long period of pain and adjustment? 😂

That is exactly what remainers were warning about!

A number of brexiteers also acknowledged that there would be pain and hardship but people only wanted to hear about the sunlit uplands no matter how unrealistic.

PeekabooAtTheZoo · 28/09/2022 17:39

They're not a homogenous group and they're not the same people. Plenty of Labour voters voted Leave as well. That's why Corbyn was shit scared of taking a stand and calling themselves the Remain party. Conflating Brexiteers with Conservatives muddies the waters and "Others" people and keeps us all squabbling instead of looking at the systemic problems we need to address to stop these bozos from breaking anything else.
Let it go.
Look at how the system is set up so the same people make big decisions regardless of who is the "face" in power or who you vote for. Look internationally at how things aren't working in other countries who didn't vote leave. Look at how the US property market is doing right now.
The problems are big-picture stuff. Really big picture. Like those big pictures that only fit in massive art galleries.
I feel like I need to preface all the rest of this with which way I vote to avoid being typecast, but I'm not going to in this instance. Make of it what you will.

PeekabooAtTheZoo · 28/09/2022 17:40

JesusMaryAndJosephAndTheWeeDon · 28/09/2022 17:36

No one thought there would be a long period of pain and adjustment? 😂

That is exactly what remainers were warning about!

A number of brexiteers also acknowledged that there would be pain and hardship but people only wanted to hear about the sunlit uplands no matter how unrealistic.

You said: No one thought there would be a long period of pain and adjustment? 😂
In the post you quoted: No one thought there would NOT be a long period of pain and adjustment
HTH

Suetwo · 28/09/2022 17:42

Pixiedust1234 · 28/09/2022 17:16

So nothing to do with a global pandemic or Russia invading a European country either then?

waves to Russian bot

Exactly. If you want to see REAL social chaos and economic misery, give Corbyn and his brother a chance to run the country. After five years we'd be in economic meltdown. After ten, the UK would be a hellhole.

Grandeur · 28/09/2022 17:43

Suetwo · 28/09/2022 17:42

Exactly. If you want to see REAL social chaos and economic misery, give Corbyn and his brother a chance to run the country. After five years we'd be in economic meltdown. After ten, the UK would be a hellhole.

Aren't we in economic meltdown now?

PerkingFaintly · 28/09/2022 17:44

Ooh, scatterolight, haven't seen you for ages.

How do you feel the Ukraine invasion is going, by the way? Did Putin judge that one right?

Trinity65 · 28/09/2022 18:04

x2boys · 28/09/2022 17:04

Why not just post on one of the many, many other tedious threads ?

This ^

PersonaNonGarter · 28/09/2022 18:12

I cannot understand how a war and a pandemic have passed you by, OP.

The world is in economic choppy waters. Yes, the Eurozone too. Germany is already in actual recession. And so on and on

FrippEnos · 28/09/2022 18:21

And yet another thread that should be in the section that was made for it but MN won't do anything about it.

HesterAndPearlInBrightSunshine · 28/09/2022 18:27

And yet another thread that should be in the section that was made for it but MN won't do anything about it.

No because MN is not an instrument of state censorship. This isn't Russia. People are unhappy, this is a popular topic, why would MN hide these threads away from traffic?

FrippEnos · 28/09/2022 18:31

HesterAndPearlInBrightSunshine · 28/09/2022 18:27

And yet another thread that should be in the section that was made for it but MN won't do anything about it.

No because MN is not an instrument of state censorship. This isn't Russia. People are unhappy, this is a popular topic, why would MN hide these threads away from traffic?

My god that a missive leap.
And no they are not that popular, its the same posters that regurgitate the same things over and over again.

cinnabongene · 28/09/2022 18:34

Oh blah sodding blah! This is so boring. I’ve always voted Conservative but I certainly didn’t vote for the collapse of the economy - who would! This is such a stupid and ill informed accusation. Grow up.

MarshaMelrose · 28/09/2022 18:34

Why Brexit, op?

candycaneframe · 28/09/2022 18:35

Grandeur · 28/09/2022 16:56

What does Brexit have to do with it?

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